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[darkmagus]

btw SmashGAF have you listened to this Medley of The Smash Series Main Themes
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GAhNMBnsvmg

 

[The Great Gonzales]

I really do think that the full roster will be announced prior to release (otherwise all four Fire Emblem characters wouldn’t have been revealed yet). And since the 3DS version comes out in exactly seven weeks from today in Japan, Sakurai is going to have to burn through the following in a month:

Ness
Jigglypuff
Ice Climbers
Mr. Game & Watch
Falco
Ganondorf
Wario
Meta Knight
Wolf
R.O.B.
Shulk
Chorus Kids (

Spoiler

believe

)

We could very well get a veteran reveal per week from now on. There will probably be a random Direct in August with Shulk, and there might be another dedicated Smash Bros. Direct in early September for Chorus Kids and the last few veterans.

Would they really do two Smash Directs in such close proximity? I'd imagine they'd just do one direct in August revealing both Shulk and Chorus Kids as well as a couple vets (Wario and ROB pls) and then reveal the rest of the vets through PotDs. Otherwise, seven weeks isn't enough time to reveal that entire list.

 

[Ryce]

Would they really do two Smash Directs in such close proximity? I'd imagine they'd just do one direct in August revealing both Shulk and Chorus Kids as well as a couple vets (Wario and ROB pls) and then reveal the rest of the vets through PotDs. Otherwise, seven weeks isn't enough time to reveal that entire list.

I meant to say that the August Direct would be a regular Nintendo Direct covering other games as well. Only the September one would be dedicated to Smash Bros.

 

[akidnamededdy]

Would they really do two Smash Directs in such close proximity? I'd imagine they'd just do one direct in August revealing both Shulk and Chorus Kids as well as a couple vets (Wario and ROB pls) and then reveal the rest of the vets through PotDs. Otherwise, seven weeks isn't enough time to reveal that entire list.

Nah more likely it'd be a general Direct in August with a vet or two revealed and then a Smash Direct closer to release with a newcomer or two.

 

[BGBW]

He means not being revealed on the day we thought he would be.

Aye.

 

[QKT100]

I feel the roster within this game is getting a bit excessive at times. I think Fire Emblem would have benefited from characters like Frederick and Kellam rather than Robin and Lucina. I also have a distaste for how Zelda and Zero Suit Samus are independent characters, it's messy.

 

[Not]

So who else here is going to the Smash tournament tomorrow and Saturday?

 

[peanutbutterlatte]

I feel the roster within this game is getting a bit excessive at times. I think Fire Emblem would have benefited from characters like Frederick and Kellam rather than Robin and Lucina. I also have a distaste for how Zelda and Zero Suit Samus are independent characters, it's messy.

Who the hell is Kellam.

 

[Moonlight]

I feel the roster within this game is getting a bit excessive at times. I think Fire Emblem would have benefited from characters like Frederick and Kellam rather than Robin and Lucina. I also have a distaste for how Zelda and Zero Suit Samus are independent characters, it's messy.

what.

 

[OmegaSmash]

btw SmashGAF have you listened to this Medley of The Smash Series Main Themes
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GAhNMBnsvmg

Man, I totally forgot that concert was a thing. I'd kill for a DVD or CD of it.

 

[Finale Fireworker]

Who the hell is Kellam.

I also have never heard of, or seen, anybody named Kellam in Fire Emblem.

 

[Spinosaurus]

Who the hell is Kellam.

he's that big knight right there

oh where did he go

 

[balladofwindfishes]

btw SmashGAF have you listened to this Medley of The Smash Series Main Themes
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GAhNMBnsvmg

This loops really well, I'd love to hear it on battlefield or final destination as bg music

 

[Makai]

Who the hell is Kellam.

If Fire Emblem Awakening were a movie he wouldn't have a named role.

 

[kuroneko0509]

I feel the roster within this game is getting a bit excessive at times. I think Fire Emblem would have benefited from characters like Frederick and Kellam rather than Robin and Lucina. I also have a distaste for how Zelda and Zero Suit Samus are independent characters, it's messy.

Ahahaha I rather take Roy than the 2 of em, especially Kellam where he always goes unnoticeable. If Kellam is in, pretty sure people will forget that he's exist in the roster.

 

[Finale Fireworker]

he's that big knight right there

oh where did he go

I hope Kellam's trophy is just an empty trophy stand with "NOT FOUND" for the description.

 

[BassForever]

Would they really do two Smash Directs in such close proximity? I'd imagine they'd just do one direct in August revealing both Shulk and Chorus Kids as well as a couple vets (Wario and ROB pls) and then reveal the rest of the vets through PotDs. Otherwise, seven weeks isn't enough time to reveal that entire list.

