Ferguson: Police Kill 18yo Black Male; Fire Gas/Rubber Bullets Into Protesting Crowds

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Bundy Ranch is a damn good point. Ranchers vowing to protect "their" property by use of weapons is less frightening than black people at a prayer vigil.

Were the Bundy Ranchers ever called an angry mob?

Did watch the infamous Bundy video?

The officers were most definitely scared for their lives, and used attack dogs against a man on video.

The crowd was in a frenzy, and I am more than sure they were called worse than "a mob", considering how the progressive media painted them as dangerous militia instead of protesters.
 
Summary of the witness account of what transpired:

Dorian Johnson & #MikeBrown were walkin in the street, police rolls up, says "get the f—k on the sidewalk,” <-- as told by Dorian Johnson

They continue walkin after telling the officer they were almost @ their destination. But the officer slammed brakes & threw truck in reverse

Officer says “what’d you say?” & attempted to thrust his door open but the door slammed into #MikeBrown and bounced closed

From there, Johnson says the officer grabbed #MikeBrown around the throat & Brown was pulling away. Officer says "im going to shoot you"

Officer shoots #MikeBrown while holding him, blood seeps onto his shirt. Brown & Johnson start running. Brown yells, "keep running, bro"

I don’t have a gun, stop shooting!”- #MikeBrown's last words
 
Raw unedited account of what the Missouri police officer did when he gunned down Michael Brown in Ferguson: http://www.cbc.ca/player/News/World/ID/2485993968/

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That video makes my blood boil. Just executing a guy in broad daylight? And for what? Again, because he failed to obey your every command? Why does defiance in black youth bring out such a murderous rage in the gun-toting population, police or otherwise?

I really hope this goes to trial, the witness' testimony should easily put this guy away.
 
Did watch the infamous Bundy video?

The officers were most definitely scared for their lives, and used attack dogs against a man on video.

The crowd was in a frenzy, and I am more than sure they were called worse than "a mob", considering how the progressive media painted them as dangerous militia instead of protesters.

I see no riot gear and I see a bunch of people walking towards officers, while being told to back up.

No one being called animals, no tear gas, no rubber bullets, NO ARRESTS and this all the while actually verbally being threatened.

I'm sorry, but this is white privilege at it's finest. "Stay back, sir."

"OOOO THE HUMANITY, THE BRUTALITY!!!! NOOOOO"

"Get back you fucking animals!!!"

"Well, they're in a live situation and fear for their lives. Accepted police procedure states that...."
 
That video makes my blood boil. Just executing a guy in broad daylight? And for what? Again, because he failed to obey your every command? Why does defiance in black youth bring out such a murderous rage in the gun-toting population, police or otherwise?

I really hope this goes to trial, the witness' testimony should easily put this guy away.

Question for the ages. I think its years and years of racism ingrained, otherizing and creating an image that black men and women are 'violent' and 'different' so in their minds their defiance is a threat and a signal they're gonna upset 'the way things are'

Its evident its racial because white middle class resistance is just 'teenager being teenagers'. I never fear this as a white dude.
 
That video makes my blood boil. Just executing a guy in broad daylight? And for what? Again, because he failed to obey your every command? Why does defiance in black youth bring out such a murderous rage in the gun-toting population, police or otherwise?

I really hope this goes to trial, the witness' testimony should easily put this guy away.

Not when they manufacture a story to destroy his credibility and find way to arrest him.

See Also: Ramsey Orta, Chrissie Ortiz
 
From what I have heard form the police side this is pretty accurate. I think this cop is hosed.

Just to have a little faith in humanity, I really have to hold out some allowance for the idea that this account may be at least slightly embellished. Not because I'm compelled to take a moderate stance or because I have blind faith in all police officers, mind you, but that account just makes the cop sound comically evil. If that account is even mostly true, then holy shit.
 
Just to have a little faith in humanity, I really have to hold out some allowance for the idea that this account may be at least slightly embellished. Not because I'm compelled to take a moderate stance or because I have blind faith in all police officers, mind you, but that account just makes the cop sound comically evil. If that account is even mostly true, then holy shit.

The Eric Garner killing, no wait, the NYPD as a whole show the culpability to be comically evil.
 
Just to have a little faith in humanity, I really have to hold out some allowance for the idea that this account may be at least slightly embellished. Not because I'm compelled to take a moderate stance or because I have blind faith in all police officers, mind you, but that account just makes the cop sound comically evil. If that account is even mostly true, then holy shit.

