Super Smash Bros. for 3DS & Wii U Thread 10: Against the Odds, We Choose to Hype!

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BY2K said:
Can somebody PLEASE explain to me the context of this Yoshi/Gertsmann shenanigans!?
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Jeff doesn't like Yoshi's Island. He thinks it's a bad game made that might as well have been made by a third-party like TOSE that Nintendo just threw their name on.

When people disagree, he gets further entrenched and won't change his mind. That's basically it.
 
ShockingAlberto said:
To clarify, they didn't think FE:A was bad, just that it was unsuccessful, thus pulling from it doesn't make sense.

They are also of the belief that Lucina is the daughter of Marth and Robin.
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Unsuccessful? Compared to what? I'm pretty sure it's the highest selling FE game and Sakurai had no problem putting FE characters in Smash when the game was Japan only and Roy before he even HAD a game

SmithnCo said:
He hates the Yoshi egg-throwing mechanic so he shits on Yoshi games. Then they named the Yoshi after him at SGDQ.
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Yeah, that was great
 
Tripon said:
But it sold the most copies of the entire franchise. I mean, unsuccessful how? Narrative wise? Financial wise? Support from Nintendo?
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They don't hate nintendo, but they also don't follow it closely enough to make educated suggestions/predictions about nintendo stuff. The usually like a lot of nintendo stuff, but to hear them speculate or talk about nintendo stuff, they're clearly not in the know, nor do they care to be.
 
emb said:
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We are sorely lacking in reps from the Zelda CD-i games. There should be room since no one else has taken their slot(s).
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If there was a shot for him, I'd probably want him even more than I'd want Ridley. And my desire for a fully playable Ridley is as big as the dragon himself.
Too big to ever be fulfilled... :(

I also seriously want to play those games, too, but the Wii U VC can't even cover what its predecessor already had long before this point, so between that and the recent suit Philips subjected Nintendo to, even if King Harkinian's technically from the cartoon, he's never showing up again, not even in Hyrule Warriors.
 
ShockingAlberto said:
If Lucina and Robin confuse the mainstream game press and get them to frustratedly complain that Nintendo is running out of characters so they're pulling from poorly-received series like Fire Emblem, I can't imagine what sort of reaction characters from Metroid Prime Hunters would cause.
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Say what?

I'm not a Fire Emblem fan so I didn't know who Robin was at first either, but that's not evidence of them running out of characters.

God, it's like the people, regarding Pokémon, who claim that Game Freak are "out of ideas" just because they don't like some of the new designs. No, they're not out of ideas or out of characters, you just don't like their designs/choice, and that's fine everyone's different and has different likes, but don't be an idiot and say they're running out of ideas.
 
 
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So I think the argument for people who don't really follow Nintendo or are disillusioned with Nintendo is that the new character picks aren't "iconic" Nintendo characters to them. This dovetails in to one of the bigger Nintendo complaints, that they aren't making new IPs and characters, so every new Smash Bros. is going to have characters that they consider reaching because, in their eyes, Nintendo output has just been Mario and Zelda for the last generation.

To someone that doesn't follow Nintendo and never played Fire Emblem Awakening, announcing two characters from the game might be a "Really, you do this but don't have (insert character from youth) yet?" thing.
 
ShockingAlberto said:
So I think the argument for people who don't really follow Nintendo or are disillusioned with Nintendo is that the new character picks aren't "iconic" Nintendo characters to them. This dovetails in to one of the bigger Nintendo complaints, that they aren't making new IPs and characters, so every new Smash Bros. is going to have characters that they consider reaching because, in their eyes, Nintendo output has just been Mario and Zelda for the last generation.

To someone that doesn't follow Nintendo and never played Fire Emblem Awakening, announcing two characters from the game might be a "Really, you do this but don't have (insert character from youth) yet?" thing.
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It's still somewhat an asinine comment.

They should say that, say that they want a classic character, not claim they're running out.

Ah well. It's irrelevant in the long run. Journalists are just people, just with a wider audience.
 
Fiktion said:
Sal Romano very specifically said that the leaker emailed him before the trailer and said it would be Shulk.
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I meant the second e-mail, where the leaker said that he doesn't know everything about schedule and such. That poster was saying that the second e-mail was received by Gematsu before the video, but I'm pretty sure I remember it being presented by Gematsu as the leaker's reply after the video.
 
