THANOS IS IN GUARDIANS OF THE GALAXY, THE INTERNET IS A SNAKE EATING ITS OWN TAIL

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That wasn't the announcement though. Go back to the source of the story Variety posted. It's Latino Review who received their information from "sources". That wasn't the announcement. If you read the Latino Review story, they even say that Brolin's agent isn't talking about it yet.

An announcement comes from Marvel and they mentioned at SDCC they were finally revealing the worst kept secret in Hollywood, Thanos in GOTG.

Basically though, everyone knew what was up.

You are correct, it was not a press release. But if Variety is reporting it, then it is pretty damn well confirmed.

The actual official press release that Brolin was playing Thanos in the film came out right after comic con though. So even if the official word that he was in GotG was not out in May, it has been out for a few days at least.
 
You are correct, it was not a press release. But if Variety is reporting it, then it is pretty damn well confirmed.

The actual official press release that Brolin was playing Thanos in the film came out right after comic con though. So even if the official word that he was in GotG was not out in May, it has been out for a few days at least.

Yeah, Variety isn't going to report it unless they have a second source to verify it. The cat was out of the bag then.
 
I've been pretty much ignoring everything about this movie because to me it looks kinda dumb (especially the raccoon). Plus the trailer I saw looked really cheesy and I hadn't planned on watching this until it hit video. With all this being said, even I knew he was going to be in the movie. Lol! Goddamn some of you people know even less about this movie than some who has no intention of watching it until it hits the bargain bin.
 
For 6 months now, I've tried to avoid all information about this movie. Closed my eyes and ears during trailers in the theater, ran out of the room screaming when commercials came on television, I stopped reading emails, wouldn't take phone calls unless it was from someone I trusted with my life and started working from home.

GAF is pretty much the only website I could visit because I felt safe knowing that spoilers aren't tolerated here. At least, that's what I thought. I woke up this morning and poured myself a glass of orange juice, pulling up Neogaf OT on my phone. Top of the page: "First look at THANOS in Guardians of the Galaxy". The glass I was holding fell out of my hand and shattered on the floor as I crumpled to the ground.

My parents found me an hour later crying on the floor in a puddle of dried OJ. My mom asked if I was dying. "G.O.T.G. has been spoiled! So, yes, I am!" I shrieked at her. Her response was very sympathetic: "Alright. How about you just get up and clean the floor, for Christ's sake." My dad kneeled down and looked at me with tears in his eyes. "You heard about Thanos, huh?"
 
I'm sticking to the last few pages because I'd rather not see Thanos beforehand but I can see how this thread has gone and I find it hilarious. Must've been a great battle. I feel like a lot of blood has been spilled here.

What's the argument about exactly?
 
I'm sticking to the last few pages because I'd rather not see Thanos beforehand but I can see how this thread has gone and I find it hilarious. Must've been a great battle. I feel like a lot of blood has been spilled here.

Not enough, IMO. I want a graveyard.

Also DAMN YOU FEIGE, DAMN YOU TO HELL
 
All things aside, track names on soundtracks can spoil the holy shit out of movies. Examples: Dredd, GOTG, Transformers, etc

The famous one is The Phantom Menace, whose soundtrack came out a couple of weeks before the movie with tracks called Qui-Gon's Noble End and Qui-Gon's Funeral. That's a legitimate spoiler and I can understand people being pissed off at having a major character death in the first Star Wars movie for 16 years revealed, but there are people on GAF who think listening to the music is a spoiler.

For 6 months now, I've tried to avoid all information about this movie. Closed my eyes and ears during trailers in the theater, ran out of the room screaming when commercials came on television, I stopped reading emails, wouldn't take phone calls unless it was from someone I trusted with my life and started working from home.

GAF is pretty much the only website I could visit because I felt safe knowing that spoilers aren't tolerated here. At least, that's what I thought. I woke up this morning and poured myself a glass of orange juice, pulling up Neogaf OT on my phone. Top of the page: "First look at THANOS in Guardians of the Galaxy". The glass I was holding fell out of my hand and shattered on the floor as I crumpled to the ground.