I think there is probably clear embellishment going on. Mainly with the calm compliance and explanations by Brown and his friend. But I bet it probably went as stated with the only difference being "get the fuck off the road!" being met with something more like "we're fucking almost home" and the door probably being pushed of off them when it was opened into them.

But we live in a world where this happens...

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So the actions of the officer don't sound too exaggerated to me, just the calm of Brown and his friend if anything.
 
So you would have preferred to have had tear gas shot into a crowd of an angry mob with guns?

Huh? No, I'm not advocating use of teargas. I don't think you're understanding the point of the comparison between the Bundy ranch incident and this Ferguson thing. It's about appropriate levels of response.
 
Just to have a little faith in humanity, I really have to hold out some allowance for the idea that this account may be at least slightly embellished. Not because I'm compelled to take a moderate stance or because I have blind faith in all police officers, mind you, but that account just makes the cop sound comically evil. If that account is even mostly true, then holy shit.

This is 2nd hand info circulating from other people on the force. But it pretty much lines up with what the kid said

Officer stopped car in middle of the street, tried to get out, door was pushed back (or bounced off) officer grabbed Brown, gun went off, brown injured, ran a short distance then stopped, cop exited car and fired 8 more shots.

Again not official but not far off from the witness.
 
Because government funded schools tend to not focus on when the government fucks up.

Oh, it's not just public schools. I grew up in Tulsa, and went to private catholic schools. All we were taught in our history about about slavery and its fallout was that slavery happened, Lincoln freed the slaves, and MLK Jr. defeated racism. They might have mentioned Rosa Parks in there.

It wasn't until I was long out of college and married for years that I even heard about the Tulsa riots. Possibly the biggest and worst incident of mass racial violence in American history happened in my home town, and NOBODY there ever mentioned it. Not my history classes, not the television, not the adults, NOBODY.

Denial in this country runs as deep as racism.
 
Also, GAF, gotta say thanks. Feel way more informed about this from reading the thread than hearing about it anywhere else. Might not sound like a complete moron when discussing it with people now.
 
Not really relevant.

I'm not saying in any way use it, but that's the response that'll be given by most when asked why not there. Just applying an illogical way of thinking as a defense since that's pretty much what'll happen.

Actually it is. See, I have been tear gassed and you can't focus on anything more than the OH DEAR GOD MAKE IT STOP of it all. You wouldn't have the facilities to shoot until you adapted and by then your ass would be cuffed on the ground. In pokemon terms, that shit is super effective. So yes, it make a hell of a lot more sense to toss it at the people with guns. They use it in hostage situations too, ya know.

Oh, it's not just public schools. I grew up in Tulsa, and went to private catholic schools. All we were taught in our history about about slavery and its fallout was that slavery happened, Lincoln freed the slaves, and MLK Jr. defeated racism. They might have mentioned Rosa Parks in there.

It wasn't until I was long out of college and married for years that I even heard about the Tulsa riots. Possibly the biggest and worst incident of mass racial violence in American history happened in my home town, and NOBODY there ever mentioned it. Not my history classes, not the television, not the adults, NOBODY.

Denial in this country runs as deep as racism.

I like you too.
 
This is 2nd hand info circulating from other people on the force. But it pretty much lines up with what the kid said

Officer stopped car in middle of the street, tried to get out, door was pushed back (or bounced off) officer grabbed Brown, gun went off, brown injured, ran a short distance then stopped, cop exited car and fired 8 more shots.

Again not official but not far off from the witness.

What the fuck, what the fuck was the officer thinking?
 
Actually it is. See, I have been tear gassed and you can't focus on anything more than the OH DEAR GOD MAKE IT STOP of it all. You wouldn't have the facilities to shoot until you adapted and by then your ass would be cuffed on the ground. In pokemon terms, that shit is super effective. So yes, it make a hell of a lot more sense to toss it at the people with guns. They use it in hostage situations too, ya know.

Didn't say I agreed with what I was saying, simply was stating what people would say as reasoning. Just because it's wrong doesn't mean people won't say it.
 
Got it. Tone doesn't convey well across a text based medium.

Yeah I gotcha.

As for the eye witness stuff, I'm hesitant to believe it just because it would obviously be heavily bias, just like I wouldn't believe any of the cops defending him. So pretty much it's just whatever people choose to believe because I doubt the full truth will actually come out. Cop was obviously in the wrong, it's just a matter of how it went down that I'm skeptical of.
 
What the fuck, what the fuck was the officer thinking?

If it's accurate, maybe he panicked.

"Dead men tell no tales".

Though I guess witnesses do. But with this assumption, maybe he figured his word would be believed more so than the word of the witnesses.

