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[OG_Original Gamer]

Found one with some more detail.



Freeman Bosley, Johnson’s attorney, told msnbc that the police have yet to interview Johnson. Bosley said that he offered the police an opportunity to speak with Johnson, but they declined.

Freeman Bosley, Johnson’s attorney, told msnbc that the police have yet to interview Johnson. Bosley said that he offered the police an opportunity to speak with Johnson, but they declined.

Fuck this.

Source: http://www.msnbc.com/msnbc/eyewitness-michael-brown-fatal-shooting-missouri

Fuck, sitting here trying to contain my emotions. This hurts.

 

[The Lamonster]

Found one with some more detail.



Freeman Bosley, Johnson’s attorney, told msnbc that the police have yet to interview Johnson. Bosley said that he offered the police an opportunity to speak with Johnson, but they declined.

Freeman Bosley, Johnson’s attorney, told msnbc that the police have yet to interview Johnson. Bosley said that he offered the police an opportunity to speak with Johnson, but they declined.

Fuck this.

Source: http://www.msnbc.com/msnbc/eyewitness-michael-brown-fatal-shooting-missouri

god damn

 

[Malyse]

Fuck, sitting here trying to contain my emotions. This hurts.

Real talk. I'm glad everyone is at lunch because I work with all white people and I don't want to explain why I'm sitting at my desk crying.

 

[KarmaCow]

Fuck, sitting here trying to contain my emotions. This hurts.

I usually avoid these threads for that reason. It just gets me too angry, especially when people try to defend heinous shit like in the Christy Mac thread.

 

[jamesinclair]

So I just searched Ferguson on reddit.

Results:

We got control over /r/Ferguson, /r/FergusonRiots and /r/FergusonRiot (self.GreatApes)

I dont even.

Nuke reddit from orbit.

 

[Flo_Evans]

So I just searched Ferguson on reddit.

Results:



I dont even.

Nuke reddit from orbit.

If you want someone to follow https://twitter.com/AntonioFrench has been all over this story.

 

[Phoenix]

So you would have preferred to have had tear gas shot into a crowd of an angry mob with guns?

Sure why not. You're shooting unarmed teenagers, why not shoot into the crowd of people with ACTUAL weapons.

Just saying...

 

[DECK'ARD]

Found one with some more detail.



Freeman Bosley, Johnson’s attorney, told msnbc that the police have yet to interview Johnson. Bosley said that he offered the police an opportunity to speak with Johnson, but they declined.

Freeman Bosley, Johnson’s attorney, told msnbc that the police have yet to interview Johnson. Bosley said that he offered the police an opportunity to speak with Johnson, but they declined.

Fuck this.

Source: http://www.msnbc.com/msnbc/eyewitness-michael-brown-fatal-shooting-missouri

Fuckin hell.

Don't even know what to say.

 

[Jeff-DSA]

Sure why not. You're shooting unarmed teenagers, why not shoot into the crowd of people with ACTUAL weapons.

Just saying...

The problem is that if you shoot tear gas into an armed crowd, you could very easily set off a panic situation that escalates into a full on gunfight.

Tear gas was probably not appropriate for either situation.

 

[Steve Youngblood]

You gotta be kidding me. This was straight up murder. Mods need to change the title again to reflect what really happened.

Not to be overly cautious or suggest any doubt of the validity of this witness's account, but for the time being I'm going to leave the title as is. "Kill" is accurate either way, and I'd rather not come into this thread just to see meta-commentary about the thread title. And by that, I just mean that if someone finds a different account, I don't want time being wasted in the thread discussing whether the title needs to keep being changed back and forth. "I found this story wherein a witness describes Brown fighting against the officer. Mods should change this title." "Here's another witness describing the cop as Judge Dredd. Title needs to be updated."

And to be clear, I don't mean to say this to sound annoyed by your suggestion. I'm just saying that I feel like the title does what it needs to for now.

 

[MIMIC]

What year is it again?

 

[Sho_Nuff82]

If it's accurate, maybe he panicked.

"Dead men tell no tales".

Though I guess witnesses do. But with this assumption, maybe he figured his word would be believed more so than the word of the witnesses.