My parents found me an hour later crying on the floor in a puddle of dried OJ. My mom asked if I was dying. "G.O.T.G. has been spoiled! So, yes, I am!" I shrieked at her. Her response was very sympathetic: "Alright. How about you just get up and clean the floor, for Christ's sake." My dad kneeled down and looked at me with tears in his eyes. "You heard about Thanos, huh?"

I've said before that there should be a Poe's Law for spoilerphobes. I couldn't tell for certain if you were joking until the end of the second paragraph.
 
Not enough, IMO. I want a graveyard.


"To challenge them... is to court death."

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Never noticed how unfair some people get with people who don't want to be spoiled, I forgot we were in the matrix and must have every bit of info absorbed into our skulls.

My simple rule of thumb for what constitutes a spoiler: information the filmmakers/distributor don't want made public prior to the release of the film. In this case, Marvel announced Thanos in GotG in a press release and brought the actor to a convention. They've been talking about it openly for a while.

What's really unfair is to somehow put it on everyone else to know what information you have absorbed, and what you would like to avoid. We don't know what slice of the PR you've picked up on, nor should we. If you don't want to absorb public information, don't read public message boards prior to the release of the movie.
 
This thread is great.

It made me smile on my commute into work.

Messofanego said:
If mods want to deem spoiler whining bannable and have a set of official rules about spoilers in the TOS, that's up to them. Will make spoiler talk more easy to tread around, while right now it's a bunch of unwritten hearsay.

If this thread led to that policy getting instituted here, then this thread would be even greater. :)
 
I'm sticking to the last few pages because I'd rather not see Thanos beforehand but I can see how this thread has gone and I find it hilarious. Must've been a great battle. I feel like a lot of blood has been spilled here.

What's the argument about exactly?

If something is officially announced it shouldn't be considered a spoiler.

I have a feeling this thread is going to set some interesting precedent for TV threads. There are a lot of official casting/character announcements that are spoiler tagged in TV threads until the episode has aired.

The argument in this thread seems to be that if it's been officially announced, it's ok to post without tags.

I'm ok with that. But I also won't go out of my way to post the information in thread titles. So I'll go out of my way to appease the spoiler sensitive but I don't really think they should be up in arms if they are spoiled about something that has been officially revealed by production.
 
My simple rule of thumb for what constitutes a spoiler: information the filmmakers/distributor don't want made public prior to the release of the film. In this case, Marvel announced Thanos in GotG in a press release and brought the actor to a convention. They've been talking about it openly for a while.

What's really unfair is to somehow put it on everyone else to know what information you have absorbed, and what you would like to avoid. We don't know what slice of the PR you've picked up on, nor should we. If you don't want to absorb public information, don't read public message boards prior to the release of the movie.


I understand both sides, I guess my real complaint is why has PR become a spoiler fest in these comic book movies. I guess it come with the fan base. I like to be surprised sometimes, I really missed the announcements for this movie. Also I couldn't avoid it, it was in the thread title lol.
 
"To challenge them... is to court death."


Replace Wakanda with NeoGAF, and baby, you got a stew going!

If this thread led to that policy getting instituted here, then this thread would be even greater. :)

Let's do this!

I understand both sides, I guess my real complaint is why has PR become a spoiler fest in these comic book movies. I guess it come with the fan base. I like to be surprised sometimes, I really missed the announcements for this movie. Also I couldn't avoid it, it was in the thread title lol.

You haven't heard dick when it comes to this movie, trust me :p
 
If something is officially announced it shouldn't be considered a spoiler.

I have a feeling this thread is going to set some interesting precedent for TV threads. There are a lot of official casting/character announcements that are spoiler tagged in TV threads until the episode has aired.

The argument in this thread seems to be that if it's been officially announced, it's ok to post without tags.