The entire situation is unbelievably shitty regardless.
 
Summary of the witness account of what transpired:

Found one with some more detail.

FERGUSON, Missouri — The last moments of Michael Brown’s life were filled with shock, fear and terror, says a witness who stood just feet away as a police officer shot and killed the unarmed teen.

“I saw the barrel of the gun pointed at my friend,” said Dorian Johnson, 22. “Then I saw the fire come out of the barrel.”

Johnson, in an exclusive interview with msnbc, said what began as an order by a police officer to ‘get the f— onto the sidewalk’ quickly escalated into a physical altercation and then, gunfire.

“I could see so vividly what was going on because I was so close,” said Johnson, who said he was within arm’s reach of both Brown and the officer when the first of several shots was fired at the teen. Johnson says he feared for his life as he watched the officer squeezing off shot after shot.

Brown’s killing on Saturday afternoon has sparked protests and rioting in this small, hardscrabble suburb of St. Louis, where tensions continue to rise between the police and the largely black, mostly poor community. Brown’s shooting lifted the lid on a pot that had long been bubbling .

The police say the officer shot Brown after the teen shoved the officer and tried to wrestle the officer’s gun from him. But a number of witnesses, including Johnson, refute those claims. And in the wake of the shooting, the Ferguson Police Department has asked the St. Louis County police to step in and take over the investigation.

Meanwhile, the identity of the police officer involved in the shooting has not yet been identified. It is known, however, that the officer who shot Brown has been placed on paid administrative leave.

But as darkness fell over Ferguson on Monday, ongoing protests were stifled by rubber bullets and tear gas fired at protesters by officers, according to witnesses.

Local branches of the NAACP have called on the Justice Department and federal and state law enforcement officials to take over the investigation from local police. The FBI has joined the investigation and the Justice Department has said it is keeping an eye on the case. Attorney General Eric Holder on Monday said that the FBI will help local authorities undertake a “thorough, fair investigation.”

For its part, Brown’s family has hired local attorney Anthony Gray and Benjamin Crump, a civil rights attorney who represented the family of Trayvon Martin.

“That baby was executed in broad daylight,” Crump said during a press conference Monday afternoon, standing beside Brown’s mother and father. Crump told a crowd of several dozen that Brown was shot and left in the road like an animal.

“He was a good boy who didn’t deserve any of this,” said Michael Brown Sr., the teen’s father.

“I just wish I could have been there to help my son,” the boy’s mother, Leslie McSpadden said through tears.

On Monday, McSpadden and Brown’s father had planned to drop Brown off at a nearby technical college for the start of his freshman year. Instead, the family is making burial arrangements.

“We can’t even celebrate because we have to plan a funeral,” McSpadden said.
Johnson, who said he moved into the neighborhood about eight months ago, said he met Brown three months ago and the two became fast friends.

“Everyone else’s mentality be on some nonsense, silliness,” Johnson said. “But Mike had his mind set on more than that, helping others. I just got a good feeling from being around him.”

About 20 minutes before the shooting, Johnson said he saw Brown walking down the street and decided to catch up with him. The two walked and talked. That’s when Johnson says they saw the police car rolling up to them.

The officer demanded that the two “get the f—k on the sidewalk,” Johnson says. “His exact words were get the f—k on the sidewalk.”

After telling the officer that they were almost at their destination, Johnson’s house, the two continued walking. But as they did, Johnson says the officer slammed his brakes and threw his truck in reverse, nearly hitting them.

Now, in line with the officer’s driver’s side door, they could see the officer’s face. They heard him say something to the effect of, “what’d you say?” At the same time, Johnson says the officer attempted to thrust his door open but the door slammed into Brown and bounced closed. Johnson says the officer, with his left hand, grabbed Brown by the neck.

“I could see the muscles in his forearm,” Johnson said. “Mike was trying to get away from being choked.”

“They’re not wrestling so much as his arm went from his throat to now clenched on his shirt,” Johnson explained of the scene between Brown and the officer. “It’s like tug of war. He’s trying to pull him in. He’s pulling away, that’s when I heard, ‘I’m gonna shoot you.’”
At that moment, Johnson says he fixed his gaze on the officer to see if he was pulling a stun gun or a real gun. That’s when he saw the muzzle of the officer’s gun.
“I seen the barrel of the gun pointed at my friend,” he said. “He had it pointed at him and said ‘I’ll shoot,’ one more time.”

A second later Johnson said he heard the first shot go off.

“I seen the fire come out of the barrell,” he said. “I could see so vividly what was going on because I was so close.”

