The Covenant invades Helgan.

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I admit I don't know a lot about Killzone. But if Covenant from halo invaded them who would win? I know covenant can glass but hellgan has those lightning attacks.
 
Those lightning anti air guns could do only so much


then again post ShadowFall showed that the Helghast have that new weapon made from the planets core energy
 
The Covenant would destroy Helgan from orbit. Glassing is a common tactic. Pretty sure most if not all of the technology the Covenant possesses greatly outclasses Helgan technology.
 
The Covenant covers a nontrivial part of the Milky Way Galaxy, has access to superfast FTL travel, and has swarms of enormous space ships that can devastate planets fairly easily. Most of its equipment, including elite soldiers, utilize some kind of shielding that seem to work fairly well at deflecting traditional ballistic weapons. Their main weakness is that they're a bit dumb and nothing we see in Halo games seems to indicate they're all that effective at conventional warfare beyond "bomb everything from Orbit". Like their ground vehicles are a bit shitty, honestly.

The Helghast were at their peak the owners of like, 1 planet. Even if they achieved a remarkable 20:1 kill to death ratio in space battles, they would still lose control of their orbital space. And I repeat, they do not have shields, and none of the weapons we've seen them use seem to put them in the same league as what goes on in Haloverse. I'm not even sure if they have FTL drives, although I am not an expert on KZ lore. They would then initiate orbital bombardment and destroy all large military formations on the planet. This is based on the generous assumption that they want most of the planet "in tact" for some reason. Because otherwise they would just burn the whole planet in less than 24 hours with giant space death rays.

The covenant stomp them. This is not a reflection of which series is "better" or anything, they just aren't on the same scale. The Covenant in turn get roflstomped by the Galactic Empire of Star Wars, who get stomped by any number of species in the Culture series. I think there's some high end Xeelee saga shit too, and the Time Lords from Dr Who win most things because lol time travel.
 
If the Covenants glassed Helgan, could Halo go down and skate on it if he was bored?

Halo's pretty good at everything else, he'd probably do it really well.
 
waypoetic said:
What is the Covenant?

#TeamPlayStation
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Space muppets that yell like chipmunks when they get stepped on.
 
Not a fair fight. The sheer power of destruction of Covenant fleet is scary as hell. If they want to destroy your planet, they can.
 
ThoseDeafMutes said:
The Covenant covers a nontrivial part of the Milky Way Galaxy, has access to superfast FTL travel, and has swarms of enormous space ships that can devastate planets fairly easily. Most of its equipment, including elite soldiers, utilize some kind of shielding that seem to work fairly well at deflecting traditional ballistic weapons. Their main weakness is that they're a bit dumb and nothing we see in Halo games seems to indicate they're all that effective at conventional warfare beyond "bomb everything from Orbit". Like their ground vehicles are a bit shitty, honestly.

The Helghast were at their peak the owners of like, 1 planet. Even if they achieved a remarkable 20:1 kill to death ratio in space battles, they would still lose control of their orbital space. And I repeat, they do not have shields, and none of the weapons we've seen them use seem to put them in the same league as what goes on in Haloverse. I'm not even sure if they have FTL drives, although I am not an expert on KZ lore. They would then initiate orbital bombardment and destroy all large military formations on the planet. This is based on the generous assumption that they want most of the planet "in tact" for some reason. Because otherwise they would just burn the whole planet in less than 24 hours with giant space death rays.

The covenant stomp them. This is not a reflection of which series is "better" or anything, they just aren't on the same scale. The Covenant in turn get roflstomped by the Galactic Empire of Star Wars, who get stomped by any number of species in the Culture series. I think there's some high end Xeelee saga shit too, and the Time Lords from Dr Who win most things because lol time travel.
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Zelda.
 
ThoseDeafMutes said:
The Covenant covers a nontrivial part of the Milky Way Galaxy, has access to superfast FTL travel, and has swarms of enormous space ships that can devastate planets fairly easily. Most of its equipment, including elite soldiers, utilize some kind of shielding that seem to work fairly well at deflecting traditional ballistic weapons. Their main weakness is that they're a bit dumb and nothing we see in Halo games seems to indicate they're all that effective at conventional warfare beyond "bomb everything from Orbit". Like their ground vehicles are a bit shitty, honestly.

The Helghast were at their peak the owners of like, 1 planet. Even if they achieved a remarkable 20:1 kill to death ratio in space battles, they would still lose control of their orbital space. And I repeat, they do not have shields, and none of the weapons we've seen them use seem to put them in the same league as what goes on in Haloverse. I'm not even sure if they have FTL drives, although I am not an expert on KZ lore. They would then initiate orbital bombardment and destroy all large military formations on the planet. This is based on the generous assumption that they want most of the planet "in tact" for some reason. Because otherwise they would just burn the whole planet in less than 24 hours with giant space death rays.

The covenant stomp them. This is not a reflection of which series is "better" or anything, they just aren't on the same scale. The Covenant in turn get roflstomped by the Galactic Empire of Star Wars, who get stomped by any number of species in the Culture series. I think there's some high end Xeelee saga shit too, and the Time Lords from Dr Who win most things because lol time travel.
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The Helghast do have shielding.... We see it in KZ3... Plus with Stahl's involvement they went from spaceship shielding to even soldier shielding later on in Killzone ShadowFall


(Heck there is even wall shielding via devices and the OWL)
Also the Petrusite bomb is planetary devastation
 
TheRealTalker said:
The Helghast do have shielding.... We see it in KZ3... Plus with Stahl's involvement they went from spaceship shielding to even soldier shielding later on in Killzone ShadowFall


(Heck there is even wall shielding via devices and the OWL)
Also the Petrusite bomb is planetary devastation
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Do they have any shielding in Killzone 2? I don't remember seeing anything on tanks, vehicles etc. I did play it a long time ago. At any rate, if you want to pit the Hellghast circa KZ:SF against them, the odds are actually worse regardless of new shielding tech they might be using, because they have even less territory, population and soldiers than they used to.
 
