Neoriceisgood
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I like it.
Super Smash Bros. for 3DS & Wii U Thread 9: F5 F5 F5 F5 F5 F5
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I like it.
I like it.
That was fast. Great as always!
Storm Kyleis
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The hat looks a bit off, but I like it.
I'm perfectly fine with palette swaps, we can't expect every character to have a full-fledged alt.
Edit: on a second thought, removing the hat would make him a smaller target.
I'm perfectly fine with palette swaps, we can't expect every character to have a full-fledged alt.
Edit: on a second thought, removing the hat would make him a smaller target.
DICKS AHOY
Banned
They bothered to model some hair under Mario's hat in Brawl just for that one taunt of his. Don't think it'd be that weird to model some more hair under Link's cap for an alternate-costume you'd see for more than a few seconds.
Neoriceisgood
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I'm just happy at the prospect of a larger number of palette choices & more distinct variations.
Only a small handful of characters qualifies for true alt costumes anyway, so I much prefer this method if it means we can expect more characters to get fun color swaps.
Only a small handful of characters qualifies for true alt costumes anyway, so I much prefer this method if it means we can expect more characters to get fun color swaps.
Gorestrafe
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Yeah, looks terrible (at least remove the hat!). I'm not ready to give up on each character getting at least one alternate costume, but this doesn't instill confidence...
I missed the part where Snake was a Nintendo character.
Not saying he's not in, but using Ness is a shitty example. He is owned by Nintendo and has been here since the first game.
LonelyGreyWolf
Banned
Neat.
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Pic of the day. Here's Link in an outfit based on his ordinary clothes in Skyward Sword! The art style looks a little different, but the actual clothing model is still his usual tunic.
Should've been without the hat!
Good point. Maybe it's just lack of time at this point and the team is trying to get everything done.
Burning Justice
the superior princess
Well... no. A palette swap is where all instances of a certain color are replaced with another color, e.g. in Super Mario Bros., how Luigi's sprite was just Mario's with all instances of red replaced with white and all instances of brown replaced with green. Since you're not replacing all instances of one color with another, Wireframe Mac isn't a palette swap. It's a recolor--it doesn't change Little Mac's character model at all. But it's not a palette swap.
Hopefully, we can expect a few model tweaks if they get the time during the last few months of the Wii U version's development.
Neat.
EDIT:
Pic of the day. Here's Link in an outfit based on his ordinary clothes in Skyward Sword! The art style looks a little different, but the actual clothing model is still his usual tunic.
link looks horrible in comparison with skyward sword link. What the f*ck sakurai!? (just my opinion
)edit: i really cant believe how bad that looks, wow
Save 'N Quit
Banned
Someone phone me in when they decided to give him a scarf.
SpacePirate Ridley
Member
I like the idea, but not the execution. It really looks cheap, like shitty "modders" doing horrible retextures so it seems another character type of cheap.
It's really given me some serious early Brawl Vault flashbacks. So many Fierce Deity textures...
Neat.
EDIT:
Pic of the day. Here's Link in an outfit based on his ordinary clothes in Skyward Sword! The art style looks a little different, but the actual clothing model is still his usual tunic.
Too bad it couldn't fix his face.
So then... neither is this?
ErrorMacro
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It's a bit disappointing, because it could have been done as an alternate costume instead of a simple recolor of his main tunic. But still, better to have recolors than have nothing at all.
Neoriceisgood
Member
Today's alt should've had the smash 4 face with Link's SS lips.
The worst of both worlds XD.
Lets add ALBW's eyebrows to the mix.
The beak from N64 Adult Link would also be a worthy addition.
Geminosity
Member
Confirrrrrrrrrrrrrmmmeeddddd
Yay! Lots of SS Zelda love :3
This does give me some hope for a skyward sword alt, but she'd really need an alt model rather than just a retexture
It's gonna be one heck of a long playthrough stream XD
You could probably link it here as I'm sure there's a few Xenoblade fans who'd probably enjoy watching someone else experience it for the first time :3
peanutbutterlatte
Member
I agree with those who say it looks completely amateur. A shame since they've gone to the extra effort with WFT/Villager.
Burning Justice
the superior princess
Nope, it isn't. Lot of people here are misusing the term "palette swap".
BassForever
Member
So Toon Link getting an palette swap based upon his pjs is all but confirmed ya?
Ah ok. I'm not up to scratch on these terms.
Anyway I should say that I quite like it.
Noo noo...The hero's new clothes!
People use palette swap because that was the term commonly used for recolours back in the day (including fighting games). People are aware technically it is a texture swap but the term palette swap helps to emphasise the focus on colours.
Green Mamba
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Eeehhh.... not a fan.
PadWarrior
Member
That's nice alt.
You know they've done this before right e.g. Captain Blood Falcon and OoT Ganondorf over TP Ganondorf.
Beelzebufo
Banned
It would look perfectly fine if it wasn't for the hat, but the hats there so it doesn't look great. Not as terrible as people are making it out to be though.
Glass Rebel
Member
I really wish they'd put more effort into the alternate costumes. Samus could have easily done with some custom suits.
I don't get the hat beef. The whole outfit needs to change to look like the original outfit. The hat is just one factor. You also have his strap, wrist guards, sleeves etc that need to be changed/removed.
It's stylised take on his tunic look rather than his SS starting outfit outright and the hat is part of his tunic look.
It's stylised take on his tunic look rather than his SS starting outfit outright and the hat is part of his tunic look.
Burning Justice
the superior princess
Is everyone aware? Seems to me like a good number of people are using the term just because other people do. But a lot of people using it doesn't change the fact that it's wrong. I'm guessing you already know this, but the term "palette swap" was originally used because, as a memory-saving technique, developers often reused the same sprites for different characters/objects, and simply swapped the sprite's color palette for a different one without doing anything else. But in this case, they're doing more than just swapping the color palette. So the term "palette swap" doesn't really make sense here. There are plenty of other terms that do.
That said, I don't really care enough to argue any further about this, so I'll stop here. I'm just saying, it's wrong.
Beelzebufo
Banned
Eh, that hats way more obvious than all of that, and it's just a dull beige color. Not exactly pleasing to the eye.
Considering the Phazon Suit actually is just a palette swap of the Varia suit, they really should put it in. But as for the others, while full Light / Dark suit models would be brilliant, even some small alterations like shrinking the Fusion recolour's shoulderpads would go a long way. I wonder how likely it would be for some if the time in between the 3DS and Wii U releases to be used for implementing full models for some of these alts? Most of the asset creation should have been done by now, right?
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