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Report claims Nintendo management scheming to get rid of Iwata

I don't think there is space for premium pricing titles on mobile platforms. So I'm not sure being there would do a whole lot for them.

But they make such amazing games that it's a shame they are being held back by poor hardware. Their games should be on Xbox/PS/PC in my opinion. By not releasing games there, they are leaving money on the table.
 
It's about time.

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Source? Iwata is up 3% from last year in shareholder credibility as a president and the media have been softer on Nintendo lately all because he did right moves. Read the annual report, read the articles and you'll notice. Also the moto that Nintendo games play on Nintendo hardware is a long standing company policy. Everyone knows that the higher ups in Nintendo don't want to allow their software anywhere else.

The second part of your post is laughable so allow me to not respond.

Considering how far his approval rating dropped we have a long way to go before you can say he is making good moves. Right now Mario Kart is doing a good job, because the game is amazing, we have yet to see if there is enough in the tank though to bring Iwata's approval back to where it was in 2011.
 
Nintendo's quirky, unique corporate culture is something management don't want to get rid of.

Iwata treads lightly...he nudges the company here and there instead of gutting everything and slashing and burning. It helps that Mr. Iwata is a game developer as opposed to a ruthless businessman who is only concerned with financials.

Some people are scared that a replacement...especially a non-Nintendo replacement...would destroy Nintendo's uniqueness for the sake of short-term gains. The worry is that the short-term gains would lead to a long-term burnout.

And Iwata has ideas for growing the company and reversing the negative financial trends...like QOL, M&A, integrated hardware development, etc. He's trying to preserve the company and reverse Nintendo's current situation...a very difficult task to accomplish.

The question is who can run Nintendo---a very, very unique company---any better than Mr. Iwata can? Forget about the success of the Wii and the DS. Forget about the relative failure of the 3DS and Wii U. Is there anyone who is better equipped to lead the company at this point in time than him?
Great post, breakout success stories under pressure like the DSi and Wii just aren't possible if the CEO isn't able to make mistakes or bet on a wrong horse from time to time. And changing Nintendo current situation takes time, where is the CEO that will get Nintendo profitable in a short amount of time without selling out and firing a bunch of staff?

I warm has a more difficult task because he also wants to preserve what Nintendo has been standing for as a independent hardware and software manufacturer.
 
But they make such amazing games that it's a shame they are being held back by poor hardware. Their games should be on Xbox/PS/PC in my opinion. By not releasing games there, they are leaving money on the table.

I think that all your PS4 / X1 exclusives should be on PC cause they are being held back by poor hardware.
How is asking for an entire publisher's library to be available on your hardware of choice not the most glorified port-beg ever?

Considering how far his approval rating dropped we have a long way to go before you can say he is making good moves. Right now Mario Kart is doing a good job, because the game is amazing, we have yet to see if there is enough in the tank though to bring Iwata's approval back to where it was in 2011.

His approval is going up right now. With the upcoming games it is bound to go further up.
 
http://playeressence.com/the-rumor-...ent-wanting-to-get-rid-of-iwata-is-100-false/

the source of the rumor saying Nintendo managers wanting to get Iwata fired came from NEOGAF. This 100%, without a shadow of a doubt, debunks that rumor.

First, check the source of the article, it leaks back to a gaf post in the Nintendo Financials thread. One of the best examples of a GAF–>Internet–>GAF posts we’ll see.

The fuck? The rumor came from a Japanese business site.

Why does this site think Neogaf is the "source" of the rumor?
 
What a load of shit. Everyone will have ups and downs, that's life. You don't have to forfeit principles to be successful. It's sometimes just persevering and waiting it out.

Plus some of the best games have been ok'd by him.
 
The question is who can run Nintendo---a very, very unique company---any better than Mr. Iwata can? Forget about the success of the Wii and the DS. Forget about the relative failure of the 3DS and Wii U. Is there anyone who is better equipped to lead the company at this point in time than him?
This is an excellent question (and I'm not even a fan of Iwata).
 