I'm ok with that. But I also won't go out of my way to post the information in thread titles. So I'll go out of my way to appease the spoiler sensitive but I don't really think they should be up in arms if they are spoiled about something that has been officially revealed by production.
What about the people who haven't really been following news like that? Seems a bit unfair to them. I didn't personally know he was in the movie because I've been purposefully ignoring all news about it. I've only seen the first trailer even but this spoiler doesn't bother me because I assumed he would be involved in some way. I'm not super familiar with their universe so I was just guessing.

I'm not one to respond to spoilers myself but I see how someone could get a little pissed seeing it right there in the title.
 
What about the people who haven't really been following news like that? Seems a bit unfair to them. I didn't personally know he was in the movie because I've been purposefully ignoring all news about it. I've only seen the first trailer even but this spoiler doesn't bother me because I assumed he would be involved in some way. I'm not super familiar with their universe so I was just guessing.

I'm not one to respond to spoilers myself but I see how someone could get a little pissed seeing it right there in the title.
You are not avoiding spoilers. You are avoiding all information. That's a media blackout. No one else is responsible for ensuring the content you have avoided (intentionally or not!) remains unknown to you until after you have seen the film.

Ignoring all information about a movie leading up to its release (casting, speculation, press announcements, star appearances, Q&A panels, etc) is not a community effort. That's something you embark on alone. By calling this thread title a spoiler, you are not indicating a failure of this community but a failure in your own behavior in miscalculating the possible transgression of a rule you have set for yourself.

It is not our fault you have invented your own meaning for a defined word.
 
Here's a fun experiment. When Thanos is revealed, see if anyone in the theatre gets excited as if he didn't know he was in the movie.

Good idea. We should set up a poll for whether or not people consider Thanos a spoiler, all without spoiling them about Thanos of course.
 
What about the people who haven't really been following news like that? Seems a bit unfair to them. I didn't personally know he was in the movie because I've been purposefully ignoring all news about it. I've only seen the first trailer even but this spoiler doesn't bother me because I assumed he would be involved in some way. I'm not super familiar with their universe so I was just guessing.

I'm not one to respond to spoilers myself but I see how someone could get a little pissed seeing it right there in the title.

Like I said though, how is one supposed to even talk about something like this. Putting something like *spoilers for GoTG* in the title makes it seem to other people like huge plot twists are being revealed when its not at all. The point is that people are not going to let these crazy complete media blackout people ruin discussion for other people. People act like others are being inconsiderate, but the true inconsiderate people are those who expect others to bow down to their every whim. Seriously if something actually has a PR release it is not a spoiler in the slightest. If you don't want press releases spoiled, stay off the internet because that's literally the point of a press release.
 
Someone spoiled that Ultron is going to be in the next Avengers movie. Which mod do I contact to ensure he gets banned?

Think someone made that joke a couple pages back.

You're implying that this movie is called Thanos of the Galaxy or something...
 
You are not avoiding spoilers. You are avoiding all information. That's a media blackout. No one else is responsible for ensuring the content you have avoided (intentionally or not!) remains unknown to you until after you have seen the film.

Ignoring all information about a movie leading up to its release (casting, speculation, press announcements, star appearances, Q&A panels, etc) is not a community effort. That's something you embark on alone. By calling this thread title a spoiler, you are not indicating a failure of this community but a failure in your own behavior in miscalculating the possible transgression of a rule you have set for yourself.

It is not our fault you have invented your own meaning for a defined word.

Like I said though, how is one supposed to even talk about something like this. Putting something like *spoilers for GoTG* in the title makes it seem to other people like huge plot twists are being revealed when its not at all. The point is that people are not going to let these crazy complete media blackout people ruin discussion for other people. People act like others are being inconsiderate, but the true inconsiderate people are those who expect others to bow down to their every whim. Seriously if something actually has a PR release it is not a spoiler in the slightest,
Hmm. I guess. It's touchy I suppose but I can still see why people could be mad. The fact that marvel announced it causes me to lean toward this being non-spoiler territory though.

Curious to read the rest of this thread after tomorrow.
 
