Console only gamers, I'd guess. At least I can't imagine any PC gamer who'd prefer 30fps.
First impressions of The Last of Us: Remastered (Game Informer)
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Console only gamers, I'd guess. At least I can't imagine any PC gamer who'd prefer 30fps.
Bluekaveli
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I'm going to cancel my pre order. Financial reasons since I am not playing video games much right now.
I really do pray that posters that think about pulling that think about what they are about to post. It's prime potential post history serving when they post about other games with similar performances.
Those screenshots... it doesn't look quite impressive as I tought it would be since it's supposed to be a remastered version of a PS exclusive by Naughty Dog on PS4. Maybe because I was expecting graphics to look almost like the Uncharted 4 trailer. This only looks crisper and that's it, not much difference over the PS3 version. I'm sure it will look 99% better on screen with those FPS additions and stuff tough. 
It's usually the opposite. low FPS judder definitely can make some people sick.
I know severla people who moved to playing FPS games on PC and not consoles because the low FOV combined with the terrible frame rate on consoles meant they would get sick after a few minutes of playing.
On PC with a much wider FOV (85+) and 60 FPS they could actually enjoy the game without getting sick or wiht only minor motion sickeness after hours of playing.
Dragonborn
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If it's like TR or Infamous, it'll be more than fine for me (FPS wise). Locked 60 would be amazing, but it's not a total dealbreaker.
I think maybe that's why they waited so long. At the end of the day, it's still a PS3 game. There's only so much they can do to improve and optimize it.
Those screenshots... it doesn't look quite impressive as I tought it would be since it's supposed to be a remastered version of a PS exclusive by Naughty Dog on PS4. Maybe because I was expecting graphics to look almost like the Uncharted 4 trailer. This only looks crisper and that's it, not much difference over the PS3 version. I'm sure it will look 99% better on screen with those FPS additions and stuff tough.
I think maybe that's why they waited so long. At the end of the day, it's still a PS3 game. There's only so much they can do to improve and optimize it.
AuthenticM
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Are we getting a new trophy set or is it the same ?
TheLostBigBoss
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Those screenshots... it doesn't look quite impressive as I tought it would be since it's supposed to be a remastered version of a PS exclusive by Naughty Dog on PS4. Maybe because I was expecting graphics to look almost like the Uncharted 4 trailer. This only looks crisper and that's it, not much difference over the PS3 version. I'm sure it will look 99% better on screen with those FPS additions and stuff tough.
Yea, with that completely unrealistic expectation I could see why you would be disappointed.
ethomaz
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Saberus
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Those screenshots... it doesn't look quite impressive as I tought it would be since it's supposed to be a remastered version of a PS exclusive by Naughty Dog on PS4. Maybe because I was expecting graphics to look almost like the Uncharted 4 trailer. This only looks crisper and that's it, not much difference over the PS3 version. I'm sure it will look 99% better on screen with those FPS additions and stuff tough.
Wholly fuck? Really? UC4?
The thread that keeps on giving
Same trophies I would assume. Or do you mean shared? Not a shared list.
Digital-Hero
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How is this beneficial when you have to flip your controller around to see this? All the other changes are nice.
Canis lupus
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ROFL, were you seriously expecting that? It's called Remaster and not a Remake for a reason, it isn't built up from the ground and tailored with the console specs in mind like UC4.
joecanada
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"you're a horrible person and you should die". Basic theme this thread is currently riding....thread is basically just stealth trolls coming out of the woodwork at this point. OP was good though.
Turn up the brightness and you can see it reflecting on your TV screen!
lukeskymac
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Are we really complaining about being given options?
boredofcanada
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Does it look as good as the TR remaster? If so, that's good enough for me.
Decoding normally, but displaying every other frame.
I've never seen so many complaints over an option.
Shouldn't you want this to be there? People can instantly switch between 30 FPS and 60 FPS to really see the differences on their big screen TVs. You'll rarely see games like this running at 60 FPS on consoles. Those who aren't used to playing many 60 FPS games are going to be shocked if they toggle the options and see how fluid 60 FPS compared to 30 FPS. They'll most likely want more AAA games to look like that.
I'm not so sure about that. I can't imagine anyone who goes to the settings and won't even think about trying it out eventually. But even if this was the case, 60 FPS is the default settings, so I don't understand why people are upset over this option.
Shouldn't you want this to be there? People can instantly switch between 30 FPS and 60 FPS to really see the differences on their big screen TVs. You'll rarely see games like this running at 60 FPS on consoles. Those who aren't used to playing many 60 FPS games are going to be shocked if they toggle the options and see how fluid 60 FPS compared to 30 FPS. They'll most likely want more AAA games to look like that.
I'm not so sure about that. I can't imagine anyone who goes to the settings and won't even think about trying it out eventually. But even if this was the case, 60 FPS is the default settings, so I don't understand why people are upset over this option.
Most people won't even care to switch or even check it out.
Lord Error
Insane For Sony
Sure, I agree, it should feel better to the player. But everything I've experienced is that super smooth framerate makes people who watch feel bad very quickly, although it could also be the fact that games with high framerate sort of invite you to fly all over the place and swoosh the camera around quicker. I have yet to see the (more or less locked) 30FPS game where you kind of go around slower and move camera at a bit slower pace have that effect on anyone.
