Trails in the Sky: FC on Steam/GOG July 29th

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I don't understand why people think even that constitutes as DRM, is it really that different from requiring an account to buy games and using a proprietary installer (that advertises other games the entire way through)? Games that don't require CEG to launch are DRM-free to me. Unless only the Humble Store is the only real DRM-free outlet (for games that are DRM-free of course).

This is how I see it. DRM you like is still DRM. See how GOG does it: either you can just have the .exe of the game and copy that anyway you want OR use their client in the future. They don't force you to run any other program like Steam.

DRM = Digital rights management

What's the problem with that cover? I like it.

Me too. Most of the time JRPG's seem to be pretty lighthearted so wouldn't having a character smile in the cover make sense?
 
Yeah, I'm not really getting it unless it's some sort of anti-anime thing... in which case screenshots will be just as damaging.

I think it's more a subtlety thing. The artwork we used for our cover seems contemplative and represents the feel of the game really well... whereas the artwork used for the Japanese release has more of a "TA-DAH!" feel to it. I always like to joke that Estelle's thinking to herself in that image, "I'm a-gunna hug ya'!" ;)

They're both good pieces of art, but I much prefer the cover we used, personally.

-Tom
 
I don't understand why people think even that constitutes as DRM, is it really that different from requiring an account to buy games and using a proprietary installer (that advertises other games the entire way through)? Games that don't require CEG to launch are DRM-free to me. Unless only the Humble Store is the only real DRM-free outlet (for games that are DRM-free of course).

Completely. When you buy a game on GOG and download the installer, their involvement in your use of the game is done. You're never going to be impeded from using it because their servers are down, your internet's not working, etc. It takes away that unnecessary layer of bullshit that could prevent you from using your game.
 
This is how I see it. DRM you like is still DRM. See how GOG does it: either you can just have the .exe of the game and copy that anyway you want OR use their client in the future. They don't force you to run any other program like Steam.

DRM = Digital rights management

We're talking about games that don't require the Steam client (the CEG).

Completely. When you buy a game on GOG and download the installer, their involvement in your use of the game is done. You're never going to be impeded from using it because their servers are down, your internet's not working, etc. It takes away that unnecessary layer of bullshit that could prevent you from using your game.

Yes, after you do that. If you download a game that doesn't require the CEG to run on Steam it'll do the same after you download it.
 
Yeah, I'm not really getting it unless it's some sort of anti-anime thing... in which case screenshots will be just as damaging.

It's not as much anti-anime, as it is anti-pandering. A lot of people are sick and tired of the usual JRPGs we get these days, so that those people are quick to dismiss RPGs thinking that it's something along the lines of your usual NISA published game. While Trails is nothing like that, it's easy to get that impression when looking at the original cover (and when you are already biased to a certain degree, anyway).
 
I think it's more a subtlety thing. The artwork we used for our cover seems contemplative and represents the feel of the game really well... whereas the artwork used for the Japanese release has more of a "TA-DAH!" feel to it. I always like to joke that Estelle's thinking to herself in that image, "I'm a-gunna hug ya'!" ;)

They're both good pieces of art, but I much prefer the cover we used, personally.

-Tom

It's not as much anti-anime, as it is anti-pandering. A lot of people are sick and tired of the usual JRPGs we get these days, so that those people are quick to dismiss RPGs thinking that it's something along the lines of your usual NISA published game. While Trails is nothing like that, it's easy to get that impression when looking at the original cover (and when you are already biased to a certain degree, anyway).

I'm having trouble conveying exactly what my opinion is on the covers but it falls somewhere between these. The Japanese/European cover seems very generic.

Part of it is also that I tend to not like a lot of covers in general, especially for Japanese RPGs. I'm sure a few people have noticed my posting habits and tendency to be critical of covers when discussions about them come up (this happened a lot with Ys Celceta before its NA release!). The NA Trails cover is one of the handful I can actually say "yeah, I like that," and I always inadvertently compare the two and think "wow, the original cover is so bad [in comparison]." I guess alone it's just... generic.
 
The "cover" thing is also going to get really funny for SC, because XSEED has... three? four? different ones to choose from for that game, despite the fact that it won't even get a physical release.
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You've got the original PC cover/key art, the PSP key art, the HACCAN key art which was used for the FC/SC combo pack (and I know Tom, at least, is a huge fan of that one)... and any one of them would make a good choice since they largely avoid the trap that the FC PSP cover falls into.

(My personal vote is also for the HACCAN art because gatdam)
 
It's not as much anti-anime, as it is anti-pandering. A lot of people are sick and tired of the usual JRPGs we get these days, so that those people are quick to dismiss RPGs thinking that it's something along the lines of your usual NISA published game. While Trails is nothing like that, it's easy to get that impression when looking at the original cover (and when you are already biased to a certain degree, anyway).