See, what would be a spoiler is to detail his involvement in this film

LIKE I'M ABOUT TO D-*is banned*

The famous one is The Phantom Menace, whose soundtrack came out a couple of weeks before the movie with tracks called Qui-Gon's Noble End and Qui-Gon's Funeral. That's a legitimate spoiler and I can understand people being pissed off at having a major character death in the first Star Wars movie for 16 years revealed, but there are people on GAF who think listening to the music is a spoiler.

Da fuck? Who thinks that?

Someone edit the pic to say "This is what happens when you post spoilers on NeoGAF."

Paging PhotoshopGAF
 
Mentioning Thanos being in The Avengers, before it came out, would have been a spoiler. This is not. Even showing what he looks like isn't a spoiler. Nothing about the OP is a spoiler.

Now, if I were to say (HYPOTHETICAL GOTG SPOILERS)
Adam Warlock emerges from the cocoon in The Collector's lair in the post-credits scene
, THAT would be a spoiler.

Also, how funny would it be if that turns out to be right.
 
What about the people who haven't really been following news like that?

If they're exercising the personal responsibility (and good on 'em for that, really) to "purify" their first viewing experience to that extent, then they need to re-evaluate the lengths to which they need to go to keep that first viewing the purest. It's a matter of better managing whatever impulse control problems one might have, and deciding whether to accept that or double down even harder on curating the list of what outlets/communities you can visit.

If the studio itself is putting it out there, if the directors/writers are discussing it openly, and (to a lesser extent) if people who have seen the movie can cop to whether or not the characters mere existence doesn't necessitate a plot point in and of itself? It's not only not a spoiler, it's something the people involved with making the movie don't have a problem with you knowing. It's not going to affect the enjoyment of the film, in their eyes. It's information they actually WANT you to know. They're specifically putting it out there.

Whether you agree with them or not is a "me" thing, not a "rest of the world" thing, yunno?

Consideration is being thrown about in this conversation, and consideration is a key thing to keep in mind, definitely. But another thing to keep in mind is perspective, and I think what's annoying so many people is lack of both those things.

FOR EXAMPLE: I've read some Doctor Who scripts for season 8, and I've seen the workprint of the 1st episode. There is discussion going on in that thread regarding people's hopes & wishes for characterization in the new season. Now I COULD, if I wanted to, attempt to vaguely assuage some of those fears, and confirm some of those hopes. But out of consideration, I'm not even going to attempt being slick about it, because when you boil it down, what I'm trying to do is figure out a way to spoil without spoiling for the sake of the conversation. I'm trying to find a considerate way to be inconsiderate, essentially. So I'm just not going to bring it up or discuss it at all.

And what makes it easier to come to that decision is the knowledge that, at the end of the day, this is disposable entertainment that I have no financial or personal investment in creating. It's just a thing I consume, and in the case of TV, a thing I didn't even PAY to consume. It's just there. No matter how much fun/enjoyment I get out of Guardians, or Doctor Who, or Hannibal, whatever, it's still just a piece of fiction. It's not really that important. And since it's not really that important, it's not worth it to engage in behavior that I know is going to lead to a big, long, drawn-out, butt-clenching fight.

When people knee-jerk complain that an actor has been announced as appearing in a movie as a certain character, and their first thought is to attempt to shame the person who is trying to have a conversation about it, there's a lack of perspective in play, and combine that with any percieved lack of consideration, we're going to end up at this thread sooner rather than later.

Da fuck? Who thinks that?

I've had this pop up in previous "the Nature of Spoilers" conversations before.
 
Not enough, IMO. I want a graveyard.

Also DAMN YOU FEIGE, DAMN YOU TO HELL

I shall give you...Half of the Universe!


Seriously, people can be really silly about spoilers. I mean even if you aren't familiar with the comics you can put two and two together. Thanos and the Chitauri were from space, Guardians of the Galaxy is in space, everyone name dropping Thanos, Nebula and Gamora. I mean come on does shit need to walk up and slap people in the faces before they see it.