The entire situation is unbelievably shitty regardless.

So power tripping asshole trying to get his rocks off while the rest of the department covers his ass.

Protect and serve indeed.

Found one with some more detail.



Freeman Bosley, Johnson’s attorney, told msnbc that the police have yet to interview Johnson. Bosley said that he offered the police an opportunity to speak with Johnson, but they declined.

Freeman Bosley, Johnson’s attorney, told msnbc that the police have yet to interview Johnson. Bosley said that he offered the police an opportunity to speak with Johnson, but they declined.

Fuck this.

Source: http://www.msnbc.com/msnbc/eyewitness-michael-brown-fatal-shooting-missouri

More than likely the first shot would have easily ended his career and his freedom. He shouldn't have drew his fire arm in the first place. It discharged, accidentally or purposely. Cop reacts, thinking that killing Mike Brown would help his case. It would be a he said she said case, cop wins in court. REASONABLE DOUBT.

The longer they wait to interview the witness and get an official statement, the more they can instill reasonable doubt due to lapses in memory or any inconsistencies in the story. The longer they wait before indicting the officer, the less scrutiny they have to give to the crime scene, the discharged weapon, and the vehicle in question. A lot can change in a week with a piece of evidence. We've seen this played out before.

 

[Malyse]

The problem is that if you shoot tear gas into an armed crowd, you could very easily set off a panic situation that escalates into a full on gunfight.

Tear gas was probably not appropriate for either situation.

Have you ever been tear gassed?

 

[CrankyJay]

Read that msnbc article...so fucked up...shot him in the back.

 

[Jeff-DSA]

Have you ever been tear gassed?

Yep.

As soon as it gets fired, someone is going to panic. It's scary. If you're in the middle of it, you're mostly incapacitated or compelled to flee or disperse. If you're on the edges, you could very well just panic and decide to shoot. It's just a messy way to disperse a crowd that affects each individual there differently.

 

[jamesinclair]

The longer they wait to interview the witness and get an official statement, the more they can instill reasonable doubt due to lapses in memory or any inconsistencies in the story. The longer they wait before indicting the officer, the less scrutiny they have to give to the crime scene, the discharged weapon, and the vehicle in question. A lot can change in a week with a piece of evidence. We've seen this played out before.

I posted a story in the NYC thread about how a lady complained of improper police behavior. The officer made an illegal turn, almost hit her, and then cursed her out.

The investigation department waited 11 months to ask her to identify the officers photo.

 

[Tedesco!]

Have you ever been tear gassed?

I have.

 

[Malyse]

Yep.

As soon as it gets fired, someone is going to panic. It's scary. If you're in the middle of it, you're mostly incapacitated or compelled to flee or disperse. If you're on the edges, you could very well just panic and decide to shoot. It's just a messy way to disperse a crowd that affects each individual there differently.

That was a bunch of old people. I doubt they would react quick enough to be a threat.

 

[Elfforkusu]

Found one with some more detail.



Freeman Bosley, Johnson’s attorney, told msnbc that the police have yet to interview Johnson. Bosley said that he offered the police an opportunity to speak with Johnson, but they declined.

Freeman Bosley, Johnson’s attorney, told msnbc that the police have yet to interview Johnson. Bosley said that he offered the police an opportunity to speak with Johnson, but they declined.

Fuck this.

Source: http://www.msnbc.com/msnbc/eyewitness-michael-brown-fatal-shooting-missouri

Jesus christ.

I... don't know what to say.

 

[CrankyJay]

These cops are so fucking corrupt.

 

[Phoenix]

The longer they wait to interview the witness and get an official statement, the more they can instill reasonable doubt due to lapses in memory or any inconsistencies in the story. The longer they wait before indicting the officer, the less scrutiny they have to give to the crime scene, the discharged weapon, and the vehicle in question. A lot can change in a week with a piece of evidence. We've seen this played out before.

Its right out of the playbook of legal defense.

 

[Malyse]

The longer they wait to interview the witness and get an official statement, the more they can instill reasonable doubt due to lapses in memory or any inconsistencies in the story. The longer they wait before indicting the officer, the less scrutiny they have to give to the crime scene, the discharged weapon, and the vehicle in question. A lot can change in a week with a piece of evidence. We've seen this played out before.