I think that all your PS4 / X1 exclusives should be on PC cause they are being held back by poor hardware.
How is asking for an entire publisher's library to be available on your hardware of choice not the most glorified port-beg ever?

We are discussing the business side here. and Nintendo's business is being severely held back by being on platforms a lot of people don't want to buy.

In contrast, the Playstation and Xbox businesses are doing just fine as it is. SCE and MGS can afford to keep their games on one platform only.
 
I don't think there is space for premium pricing titles on mobile platforms. So I'm not sure being there would do a whole lot for them.

But they make such amazing games that it's a shame they are being held back by poor hardware. Their games should be on Xbox/PS/PC in my opinion. By not releasing games there, they are leaving money on the table.

Lol, Sony and MS are leaving money on the table too. They should release all their games on PC and mobile platforms! Why only Nintendo? What a ridiculous thing to say.
Talking about business side? Last I checked Sony and MS lost billions of money with their PS3/Xbox/360 business. So no, they are not doing "just fine". Especially Sony as a whole are not doing "just fine". They are FAR from fine.
 
And this at times were Iwata's health is already bad. That's really not nice. (・_-。 )

I hope they don't get their wish fulfilled.
 
Lol, Sony and MS are leaving money on the table too. They should release all their games on PC and mobile platforms! Why only Nintendo? What a ridiculous thing to say.
This is a very common thing to read - Nintendo and only Nintendo is dumb by not putting their games on mobile and PC.
 
I don't think there is space for premium pricing titles on mobile platforms. So I'm not sure being there would do a whole lot for them.

But they make such amazing games that it's a shame they are being held back by poor hardware. Their games should be on Xbox/PS/PC in my opinion. By not releasing games there, they are leaving money on the table.

They would be broke at this point, just being on those consoles doesn't mean they'll make more money. Someone that loves Uncharted isn't going skip it for Zelda, Metroid or Smash. Sega couldn't match MK8 sales with they're on karts racer on a single console. MK8 will eventually outsell it LTD.
 
We are discussing the business side here. and Nintendo's business is being severely held back by being on platforms a lot of people don't want to buy.

In contrast, the Playstation and Xbox businesses are doing just fine as it is. SCE and MGS can afford to keep their games on one platform only.
I don't know why this keeps popping up.

They would only stand to lose money by moving to other platforms. Hardware is over 40% of their business. The royalties they would pay would dwarf any additional sales made.

This shit is thinly veiled port begging, get the fuck out.
 
We are discussing the business side here. and Nintendo's business is being severely held back by being on platforms a lot of people don't want to buy.

In contrast, the Playstation and Xbox businesses are doing just fine as it is. SCE and MGS can afford to keep their games on one platform only.

Actually both their gaming divissions are doing shit, but it's good they have other divissions that make money to sustain them. Sony is a bit better because PS4 sells relatively good but both do not do good with the gaming divissions.
I still insist that this is stealth port begging. Before it was because the games are being held back by poor hardware and now because the console does not sell good.
 
Lol, Sony and MS are leaving money on the table too. They should release all their games on PC and mobile platforms! Why only Nintendo? What a ridiculous thing to say.

They are not releasing their games on PC and mobiles to make people buy their hardware. When people have their hardware and buy third-party games they make royalties that far surpass the money they lose by releasing their own games only on their own systems. Nintendo, on the other hand, makes almost no money from third-party games, so they are much more reliant on their own software than Sony and MS. They give up much more money by not releasing games on PC/Xbox/PS than the extra money they make from third party games on their platform.
 
For as much as people say "without Iwata, everything will go wrong!", people seem to actively forget that it was his company that saw one of Nintendo's weakest period with respect to consistent game localization, and the fact that he built the Wii and DS on the Evergreen platform - AKA, a platform that is bad for all gamers and good only for Nintendo.
 