I'm not sure how someone could draw the conclusion of FC being a pandering game from the JP/EU cover unless they were really biased. Its just Estelle making an energetic gesture with Joshua in the background. Fan service games are hardly ever subtle with their sexuality. I think the problem with JP/EU cover is that it looks simple in an awkward kind of way while the US cover looks more refined. It doesn't help that the art in the former is kind of off-model compared to the in-game portraits.
 
I tried to play it on PsP but couldn't get on with the controls, looking forward to this.

"It's Finally Happening!"
 
I just beat Ys I Chronicles and am about to start II. My first Falcom games, I believe, so I guess I'll be introduced to two Falcom franchises this month! I've actually been wanting to check out Trails in the Sky ever since I saw Jason Schreier raving about it on Joystiq back in 2011 or so, so I'm most definitely looking forward to this one.

I'm not sure how someone could draw the conclusion of FC being a pandering game from the JP/EU cover unless they were really biased. Its just Estelle making an energetic gesture with Joshua in the background. Fan service games are hardly ever subtle with their sexuality. I think the problem with JP/EU cover is that it looks simple in an awkward kind of way while the US cover looks more refined. It doesn't help that the art in the former is kind of off-model compared to the in-game portraits.

Yeah, not seeing what is so bad about the cover. I do prefer the US one, but there is nothing offensive/pandering/whatever about the JP/EU one.
 
I wonder when the big dogs like Disgaea and Persona will make their way over. Anyway. This will be day one for me.

Probably not anytime soon or never. XSEED is really just taking advantage of the fact that Falcom developed PC versions of these games before porting them to other platforms. They're just polishing them up, adding some new current-day features, and putting them out as digital downloads (which is awesome of course). The games you mentioned don't really have a presence of a PC version already made.
 
I hope they program in a fast forward button like those Final Fantasy ports. Trails has an interesting story but it takes so long to tell it...
 
No, never played it. Want to buy it because I keep hearing about it on GAF.

The series as a whole is some of the best RPGs out there. Top class writing brings together detailed, memorable characters with stories that pay attention to both the minutia and the bigger picture of its world. The scope is just ridiculous.

This game is the start, laying down the foundation for the half-dozen games to follow that all build upon that. It's a slow burner though so you need to sit and enjoy the sense of adventure and exploration of the game world.
 
Ah yea yea yea

Was waiting for this news for a while. Was just searching for the old threads again a few days ago, will admit I was slightly worried that it may be further delayed again, as it was originally. Damn, 1 week away, seems so soon! Heh, I remember like 6 months back or something, hoping that it would come out around Christmas time and now here we are. Really hoping that the game does well, hopefully SC isnt too far behind.
 
The PC version has higher quality graphics than the PSP version (the sprites and textures were reduced in quality for the PSP release), and is 60 FPS on even 10 year old PCs. They're also bringing all of the PSP extras back to the PC version, and adding widescreen support and Steam achievements, etc. so the PC version will be the definitive one for sure.

The only thing I'm going to miss in this version is the wonderful font from the PS3 port. Not really digging this one.

I think it's more a subtlety thing. The artwork we used for our cover seems contemplative and represents the feel of the game really well... whereas the artwork used for the Japanese release has more of a "TA-DAH!" feel to it. I always like to joke that Estelle's thinking to herself in that image, "I'm a-gunna hug ya'!" ;)

They're both good pieces of art, but I much prefer the cover we used, personally.

-Tom

Why not use that lovely haccan art instead? :)

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This is how I see it. DRM you like is still DRM. See how GOG does it: either you can just have the .exe of the game and copy that anyway you want OR use their client in the future. They don't force you to run any other program like Steam.

DRM = Digital rights management

Again, you seem to be ignoring or misreading every post regarding this. This doesn't have CEG. It's DRM-free on steam. You don't have to use the client for anything but the download.
 
It's not as much anti-anime, as it is anti-pandering. A lot of people are sick and tired of the usual JRPGs we get these days, so that those people are quick to dismiss RPGs thinking that it's something along the lines of your usual NISA published game. While Trails is nothing like that, it's easy to get that impression when looking at the original cover (and when you are already biased to a certain degree, anyway).

Honestly, I dismissed Trails in the Sky completely when it first came out. I wasn't into Falcom games by that point, and figured it was just another Gust shitfest or something along those lines.

No. No, Falcom games are not that.
 
I will buy this puppy day one. Never played the PSP game as I always delayed it for some reason or another. It's time.
 
I am quite pleased. Now we're just a bit closer to SC!
I need to figure out how to transfer my FC save from the PSP memory stick to Vita in preparation.
 
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