Dragonborn
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You don't have to flip the controller around. If the lights are off, it's pretty easy to tell what color it is. I don't know, I like the sort of atmosphere it creates, helps you get more immersed, but I can see how it'd annoy some people.
And those people won't be affect in any way, so what's the issue?
While I do agree with this sentiment, I have to say that I wish more games gave the option, especially on PC.
Having the option to lock a game at 30 with the right frame time instead of using terrible solutions like locking it with half refresh rate vsync would be great for people who can't achieve locked 60fps at a game, be it for hardware reasons or Ubisoft reasons.
NullPointer
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Not really. ND's lead programmer promised a constant 60fps.
But, looking further over the thread it looks like that 30fps option is there because of personal preference and not unstable framerate, so it seems like that promise is still being kept. Let the good times roll.
The default is 60 fps.
Anytime i read 30fps, my jaw automatically opens itself, and undigested food starts trickling down like tears.
Lord Error
Insane For Sony
Also, another thing where the 30FPS lock works wonders is if you want to play remote on Vita. It made a world of difference in that scenario for KZ:SF, Infamous and would have even for TR
E if it had it.
Remote Play works at 30FPS only, but does a terrible job of discarding frames correctly on games that run at above 30.
E if it had it.Remote Play works at 30FPS only, but does a terrible job of discarding frames correctly on games that run at above 30.
Exactly? I'm saying very few people will care to switch to 30 to see the difference.
This. Some crows will be eaten when ND gives us the first technical real time 30vs60 comparison in a
console
Mario Kart drops ONE frame (or rather, doubles it) once every 2 seconds and folks made a thing of that.
Expect a lot of heat if TLOU isn't locked.
what has that got to do with anything remotely.
most games that run at 30 fps are more awesome at 60fps.
KINGofCRA5H
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Talk about beating a dead horse. We have confirmation direct from the devs and people still have to question it?
Also, another thing where the 30FPS lock works wonders is if you want to play remote on Vita. It made a world of difference in that scenario for KZ:SF, Infamous and even TR
Really? Even though the Vita runs at 30 anyway, having the game lock it to 30 is better? Interesting.
I guess that's related to what I just said then, having the devs lock it at 30 will result in a better frame time than other half assed ways to lock a game at 30.
Look at the bright side: since it's Naughty Dog, they're questioning it even with dev confirmation, if it was some other companies, people would just use the "don't believe his lies" picture from Memento.
BloodMoney
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but but but... this thread is already like 5,000 kelvin.
JoeyJungle
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Don't some people prefer 30 fps because 60 gives them motion sickness? Seems like a pretty simple thing to include, and if it gives people the experience they prefer I don't see a reason for them not to do it.
Lord Error
Insane For Sony
Vita games can work at 60 of course, but Remote Play works at 30FPS only, *but* does a terrible job of discarding frames correctly on games that run at above 30 so you get some really, really weird jumpyness, which is completely eliminated when you lock the PS4 game down to 30 with a provided option.
So there, even for 30FPS haters, it's a perfectly legitimate choice to have it as an option for anyone who wants Vita Remote play.
jacksepticeye
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You can't bloody win with gamers it seems. Some gamers didn't want 60fps cos it feels "off" or some other reasons and 60fps lovers didn't like 30 cos it wasn't fluid enough and now here comes a game with options for both and people are still complaining.
Just play whatever framerate you prefer. Who cares what personal preference other people have as long as you get what you want
Just play whatever framerate you prefer. Who cares what personal preference other people have as long as you get what you want
That thread was hard to read for me.
Sorry, you replied to a post that said "if they toggle the options and see how fluid 60 FPS compared to 30 FPS", so I thought you meant 30 fps default and few people would care to toggle it.
NullPointer
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A locked 60fps with a locked 30fps option purely for personal preference seems like the perfect win/win to me.
Dragonborn
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It feels like some people are just eagerly waiting to pounce on them. Is there any reason why?
That's a really interesting point, didn't know about this.
It'll be interesting to test with The Last of Us if even locked 60 benefits from locking it at 30 before playing on Vita.
This should be quoted more even to inform devs, since looks like we only got the option here because people prefer 30, no one thought about this.
I thought the light would bother me, but yeah, you almost don't notice it. Which is even worse, I guess, it's just eating battery life for nothing.
Please let me disable it, Sony >_<
I also don't even know if the speakers on my DS4 work, been using pulse elites since day one with the PS4.
jacksepticeye
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If this thread has proven anything it's that people will complain regardless of what happens.
KINGofCRA5H
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I seriously think people are used to last gen games still. 60fps was not a part of last gen. Maybe they're just not used to the change yet? I dunno I have no idea, just trying to find reasoning.
LiquidMetal14
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Better to announce that on GAF as well!
Is it so impossible to think some people don't like the aesthetic of 60FPS?
NullPointer
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I remember reading people that really didn't like how the cinematic intro of Ground Zeroes was in 60fps. Made some of them motion sick, or otherwise felt wrong. I could see others having a similar issue here, at least until people get acclimated to higher framerate storytelling in more games and films.
Apologies if I'm retreading old ground the thread has already covered to death. Just got up and read the first page and the last few.
Summer Haze
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It seems for some, it is, yes.
BloodMoney
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It's certainly a stretch of the imagination... but whatevsies. To each his own,
so long as I get my 60