Not really, the august one would be more general with footage for all the fall/winter games like Bayonetta 2, Captain Toad's Treasure Tracker, Smash Bros 3DS/WiiU, Hyrule Warriors, etc This would be hosted by Iwata and would probably only have a typical Smash trailer/newcomer reveal without Sakurai showing up

The one in September would be simply focused on the 3DS and maybe some bits of the WiiU version. This would be hosted by Sakurai himself and would probably have him explaining all the modes in the 3DS version, the starting roster/stages, unlockable characters/stages, etc

 

[Geminosity]

YES, you should have

Well, if you insist ;D

Now everything can be in smash dollars!

 

[ShockingAlberto]

We haven't had an Iwata Direct since, what, February?

 

[Moonlight]

Ahahaha I rather take Roy than the 2 of em, especially Kellam where he always goes unnoticeable. If Kellam is in, pretty sure people will forget that he's exist in the roster.

I actually would.

and not in the haha funny way

 

[Juansho]

btw SmashGAF have you listened to this Medley of The Smash Series Main Themes
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GAhNMBnsvmg

Beautiful.

 

[Caladrius]

We haven't had an Iwata Direct since, what, February?

I thought we had one in April

Or was that the Smash Direct?

 

[QKT100]

Ahahaha I rather take Roy than the 2 of em, especially Kellam where he always goes unnoticeable. If Kellam is in, pretty sure people will forget that he's exist in the roster.

I do not feel this is good reasoning. I think the roster could only benefit from increasingly diverse characters, Kellam's turtle style could have been quite unique. Lucina however will be overly similar to Marth.

 

[Drago]

I thought we had one in April

Or was that the Smash Direct?

April had Directs for Smash, Tomodachi Life, and Mario Kart 8. Iwata only had a small role in the MK8 one and wasn't in the other two (unless you count his Mii appearance in the Tomodachi one, lol)

 

[Hatchtag]

Also what about the fact there is evidence to suggest the SSE was a canceled Kirby Wii prototype?

I mean, if it wasn't working as a Kirby game it doesn't work any better with Smash characters.

If you're getting that info from the beta elements list on Smash Boards (because that's the only place I've seen that before), let me 100% guarantee you that's wrong.

 

[ShockingAlberto]

April had Directs for Smash, Tomodachi Life, and Mario Kart 8. Iwata only had a small role in the MK8 one and wasn't in the other two (unless you count his Mii appearance in the Tomodachi one, lol)

I imagine it's for a lot of reasons. He's been sick, Nintendo isn't doing terribly well so it looks bad for him to be seen doing promotional videos, etc.

But April kind of broke the pattern of Directs, too. We had never had a game-specific Direct take the place of an International Iwata Direct but it happened that month. Two months after that was E3 and, if the pattern were to return, we'd get a "big" Direct in August.

 

[Ryce]

I do not feel this is good reasoning. I think the roster could only benefit from increasingly diverse characters, Kellam's turtle style could have been quite unique. Lucina however will be overly similar to Marth.

Robin and Lucina are two of Awakening's stars and among its more popular characters -- Kellam is not. Diversity and obscurity are not synonymous. Robin is incredibly unique, for example.

 

[Moonlight]

I do not feel this is good reasoning. I think the roster could only benefit from increasingly diverse characters, Kellam's turtle style could have been quite unique. Lucina however will be overly similar to Marth.

Go nuts.

 

[IntelliHeath]

I also want Anth0ny's full impressions after he wins the 3DS tourney. That's gotta be worth a bunch of posts.

He is going to make us wait for awhile. PART 1, PART 2 and PART 3.

I imagine it's for a lot of reasons. He's been sick, Nintendo isn't doing terribly well so it looks bad for him to be seen doing promotional videos, etc.

But April kind of broke the pattern of Directs, too. We had never had a game-specific Direct take the place of an International Iwata Direct but it happened that month. Two months after that was E3 and, if the pattern were to return, we'd get a "big" Direct in August.

or we would get Hyrule Warrior Direct, Bayonetta Direct and Smash Direct instead. I dunno what I would like to see. Just surprise me please.

 

[ShockingAlberto]

"We need Kellam for diversity, he'd be better than Robin."

???

 

[QKT100]

Robin and Lucina are two of Awakening's stars and among its more popular characters -- Kellam is not. Diversity and obscurity are not synonymous. Robin is incredibly unique, for example.

Yet Frederick is, so I am glad you agree that he would be far more suited than Lucina.

 

[Moonlight]

Are you actually trying to argue that Frederick is more popular than Lucina or something or

 

[ShockingAlberto]

I am actually for Frederick if they make him accurate to the series' long history of jeigans and he slowly gets worse as the battles goes on.

I mean, he'd be a terrible joke character, but it would be accurate to the game.

 

[SmithnCo]

I feel the roster within this game is getting a bit excessive at times. I think Fire Emblem would have benefited from characters like Frederick and Kellam rather than Robin and Lucina. I also have a distaste for how Zelda and Zero Suit Samus are independent characters, it's messy.

I really like the independent characters. I find that I always usually stuck with one transformation or the other, so splitting them up and giving them a full moveset works pretty well.

 

[Ryce]

Yet Frederick is, so I am glad you agree that he would be far more suited than Lucina.