Halo universe tech is centuries ahead. This is less fair than a Spaniards vs Incas deal.

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Also, the big difference between the two probably comes down to this being a fight between a group of several civilizations against one.
 
ThoseDeafMutes said:
Do they have any shielding in Killzone 2? I don't remember seeing anything on tanks, vehicles etc. I did play it a long time ago. At any rate, if you want to pit the Hellghast circa KZ:SF against them, the odds are actually worse regardless of new shielding tech they might be using, because they have even less territory, population and soldiers than they used to.
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Shielding was in it prototype stage in KZ2 so we didn't see it in action


The Helghast still have a large base in Helghan in the SF timeline.... lots of drone weapons to boot
From air drones to animal like drones to insect drones
Plus they have these bad boys.... which is similar to the Covenant walker in Halo 2... but bigger
Kz_sf_mawlr.png

they can live in harsh conditions if they please


Edit: The Helghast also have cloaking and teleporting
 
TheRealTalker said:
Shielding was in it prototype stage in KZ2 so we didn't see it in action


The Helghast still have a large base in Helghan in the SF timeline.... lots of drone weapons to boot
From air drones to animal like drones to insect drones
Plus they have these bad boys.... which is similar to the Covenant walker in Halo 2... but bigger
Kz_sf_mawlr.png

they can live in harsh conditions if they please


Edit: The Helghast also have cloaking and teleporting
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I'm not sure if that's going to help them; large, ship-based covenant plasma weapons are equivalent to nuclear strikes. If they can't control orbit, they can't hold off the invasion. And I feel like I must remind you that the Covenant is orders of magnitude larger than the Hellghast. While those large walkers are indeed impressive looking, the largest covenant warships are 30 kilometers long by 11 kilometers wide. The Covenant's industrial base is enormous simply because they span a galaxy! This isn't a fair fight.
 
ThoseDeafMutes said:
I'm not sure if that's going to help them; large, ship-based covenant plasma weapons are equivalent to nuclear strikes. If they can't control orbit, they can't hold off the invasion. And I feel like I must remind you that the Covenant is orders of magnitude larger than the Hellghast. While those large walkers are indeed impressive looking, the largest covenant warships are 30 kilometers long by 11 kilometers wide. The Covenant's industrial base is enormous simply because they span a galaxy! This isn't a fair fight.
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the covenant may have a larger stock of weapons available but the tech of Helghan vs the tech of the covenant can be argued....

there is also a number of other colonized planets that they Helghan can seek refuge in other then Earth, and Vekta

Edit: Also the helghast space fleet is uber powerful


We mostly see warships in the series but Colonial ships are overly massive beyond belief... to get a sense you should visit the Killzone Lore thread
 
Without knowing anything from both universes, just reading a couple of posts, is a galaxy spawing FTL civ versus a single planet one. There is no contest. Hell, the only thing that the covenant must do is crash one of their massive ships at near light speed into the planet. 30x10x10 km ship going at the speed of light is probably going to wipe out most of the system.
 
ThoseDeafMutes said:
The Covenant covers a nontrivial part of the Milky Way Galaxy, has access to superfast FTL travel, and has swarms of enormous space ships that can devastate planets fairly easily. Most of its equipment, including elite soldiers, utilize some kind of shielding that seem to work fairly well at deflecting traditional ballistic weapons. Their main weakness is that they're a bit dumb and nothing we see in Halo games seems to indicate they're all that effective at conventional warfare beyond "bomb everything from Orbit". Like their ground vehicles are a bit shitty, honestly.

The Helghast were at their peak the owners of like, 1 planet. Even if they achieved a remarkable 20:1 kill to death ratio in space battles, they would still lose control of their orbital space. And I repeat, they do not have shields, and none of the weapons we've seen them use seem to put them in the same league as what goes on in Haloverse. I'm not even sure if they have FTL drives, although I am not an expert on KZ lore. They would then initiate orbital bombardment and destroy all large military formations on the planet. This is based on the generous assumption that they want most of the planet "in tact" for some reason. Because otherwise they would just burn the whole planet in less than 24 hours with giant space death rays.

The covenant stomp them. This is not a reflection of which series is "better" or anything, they just aren't on the same scale. The Covenant in turn get roflstomped by the Galactic Empire of Star Wars, who get stomped by any number of species in the Culture series. I think there's some high end Xeelee saga shit too, and the Time Lords from Dr Who win most things because lol time travel.
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In the end the Time Lords are stomped by the Down Streamers.
 
Dopus said:
They can do it from orbit too.

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the Helghast will just use petrusite missles on them

it will be a battle of which shielding would hold longer... unless troops from either side siege the ships

Still the Covenant will win in the long run due to having more resources that the Helghast must deplete
 
I always confuse the bad guys in halo with the bad guys from Gears of War and vice versa.

Anyway, I'm rooting for the Helghasts. #longlivevisari
 
The Covenant, without question. A single Covenant fleet is as destructive as the Death Star, and even if accelerator cannons can down one ship, the others will be able to destroy the planet.
 
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