Church cancels man's funeral because his obit mentioned he was gay. (G/A/F?)

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Sad and pointless. Heartache caused for no reason other than to be spiteful. At least the person who narced on this was undoubtedly old, as who but old busybodies would read the print obituaries these days anyway, and they will be in the ground themselves soon.
 
Clearly the christian thing to do.

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LMAO
 
Not quite the worst story I've heard about how someone's been treated post-death because they're gay, but a startling step closer, especially in a developed nation. Good job pastor.
 
This shit drives me crazy because Jesus said all sorts of bad things about divorce . . . or as he called it "adultery". And if you married a divorced person then you are an adulterer too.

Would this guy refuse to bury a divorced person? Of course not. Oh and what did Jesus say about gay people? Not a fucking word.


Edit: But on the other hand . . . keep it up, religion, you are just killing yourself off.
 
Has a single person who says 'I follow the Bible' in defense of their awful habits actually read the thing? Because they're always full of shit.
 
No, see, because God is perfect, infallible and omnipotent anything that God supports or condemns is unquestionably correct.

ah of course.

i would still like god's input on the whole thing, you know, just a one off special appearance, colbert is a practising christian i hear. i'm sure god has time in the infinity of existence he occupies; just to clear up a few of those things that might have been miscommunicated over the years.
 
I will never understand the pick and choose attitude of some Christians. As I was taught since I was little, sin is sin. There is no big sin and no little sin. It's all the same. They have the right to refuse the funeral for whatever reason. It's just horrible timing and seems very unchristlike.
 
Not quite the worst story I've heard about how someone's been treated post-death because they're gay, but a startling step closer, especially in a developed nation. Good job pastor.

The pastor isn't punishing the deceased. He's punishing his friends, family, and anyone that feels sadness over his death.

He's a piece of shit. As are the people who called in to demand a stranger's funeral be cancelled.
 
While I don't think generalizing is good, I'm legitimately never surprised about these stories of religious hate. Religion is one heck of a facilitator for hate and awful acts, that's just how it is.
 
I wonder if they also deny people who contributed to either Jimmy Swaggart or Jim Bakker, given that they would have committed the sin of adulation?

Do they also deny adulterers? Extorters? Those who exhibit extreme anger? Fornicators? Masturbators? Perjurers? Prostitutes? Rapists? Usurers? Given that it's Florida... those who participate in bestiality or incest?

Have they also progressed past the mortal sins into the venal sins and therefore deny those who have lost partial grace or who have been imperfectly contrite?
 
A lot of churches don't deal with certain people. I know a church around me refused to bury a rapist and a pedophile once. Its not as uncommon as people here say it is for a pastor to say no.

Its their ground. Its their service. Take him to a church who doesn't care or cremate him. Slipping him through seems kinda dumb.
 
A lot of churches don't deal with certain people. I know a church around me refused to bury a rapist and a pedophile once. Its not as uncommon as people here say it is for a pastor to say no.

Its their ground. Its their service. Take him to a church who doesn't care or cremate him. Slipping him through seems kinda dumb.

Gay people are definitely comparable to rapists and pedophiles. That was definitely a good example.

Edit: thanks, mods. <3
 
A lot of churches don't deal with certain people. I know a church around me refused to bury a rapist and a pedophile once. Its not as uncommon as people here say it is for a pastor to say no.

Its their ground. Its their service. Take him to a church who doesn't care or cremate him. Slipping him through seems kinda dumb.
Here we fucking go.
 
A lot of churches don't deal with certain people. I know a church around me refused to bury a rapist and a pedophile once. Its not as uncommon as people here say it is for a pastor to say no.

Its their ground. Its their service. Take him to a church who doesn't care or cremate him. Slipping him through seems kinda dumb.

First of all, this guy was not a criminal and good luck with that horrendous comparison. Second of all, they did not try and slip him through.
 
I think the best example to use in this case is the story of Jesus and the prostitute.

So here, we have the situation of Simon, a Pharisee who welcomes Jesus into his home. He sees Jesus&#8217; signs of healing and teaching and seeks to understand this Jesus who is causing a sensation wherever he goes.

This woman, discovering Jesus was at the Pharisee's house, sought Jesus out, slipping into this home without an invitation. At that time, people were crowding around Jesus wherever he went. Had this woman encountered Jesus previously? Perhaps she met him before or witnessed something he said or did. Either way, she somehow recognizes who he is.

The Pharisee is hospitable to Jesus but only half-heartedly. It must have been customary to offer water to honored guests to wash their feet before they came into a house since people at that time wore sandals and walked on dirt roads. And it also must have been customary to greet your guests with a kiss and anoint them with oil as a sign of honor and respect.

Being a Pharisee, Simon had studied since he was a young man and devoted himself to follow the Law and its traditions to the letter. Highly respected by his community, he is filled with pride and arrogance, analyzing everything with intellectual skepticism and control. He also knew all the Biblical laws broken by this woman that made her so sinful. She is his polar opposite. Uneducated of any religious knowledge she is scorned because of her sinfulness, her life run by her feelings and impulses. Just by being female she is a 2nd class citizen. She pours her heart out to Jesus in humility with only her belief in him. By contrast, Simon is cold and restrained toward her and Jesus, smug in his self-righteousness.

In this room full of people, this woman comes behind a reclining Jesus at his feet. She is too ashamed to look him eye to eye, but out of fear and humility, she cowers behind him on the ground, weeping, saying nothing, but honoring him the only way she could.