Lucina is simply a bonus character. She's a clone. I hope you don't honestly think it was ever a matter of including Lucina versus a completely unique newcomer.

 

[QKT100]

If you want the game to support a roster based simply on popularity, then maybe we should also have Tom Nook from Animal Crossing, the other 148 pokemon from gen 1 and the tennis raquet from Wii Sports?

 

[zroid]

Guys, no one would ever pick Kellam. It's a bad idea.

He'd only get selected via random.

 

[kuroneko0509]

I do not feel this is good reasoning. I think the roster could only benefit from increasingly diverse characters, Kellam's turtle style could have been quite unique. Lucina however will be overly similar to Marth.

As diverse as you want, you mustn't forget that Smash Bros mostly consist of memorable characters in its roster. Why would Sakurai use a slot to include a newcomer not only just a very minor side-character in the game but also involve in a running joke where people always forgot about him. Unless he's a returning side character in multiple game, then there might be possible.

Guys, no one would ever pick Kellam. It's a bad idea.

He'd only get selected via random.

Even random button will forget he's existed.

 

[Moonlight]

If you want the game to support a roster based simply on popularity, then maybe we should also have Tom Nook from Animal Crossing, the other 148 pokemon from gen 1 and the tennis raquet from Wii Sports?

no actually frederick and kellam would just be terrible ideas from like

every standpoint

all of them

 

[SoldnerKei]

I would rather have Tharja over Frederick or Kellam(seriously?) but we already have a girl with a tightskin outfit running around free in the game, and Robin kind of fulfill her "playstyle" with the Tomes thing

 

[QKT100]

As diverse as you want, you mustn't forget that Smash Bros mostly consist of memorable characters in its roster. Why would Sakurai use a slot to include a newcomer not only just a very minor side-character in the game but also involve in a running joke where people always forgot about him. Unless he's a returning side character in multiple game, then there might be possible.

The Smash Brothers series is one which can make characters from nothing, see Captain Falcon.

Sure, Frederick and Kellam may not be the best examples, they were the first that came to mind. So why not include more prominent characters with more unique fighting styles from other entries?

No actually frederick and kellam would just be terrible ideas from like

every standpoint

all of them

I eagerly await your reasoning.

 

[Makai]

no actually frederick and kellam would just be terrible ideas from like

every standpoint

all of them

For real. Robin was a great choice.

 

[ChimpBottle]

Yet Frederick is, so I am glad you agree that he would be far more suited than Lucina.

Frederick rides a horse. They're not putting a horse in a platforming fighting game

 

[Ryce]

So why not include more prominent characters with more unique fighting styles from other entries?

10 of the 11 revealed newcomers have unique fighting styles. What's the issue here?

 

[ShockingAlberto]

The Smash Brothers series is one which can make characters from nothing, see Captain Falcon.

Sure, Frederick and Kellam may not be the best examples, they were the first that came to mind. So why not include more prominent characters with more unique fighting styles from other entries?

I agree. We haven't had a single boxer, or mage/melee user, or puppet-master character yet. Other fighting games can do this and Smash is still lagging behind with these fighting styles.

 

[Geminosity]

The Smash Brothers series is one which can make characters from nothing, see Captain Falcon.

Sure, Frederick and Kellam may not be the best examples, they were the first that came to mind. So why not include more prominent characters with more unique fighting styles from other entries?

I wouldn't say Captain Falcon was 'nothing' per se. Moveset-wise, sure, but from a stand-out point of view he was one of THE most iconic characters from F-Zero if not the leading man of the series. That's a far cry from someone most fans of the series seem to joke about not even existing

 

[Finale Fireworker]

If you're getting that info from the beta elements list on Smash Boards (because that's the only place I've seen that before), let me 100% guarantee you that's wrong.

I don't remember where I heard it now, but Smashboards is not unlikely. I also believe I saw it on the Smash wiki that ISN'T full of false information compared to the one that is.

I believe you, but how do you know it's 100% wrong? Has there never been any legitimate verification of the claim?

 

[kuroneko0509]

The Smash Brothers series is one which can make characters from nothing, see Captain Falcon.

Sure, Frederick and Kellam may not be the best examples, they were the first that came to mind. So why not include more prominent characters with more unique fighting styles from other entries?



I eagerly await your reasoning.

Uuhh.... Cap'n Falcon is the main protagonist in F-Zero series. Frederick & Kellam are side-characters in a single Fire Emblem game. Bad comparison.

 

[Makai]

The Smash Brothers series is one which can make characters from nothing, see Captain Falcon.

Captain Falcon is on the COVER

Where's Kellam?

 

[Nocturnowl]

I am actually for Frederick if they make him accurate to the series' long history of jeigans and he slowly gets worse as the battles goes on.

I mean, he'd be a terrible joke character, but it would be accurate to the game.

It could play into the progression of classic mode as well as matches in general. Start off classic mode one shot smashing your opponents off the stage, if you manage to reach master hand your attacks appear to miss half the time and each time you're hit it's as if you're in fact struck twice for massive damage.