I posted a story in the NYC thread about how a lady complained of improper police behavior. The officer made an illegal turn, almost hit her, and then cursed her out.

The investigation department waited 11 months to ask her to identify the officers photo.

The ACLU should sue the department on the shooting officer's behalf for denying him the right to a speedy trial. And they should sue only for enough to cover court costs so he doesn't get any damages.

Spoiler

I wish it worked that way.

 

[TheChocolateWar]

The longer they wait to interview the witness and get an official statement, the more they can instill reasonable doubt due to lapses in memory or any inconsistencies in the story. The longer they wait before indicting the officer, the less scrutiny they have to give to the crime scene, the discharged weapon, and the vehicle in question. A lot can change in a week with a piece of evidence. We've seen this played out before.

There are legal procedures before they can initiate the investigation. I wouldn't necessarily say that the existence of a delay necessitates corruption. Could it be the case? Sure, but we do not know if they have exhausted administrative requirements yet.

The ACLU should sue the department on the shooting officer's behalf for denying him the right to a speedy trial. And they should sue only for enough to cover court costs so he doesn't get any damages.

Spoiler

I wish it worked that way.

You wish uninterested parties could force your case before trial? Yeah, that kind of rule would not be abused at all PS: Speedy trial takes much longer than a few weeks to be violated.

 

[kirblar]

Is there a way for witnesses to contact the FBI directly and go over the local PD's head?

 

[Brolic Gaoler]

"I'm a white cop, nobody local with power will care if I shoot this black asshole."'

Or something.

Do we even know the race of the officer yet?

 

[CrankyJay]

Why are they protecting the cop's identity?

 

[Jeff-DSA]

Do we even know the race of the officer yet?

I haven't seen anything to confirm the race of the officer. We can be sure that he's a piece of trash, however.

 

[Phoenix]

Is there a way for witnesses to contact the FBI directly and go over the local PD's head?

Sure, you can contact the FBI by phone and on their website. Whether or not they DO anything is something entirely different. They don't have jurisdiction except in particular circumstances.

 

[Tripon]

Not to be overly cautious or suggest any doubt of the validity of this witness's account, but for the time being I'm going to leave the title as is. "Kill" is accurate either way, and I'd rather not come into this thread just to see meta-commentary about the thread title. And by that, I just mean that if someone finds a different account, I don't want time being wasted in the thread discussing whether the title needs to keep being changed back and forth. "I found this story wherein a witness describes Brown fighting against the officer. Mods should change this title." "Here's another witness describing the cop as Judge Dredd. Title needs to be updated."

And to be clear, I don't mean to say this to sound annoyed by your suggestion. I'm just saying that for now, I feel like the title does what it needs to for now.

No, that's understandable. Thank you for clarifying.

 

[Steve Youngblood]

Do we even know the race of the officer yet?

Well, I don't know if we know for sure, but we do know this:

The Ferguson Police Department has 53 total commissioned officers, three of whom are black and two of whom are other minorities; the rest are white, the police chief told the Los Angeles Times. Three of the officers are women and 50 are men, he said.

So, there's a 90% chance that the officer in question was white.

 

[TheChocolateWar]

Is there a way for witnesses to contact the FBI directly and go over the local PD's head?

Yes, you can call the local field office. They have an intake person for witnesses.

 

[Phoenix]

Why are they protecting the cop's identity?

Because someone may try to kill him if they know where he is. I know if someone killed my son in that manner, it wouldn't be outside the realm of possibilities.

 

[gutter_trash]

cops more interested in covering up their asses than doing the right thing

 

[Zoe]

Why are they protecting the cop's identity?

Probably to prevent vigilantism.

 

[depths20XX]

So Ferguson PD was supposed to speak at noon today but they've called it off.

 

[Malyse]

You wish uninterested parties could force your case before trial? Yeah, that kind of rule would not be abused at all PS: Speedy trial takes much longer than a few weeks to be violated.

I wish to stop the abuse of the legal system by those in positions of authority.

 

[Brolic Gaoler]

Why are they protecting the cop's identity?