Johnson says he was within arm’s reach of both Brown and the officer. He looked over at Brown and saw blood pooling through his shirt on the right side of the body.

“The whole time [the officer] was holding my friend until the gun went off,” Johnson noted.
Brown and Johnson took off running together. There were three cars lined up along the side of the street. Johnson says he ducked behind the first car, whose two passengers were screaming. Crouching down a bit, he watched Brown run past.

“Keep running, bro!,” he said Brown yelled. Then Brown yelled it a second time. Those would be the last words Johnson’s friend, “Big Mike,” would ever say to him.
Brown made it past the third car. Then, “blam!” the officer took his second shot, striking Brown in the back. At that point, Johnson says Brown stopped, turned with his hands up and said “I don’t have a gun, stop shooting!”

By that point, Johnson says the officer and Brown were face-to-face. The officer then fired several more shots. Johnson described watching Brown go from standing with his hands up to crumbling to the ground and curling into a fetal position.

“After seeing my friend get gunned down, my body just ran,” he said. He ran to his apartment nearby. Out of breath, shocked and afraid, Johnson says he went into the bathroom and vomited. Then he checked to make sure that he hadn’t also been shot.
Five minutes later, Johnson emerged from his apartment to see his friend Mike dead and in the middle of the street. Neighbors were gathering, some shouting, some taking pictures with their cell phones.

Freeman Bosley, Johnson’s attorney, told msnbc that the police have yet to interview Johnson. Bosley said that he offered the police an opportunity to speak with Johnson, but they declined.

“They didn’t even want to talk to him,” said Bosley, a former mayor of St. Louis. “They don’t want the facts. What they want is to justify what happened … what they are trying to do now is justify what happened instead of trying to point out the wrong. Something is wrong here and that’s what it is.”

Johnson says he understands why the tension has boiled over into violence. As the protests seeking justice in Brown’s death have grown larger and more volatile, Johnson says he has joined them.

“There are two crowds. An older crowd that wants justice but there’s anger. Then it’s the younger crowd that wants revenge but there’s anger there, too,” Johnson said. “What do you expect when something is steadily occurring and its hurting the community and nobody is speaking out or doing anything about it. I feel their anger, I feel their disgust.”

Freeman Bosley, Johnson’s attorney, told msnbc that the police have yet to interview Johnson. Bosley said that he offered the police an opportunity to speak with Johnson, but they declined.

Freeman Bosley, Johnson’s attorney, told msnbc that the police have yet to interview Johnson. Bosley said that he offered the police an opportunity to speak with Johnson, but they declined.

Fuck this.

Source: http://www.msnbc.com/msnbc/eyewitness-michael-brown-fatal-shooting-missouri
 
What the fuck, what the fuck was the officer thinking?

More than likely the first shot would have easily ended his career and his freedom. He shouldn't have drew his fire arm in the first place. It discharged, accidentally or purposely. Cop reacts, thinking that killing Mike Brown would help his case. It would be a he said she said case, cop wins in court. REASONABLE DOUBT.
 
Freeman Bosley, Johnson’s attorney, told msnbc that the police have yet to interview Johnson. Bosley said that he offered the police an opportunity to speak with Johnson, but they declined.

Freeman Bosley, Johnson’s attorney, told msnbc that the police have yet to interview Johnson. Bosley said that he offered the police an opportunity to speak with Johnson, but they declined.

Fuck this.
Jesus fucking Christ.
 
Found one with some more detail.



Freeman Bosley, Johnson’s attorney, told msnbc that the police have yet to interview Johnson. Bosley said that he offered the police an opportunity to speak with Johnson, but they declined.

Freeman Bosley, Johnson’s attorney, told msnbc that the police have yet to interview Johnson. Bosley said that he offered the police an opportunity to speak with Johnson, but they declined.

Fuck this.

Source: http://www.msnbc.com/msnbc/eyewitness-michael-brown-fatal-shooting-missouri

You gotta be kidding me. This was straight up murder. Mods need to change the title again to reflect what really happened.
 
Found one with some more detail.



Freeman Bosley, Johnson’s attorney, told msnbc that the police have yet to interview Johnson. Bosley said that he offered the police an opportunity to speak with Johnson, but they declined.

Freeman Bosley, Johnson’s attorney, told msnbc that the police have yet to interview Johnson. Bosley said that he offered the police an opportunity to speak with Johnson, but they declined.

Fuck this.

Source: http://www.msnbc.com/msnbc/eyewitness-michael-brown-fatal-shooting-missouri

Im already sitting but I need to sit down.

Jesus fuck
 
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