Just finished listening to that particular Bombcast segment. I completely overreacted to what was said. It seems more like they are just confused about these characters rather than actually being against them showing up in Smash Bros.
 
theprodigy said:
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Mr. Smiley said:
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Basically it lets me see what some dude thought smash bros should be like (or what that person thinks OTHER people want smash bros to be like). It's a long, detailed, thought out guess at what that person thinks the game will be.

It's also more fun if we don't know if it's real or not, but even debunked fake ones give you an insight into someone crazy enough to spend a ton of time and effort imagining what smash brothers could potentially be.
 
EulaCapra said:
Let's talk about stages. Especially this rumor that's been up since a month ago.

http://ssb4dojo.com/post/88984765921/rumor-mill-crashandcortexs-leak

Regardless of fake/real, that's a nice stage list for the 3DS. And would confirm that 3DS version will be the only one to get Melee stages. Plus, it has Vegas Palace from F-Zero GX. This must happen!
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Could someone say what these stages are exactly? Some are hard to understand.
From what I understand:

1. Mario 3D Land
2. Balloon Fight
3. Boxing Ring
4. Brain Age Stage
5. Reset Bomb Forest
6. Final Destination
7. Face Raiders (that 3DS minigame?)
8. Arena Ferox
9. Floralia (this I don't know)
9. Melee Fourside
10. Melee Garden (???)
11. Gerudo Valley
12. Gold Plains (was this leak after the confirmation of this stage?)
13. N64 Hyrule Castle
14. Icicle Mountain (new Ice Climbers stage I guess)
15. N64 Inishien (???)
16. Melee Izumi (???)
17. Rhythm Heaven stage
18. Jungle Coast (Donkey Kong stage?)
19. Melee Brinstar Depths
20. Lounge (Nintendogs stage)
21. Miarecity (???)
22. Mt. Dedede (don't know exactly where it's from)
23. Melee Mute City
24. Osohe (???)
25. Pac Maze
26. Melee Pura (???)
27. Quest (Find Mii stage?)
28. Rainbow Road
29. Tortimer Island
30. N64 Sector Z
31. Senjo (???)
32. Skyroad (no idea where it could be from)
33. SR388
34. Tomodachi stage
35. Tundra (maybe from Metal Gear Solid?)
36. Spirit Train
37. Vegas Palace (fuck yeah)
38. Wario Taxi (lol dunno what this is)
39. Wily's Castle (like WiiU? Strange if Pac got two different stages and Mega Man the same)
40. Yoshi Cloud (from Story maybe?)
41. Melee Yoster (lol wut)
42. Zoness

Can someone put light into this?
 
Kriken said:
Eh for me I like to see how creative some people can be. A good fake leak like the Palutena one gave a lot of discussion on whether it was real or not. In the end, Palutena did end up being playable, but based on the model, the Palutena leak was a fake
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We still have no clue if the leak was fake or not
 
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Someone (please, Sakurai) should really give this wonderful character some love and attention. I severely doubt he will make the roster, but perhaps can be an assist trophy (maybe already has, I'm not very active in this thread?).
 
Okay, so this is probably overdone at this point, but what would be the PERFECT roster to you? Let's say you have 49 slots to fill and you don't have to include anyone who has already been revealed.

Here's mine:

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- Rosalina
- Falco (Fox alt costume)
- Jigglypuff
- Lucario (Mewtwo alt costume)
- Lucas (Ness alt costume)
- Lucina (Marth alt costume)
- Wii Fit Trainer
 
Macka said:
Okay, so this is probably overdone at this point, but what would be the PERFECT roster to you? Let's say you have 49 slots to fill and you don't have to include anyone who has already been revealed.

Here's mine:

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Cut
- Rosalina
- Falco (Fox alt costume)
- Jigglypuff
- Lucario (Mewtwo alt costume)
- Lucas (Ness alt costume)
- Lucina (Marth alt costume)
- Wii Fit Trainer
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Lucario is not even a clone of Mewtwo in the first place (they just share similar neutral B moves) so I don't know why he would be an alt.
 
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