They had it coming with the Wii U, the blame lies on the board of directors whom approved a once again underpowered piece of hardware without a most effective gimmick to make up for it. That said, if their point is to take him out to make room for MariOS, then going third party wouldn't be so bad in comparison.
 
For people who are saying that I'm port begging, why are you saying this? You want to get me banned or what? Port begging is about shitting up game specific threads by begging for ports to your platform of choice. In a thread specifically about criticism against Iwata for, among other things, not releasing games on more platforms, it is a valid topic to discuss. If you don't want to be confronted with the possibility of Nintendo releasing on other platforms, you should get off the Internet, because with how bad they are doing right now, we are going to see a lot more discussion about it in the years to come.

I'm sure you have done the math.

Fair enough. Insert "very likely, although I haven't done the maths" wherever applicable in my post.
 
The question is who can run Nintendo---a very, very unique company---any better than Mr. Iwata can? Forget about the success of the Wii and the DS. Forget about the relative failure of the 3DS and Wii U. Is there anyone who is better equipped to lead the company at this point in time than him?
How does every other company not named Nintendo survive? If businesses were about being run by 1 person, I think they would have all failed by now.

Whether who would take over, I can't really answer that. However, I'm sure there are many candidates. Look at when Microsoft looked for a CEO, there wasn't a shortage of who could replace Ballmer.

I also think it would be extremely bizarre if Nintendo had never thought about a replacement/successor.

I watched a show called Dragon's Den and someone pitched their product. The investor asked if he had any partners or colleges who could take over and the guy said no. The investor was angry and said he doesn't want to work him. When asked why, the investor said "well, if you get hit by a Bus tomorrow, your company is finished".

I'm hoping Nintendo, a company with billions of dollars and hundreds of years of history, is smarter than this.
 
They are not releasing their games on PC and mobiles to make people buy their hardware. When people have their hardware and buy third-party games they make royalties that far surpass the money they lose by releasing their own games only on their own systems. Nintendo, on the other hand, makes almost no money from third-party games, so they are much more reliant on their own software than Sony and MS. They give up much more money by not releasing games on PC/Xbox/PS than the extra money they make from third party games on their platform.

Yep, I see it has been working out for Sony really well. Do you think the results of the missing years, 2011-2013, will cover the huge losses they have made? Take a good guess.

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Graph from Melchiah.
 
I am sure there's money in releasing games on smartphones, but the quality and scale of their games will be heavily limited by the control options available.

And I honestly believe that after the fad of 'Mario on smartphones' is over, sales would drop and Nintendo's other offerings would fall by the wayside, in the same way third party games flop on Nintendo platforms.

That's why I'd rather they continue to create for their own hardware. Nintendo creating games for Xbox and Playstation wouldn't be a bad thing at all though, because they'd still be able to offer the sort of content and quality we've come to expect from them, and they will still have the support of their current audience, as opposed to smartphone users who move on quickly.

I fully support Iwata's vision for the company, and hope he doesn't bend to pressure.
 
Sounds dubious if you ask me.

It's still sad as hell because I don't see a future for Nintendo with the current industry's audience and it's squarely on Nintendo. If Iwata is replaced it'll be by a bunch of short term thinkers that are willing to flush that $50-60 prestige of Nintendo's right down the toilet for bite size $1-5 experiences that even Apple regrets pushing all these years. Unfortunately current Nintendo has no way forward either with Iwata running the company like the entire gaming world revolves around Japan's tastes on both the hardware and software front which is some straight ignorant point of view. This doesn't even touch on digital or people's communication preferences which Microsoft, Sony and Valve seem to understand.

The world's greatest and most iconic videogame software company has decided they may as well be playing russian roulette each successive generation when they've been poised to take the entire gaming audience and the only voice of opposition may possibly be even more shortsighted in their attempt to jump under Apple's ecosystem for safety.
 