Anyways he looks pretty good, I mean, yup its Thanos. I want to see him flying around in his chari now and trolling people though.
 
If they're exercising the personal responsibility (and good on 'em for that, really) to "purify" their first viewing experience to that extent, then they need to re-evaluate the lengths to which they need to go to keep that first viewing the purest. It's a matter of better managing whatever impulse control problems one might have, and deciding whether to accept that or double down even harder on curating the list of what outlets/communities you can visit.

If the studio itself is putting it out there, if the directors/writers are discussing it openly, and (to a lesser extent) if people who have seen the movie can cop to whether or not the characters mere existence doesn't necessitate a plot point in and of itself? It's not only not a spoiler, it's something the people involved with making the movie don't have a problem with you knowing. It's not going to affect the enjoyment of the film, in their eyes. It's information they actually WANT you to know. They're specifically putting it out there.

Whether you agree with them or not is a "me" thing, not a "rest of the world" thing, yunno?

Consideration is being thrown about in this conversation, and consideration is a key thing to keep in mind, definitely. But another thing to keep in mind is perspective, and I think what's annoying so many people is lack of both those things.

FOR EXAMPLE: I've read some Doctor Who scripts for season 8, and I've seen the workprint of the 1st episode. There is discussion going on in that thread regarding people's hopes & wishes for characterization in the new season. Now I COULD, if I wanted to, attempt to vaguely assuage some of those fears, and confirm some of those hopes. But out of consideration, I'm not even going to attempt being slick about it, because when you boil it down, what I'm trying to do is figure out a way to spoil without spoiling for the sake of the conversation. I'm trying to find a considerate way to be inconsiderate, essentially. So I'm just not going to bring it up or discuss it at all.

And what makes it easier to come to that decision is the knowledge that, at the end of the day, this is disposable entertainment that I have no financial or personal investment in creating. It's just a thing I consume, and in the case of TV, a thing I didn't even PAY to consume. It's just there. No matter how much fun/enjoyment I get out of Guardians, or Doctor Who, or Hannibal, whatever, it's still just a piece of fiction. It's not really that important. And since it's not really that important, it's not worth it to engage in behavior that I know is going to lead to a big, long, drawn-out, butt-clenching fight.

When people knee-jerk complain that an actor has been announced as appearing in a movie as a certain character, and their first thought is to attempt to shame the person who is trying to have a conversation about it, there's a lack of perspective in play, and combine that with any percieved lack of consideration, we're going to end up at this thread sooner rather than later.
I think metalslimer made a better point about how one should even talk about news like this. For instance, technically the Wonderwoman constume reveal was a spoiler since a casual observer wouldn't even know she was in the movie. From that lens I can see how calling things like this a "spoiler" is pretty touchy.
 
Question.

I've seen TV shows have a sneak peak of the next episode at the end of the current episode, and they are always spoiler tagged here because a few people tend to stop watching when the credits role.

Is that considered spoiler?
 
Question.

I've seen TV shows have a sneak peak of the next episode at the end of the current episode, and they are always spoiler tagged here because a few people tend to stop watching when the credits role.

Is that considered spoiler?
Yea I've seen people get PISSED about those getting spoiled, lol. Also depends on the show.
 
Question.

I've seen TV shows have a sneak peak of the next episode at the end of the current episode, and they are always spoiler tagged here because a few people tend to stop watching when the credits role.

Is that considered spoiler?

Yes because sneak peaks at the next episode (unless they are mad men) always show some kind of spoiler happening. The comparison here would be if someone decided to reveal plot information. It's also possible to discuss those things pretty easily with spoiler tags.
 
The brightness on his face kinda makes it hard to make out details, but I like his costume.
Yes, continue to sustain me with spoiler-anger
Hey, if you want to go on a media blackout, be our guest. Don't shit up threads here with your spoiler nonsense. You can include NeoGAF as part of your media blackouts from now on if you like. It's really getting fucking annoying.
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