I haven't seen anything to confirm the race of the officer. We can be sure that he's a piece of trash, however.

Not sure, but that's my point. Let's not start throwing shit around when we don't know yet.

Also news just said name won't be released unless charges come or a judge orders it.

 

[Mattlikewhoa]

Freeman Bosley, Johnson’s attorney, told msnbc that the police have yet to interview Johnson. Bosley said that he offered the police an opportunity to speak with Johnson, but they declined.

Freeman Bosley, Johnson’s attorney, told msnbc that the police have yet to interview Johnson. Bosley said that he offered the police an opportunity to speak with Johnson, but they declined.

Fuck this.

Source: http://www.msnbc.com/msnbc/eyewitness-michael-brown-fatal-shooting-missouri

My God...

...I need to sit down...

...Fuck!

 

[CrankyJay]

Because someone may try to kill him if they know where he is. I know if someone killed my son in that manner, it wouldn't be outside the realm of possibilities.

Probably to prevent vigilantism.

Too bad? Maybe this would be a good deterrent for cops to not shoot unarmed people in the back as they're running away.

 

[TheChocolateWar]

I wish to stop the abuse of the legal system by those in positions of authority.

By allowing anyone to abuse the legal system? I don't see how this is any better.

 

[NYCmetsfan]

Found one with some more detail.



Freeman Bosley, Johnson’s attorney, told msnbc that the police have yet to interview Johnson. Bosley said that he offered the police an opportunity to speak with Johnson, but they declined.

Freeman Bosley, Johnson’s attorney, told msnbc that the police have yet to interview Johnson. Bosley said that he offered the police an opportunity to speak with Johnson, but they declined.

Fuck this.

Source: http://www.msnbc.com/msnbc/eyewitness-michael-brown-fatal-shooting-missouri

When they interview him in a few days they'll question if he's not being influenced by the "community's reaction". Waiting a few days worsens his credibility which is exactly why they are not talking to him

 

[Malyse]

By allowing anyone to abuse the legal system? I don't see how this is any better.

You're conflating two separate concepts.

 

[gutter_trash]

Summary of the witness account of what transpired:

this is like 100x worse than I thought it was. The cop instigated the situation and fired at unarmed civilians

 

[jhmtehgamr20xx]

Two things coming out of this:

-- Sucks that we can see barely-hidden political leanings in every post claiming the cops are justified in any way here.

-- I do hope that the media latches onto the shocking militarization of the police force. My god.

1: The reprehensible bigotry certain posters have displayed knows no political boundaries. Democrat, Republican, Libertarian, Independent,...North, South, East, West....you can find that kind of bigotry anywhere.

2: They stand to gain more from minimizing all focus on that, so they probably won't.

 

[Kacho]

Too bad? Maybe this would be a good deterrent for cops to not shoot unarmed people in the back as they're running away.

Too bad? lol come on now.

 

[jamesinclair]

Well, I don't know if we know for sure, but we do know this:



So, there's a 90% chance that the officer in question was white.

If he were black they'd have announced it immediately

 

[Malyse]

this is like 100x worse than I thought it was. The cop instigated the situation and fired at unarmed civilians

read the other one. You'll feel even worse.

If he were black they'd have announced it immediately

Exactly. He's not being hung out to dry, so white.

 

[TheChocolateWar]

You're conflating two separate concepts.

Not really. You want to allow an uninterested NPO to file on behalf of a person in direct conflict with their own rights and against their best interests. How is that not an abuse of the legal system? How would you feel if you found out your parents had left you a nice house, but I decided to screw up your claim of title by intervening on your behalf and filing a faulty quiet title action, thus ultimately forcing you to lose the property. That would be horrible wouldn't it? And if you implement this kind of system, I would be more than happy to abuse it for personal gain.

 

[theignoramus]

...By different members of police

...Got called NIGGER LOVERS by different members of police

smmfh

#notallcops #justafewbadapples

 

[abuC]

Not sure, but that's my point. Let's not start throwing shit around when we don't know yet.

Also news just said name won't be released unless charges come or a judge orders it.

What we do know is an unarmed kid was killed and the cops are using the good ole "He reached for my gun" excuse, I've heard that one before -

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GVaU8qm2LhQ