App store development is too volatile to sustain half of Nintendo's business. I don't doubt they'd be able make a place for themselves at the table, but there is too much competition to expect any security. Just look at how Rovio's growth hit a wall when Angry Bird's popularity started to wane. The problem with app store development as of right now is that there's no middle class: either you have a hit, or you have a flop. Nintendo's mid-tier (1-5 million units per title) titles today, such as Kirby, Fire Emblem, hell even most Zelda titles can't exist on the app store because they just don't sell enough to be profitable at a considerably lower selling point. I think Nintendo will have success releasing Pokemon or Mario, but at the same time I also don't think that success will last. Once the shininess wears off, people will move on to the next big thing. That's what happens when you have the largest selection of games on any platform as competition.

Think of it this way: people on GAF look at the Wii as a flash in the pan that was as successful as it was because it was carried by a fad: Wii Sports. From what I noticed, it's generally considered unreasonable to consider Nintendo ever repeating that success, as they "caught lighting in a bottle". At least right now, with the app store market being as unstable as it is, expecting Nintendo, or any developer, to have long-term success making games on the app store is like expecting them to have a "Wii Sports" every year.

Good point.

If Nintendo gave up on hardware and went third party, you'd be much more likely to see most of their franchises on PlayStation, Xbox, and PC. That seems to be where most of the audience is that would actually pay for Nintendo's games. I already said earlier, if it came down to that, I'd much rather buy Nintendo's games on Steam than my phone.

That is just it though, I think Nintendo IP has enough clout to get its own appstore for nintendo products. Hell I think they could get their own Tablet hardware and make it only available to that specific tablet, while still allowing the tablet to do everything else non-Nintendo. They can have their cake and eat it too, imo. I think google would get in on that.

That would require actual third party support, not only with game developers, but general mobile developers.
 
Its better to invest in mobile before your alternate revenue streams crater. That just makes business sense. If you only start after your business goes to shit, your gonna be sitting around losing money for a while.
"invest in mobile"?

The platform is literally built around not needing to invest in it to be successful. There is almost 0 spinup costs associated with mobile development.

The only thing Nintendo investment in mobile could/should be necessary for is on the hardware side of things.
 
For people who are saying that I'm port begging, why are you saying this? You want to get me banned or what? Port begging is about shitting up game specific threads by begging for ports to your platform of choice. In a thread specifically about criticism against Iwata for, among other things, not releasing games on more platforms, it is a valid topic to discuss. If you don't want to be confronted with the possibility of Nintendo releasing on other platforms, you should get off the Internet, because with how bad they are doing right now, we are going to see a lot more discussion about it in the years to come.



Fair enough. Insert "very likely, although I haven't done the maths" wherever applicable in my post.

When someone can find an example of going third-party that's been a win-win I'll support it. Because it's obvious that Sony and Microsoft thought it was a worthy cause to go hardware then be software only on consoles.

SNK, Atari, Sega, Panasonic, NEC and Hudson Soft(TurboGFX 16), Where are they now?
 
Nintendo's quirky, unique corporate culture is something management don't want to get rid of.

Iwata treads lightly...he nudges the company here and there instead of gutting everything and slashing and burning. It helps that Mr. Iwata is a game developer as opposed to a ruthless businessman who is only concerned with financials.

Some people are scared that a replacement...especially a non-Nintendo replacement...would destroy Nintendo's uniqueness for the sake of short-term gains. The worry is that the short-term gains would lead to a long-term burnout.

And Iwata has ideas for growing the company and reversing the negative financial trends...like QOL, M&A, integrated hardware development, etc. He's trying to preserve the company and reverse Nintendo's current situation...a very difficult task to accomplish.

The question is who can run Nintendo---a very, very unique company---any better than Mr. Iwata can? Forget about the success of the Wii and the DS. Forget about the relative failure of the 3DS and Wii U. Is there anyone who is better equipped to lead the company at this point in time than him?

Yea a typical businessman would go whole hog on mobile, jack up the stock price and then sell to the highest bidder.
 
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