"What is SHE doing here?" Simon must have thought. Even though it is the woman coming to Jesus, he uses this to discredit him, saying to himself that if he really is a prophet, he would know this woman is a sinner and would never let her touch him, let alone cry on him. Simon found this scenario appalling and embarrassing. The room must have been hushed except for the woman's sobbing. Jesus gives Simon an opportunity to understand the vast difference between him and this woman, by telling him the parable.

&#8220;Simon, I have something to say to you.&#8221; And he replied, &#8220;Say it, Teacher.&#8221;

&#8220;A certain moneylender had two debtors: one owed five hundred denarii and the other fifty. &#8220;When they were unable to repay, he graciously forgave them both. Which of them therefore will love him more?&#8221; Simon answered and said, &#8220;I suppose the one whom he forgave more.&#8221; And He said to him, &#8220;You have judged correctly.&#8221; Turning toward the woman, he said to Simon:

&#8220;Do you see this woman? I entered your house; you gave me no water for my feet, but she has wet my feet with her tears, and wiped them with her hair. &#8220;You gave me no kiss, but she, since the time I came in, has not ceased to kiss my feet. &#8220;You did not anoint my head with oil, but she anointed my feet with perfume. &#8220;For this reason I say to you, her sins, which are many, have been forgiven, for she loved much; but he who is forgiven little, loves little.&#8221; And he said to her, &#8220;Your sins have been forgiven.&#8221;

Pharisees especially did not come into physical contact with Gentiles and sinners because their sin or something unclean they may have touched would transfer to them and defile them. By allowing this woman to touch him, Jesus has taken her sin onto himself and has cleansed her through his forgiveness. She didn&#8217;t ask for forgiveness. Jesus forgave her sins because that was what she needed. No one else forgave her, which is why she had her reputation. She might even have been kept out of the temple, unable to worship God. People branded her thus trapping and labeling her for the rest of her life. They were not allowing any way out for this woman who made mistakes in her life.

And Jesus beholds her make-up smeared face of mud and perfume and looking into her swollen eyes he says,&#8220;Your faith has saved you; go in peace.&#8221;

This immoral woman, whom everyone thought was the lowest of the low, was accepted by Jesus because she loved him. She didn&#8217;t say anything to Jesus, she didn&#8217;t change her ways before presenting herself, and neither did she take a vow to be perfect. She probably didn't even know what she wanted from Him. And Jesus doesn't ask anything of her.

What the "church" (and I use this term loosely) did was despicable both morally and ethically. You don't cancel a loved one's funeral the last minute. Seeing things like this really upsets me as a Christian, because we are supposed to advocate for love and acceptance. There are some churches that accept gay people, as they should, and I believe they are the ones that truly understand the concept of Christinanity.


BTW:
I also really think that we should remove tax exemption from all religious institutions.
 
Gay people are definitely comparable to rapists and pedophiles. That was definitely a good example.

While I did take the time to review and list out all the Christian mortal sins and while you did not respond to me specifically, I do want to emphasize that I was not equating things and at least on my part have no intention of doing so. I very much have the intention of pointing out how all over the board the definition of even mortal sin is within the Christian church and had the intention of pointing out that some of them (like jerking off) are ridiculous things that I'm more than certain every member of their congregation have committed while others are actual heinous shit.
 
While I did take the time to review and list out all the Christian mortal sins and while you did not respond to me specifically, I do want to emphasize that I was not equating things and at least on my part have no intention of doing so. I very much have the intention of pointing out how all over the board the definition of even mortal sin is within the Christian church and had the intention of pointing out that some of them (like jerking off) are ridiculous things that I'm more than certain every member of their congregation have committed while others are actual heinous shit.

Don't worry, your post didn't come off that way.
 
The church and this ¨man of God¨ should really be ashamed. You didn't have to treat them this way, but decided you would.

I'm amazed at so many people who call themselves Christians that follow Jesus, but hold so much hate in their heart. Jesus preached love/forgiveness/helping one another, but you wouldn't think that with a lot of them.
 
I have read the bible and I'm 100% certain that its message isn't "love all".
It's certainly not, and not even Jesus is consistent with his message, but he's still the closest when it comes to altruism. Not to mention he said shit all about gay people.
 
Wow. Canceling the funeral on the day before is ice cold. Just unbelievably callous. It would have been wrong to cancel it in any event, but the timing is just heinous.
 
So only saints can receive a proper funeral? Everyone you've ever served was some sort of beacon of righteousness in the eyes of the Lord, unmarred by any sin throughout the entirety of their lives? Oh wait, no. Only homosexuality is the truly bad sin. All others are completely forgivable.

What a farce.
You don't need a church for a proper funeral.

Fuck their beliefs though. Fucking bigots.
 
I mean, even if you decide that Jesus disapproved of gays and that they're some kind of enemy of morality... what happened to "love thy enemy" and "love thy neighbor as thyself"?
 
Couldn't they have just held the services without talking about how gay the deceased was, let the family talk about that side in their eulogies, and the pastor can stick his fingers in his ears if he needs to.

Just mind-blowingly nasty how the church has behaved.
 
The only shock in this article would have been finding out that it wasn't Florida for once. It's not G/A/F anymore, it's N/E/S/W Florida.
 
If being gay is a sin then the funeral should go out of business or only accept children under 1 because everyone has sinned.

Unless sins go by scores and gays automatically get like a bajillion points.
I'm gay, atheist and talk shit about god is that a new highscore?
 
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