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Yeah, but using that line of logic, shouldn't you argue that air and water are the same since they both share oxygen in their molecular construction?

Pull back far enough, everything is just made of molecules and atoms and so on until you get the smallest measurement of reality. Which also fits in with the show's mythos, actually. the whole "All is one" thing. But it makes the show more fully realized if you look at it from the lens of classical elements, where as if you look at it scientifically, you see a lot of inconsistancies or the characters not realizing their full potential.

Err...actually that does not follow my line of thinking at all.

Plasma is actually a form of matter. Solid, Gaseous and Liquid being the others (these actually mirror the Ancient Greek ideal of the elements pretty closely). A better argument would be that the other benders do not bend the states of matter, but specific representations of those states--I.E. earthbenders specifically bend 'earth' not solids.

And I should not have included that second statement, it was not entirely connected to the first (and it actually disputes assertions made in there).

The point I was making though is simple: all the other benders simply manipulate matter, firebenders incite and manipulate reactions by introducing heat energy into the air. Basic firebending, combustion bending and lightningbending all 'make sense' if we look at it this way.

Yes it is silly, but it makes the most 'sense' if that is what one sets out to make of a children's cartoon.
 
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I just finished watching Fullmetal Alchemist Brotherhood.

If you haven't seen it yet (like myself, I was late to the party), I'd HIGHLY recommend you guys go watch it. Haven't enjoyed a TV series this much since the original Avatar TLA. WOW that was great.

And it's on Netflix, so that's nice. I'd highly highly recommend it to anyone who might be looking for something to watch in between Korra though to be honest, the writing, characters, and overall quality is far far better than Korra and perhaps even ATLA but that's a very very close one.
 
I just finished watching Fullmetal Alchemist Brotherhood.

If you haven't seen it yet (like myself, I was late to the party), I'd HIGHLY recommend you guys go watch it. Haven't enjoyed a TV series this much since the original Avatar TLA. WOW that was great.

And it's on Netflix, so that's nice. I'd highly highly recommend it to anyone who might be looking for something to watch in between Korra though to be honest, the writing, characters, and overall quality is far better than Korra and perhaps even ATLA but that's a very very close one.

Haha, FMA is amazing. I've always said that tonally it's what Avatar wanted to be and could have been if it wasn't on a children's network. Oh well, this new season is good although it really could have used more eps
 
I just finished watching Fullmetal Alchemist Brotherhood.

If you haven't seen it yet (like myself, I was late to the party), I'd HIGHLY recommend you guys go watch it. Haven't enjoyed a TV series this much since the original Avatar TLA. WOW that was great.

And it's on Netflix, so that's nice. I'd highly highly recommend it to anyone who might be looking for something to watch in between Korra though to be honest, the writing, characters, and overall quality is far far better than Korra and perhaps even ATLA but that's a very very close one.

I don't think you can even compare the two.

That's like comparing Spongebob and Space Dandy.
 
Haha, FMA is amazing. I've always said that tonally it's what Avatar wanted to be and could have been if it wasn't on a children's network. Oh well, this new season is good although it really could have used more eps

Yeah, absolutely. FMA Brotherhood did side characters so well though. I found myself caring about EVERY side character, no matter how minor. I was SUPER impressed with it. On top of that the writing is top-notch. The series is definitely a classic.
 
What's the over under on these happening:

Suyin is the second villain.
Toph becomes ruler of Ba Sing Sei.
Bolin learns lava bending.
Zaheer doesn't get finished and the battle continues in Book 4.

Suyin having alt, motives, a nice swerve would be her being in the red lotus
Toph given another shot at government?......ehhhhhh
Woulldn't be surprised if Bolin learns lava bending
I hope Zaheer doesn't end here but wouldn't be suprised since they have been very...."neatly wrapped" seasons this whole series.
 
I just finished watching Fullmetal Alchemist Brotherhood.

If you haven't seen it yet (like myself, I was late to the party), I'd HIGHLY recommend you guys go watch it. Haven't enjoyed a TV series this much since the original Avatar TLA. WOW that was great.

And it's on Netflix, so that's nice. I'd highly highly recommend it to anyone who might be looking for something to watch in between Korra though to be honest, the writing, characters, and overall quality is far far better than Korra and perhaps even ATLA but that's a very very close one.

To be fair, having better writing than Korra isn't hard, I bet most people here can develop a 4 character cast than they have.
 
What's the over under on these happening:

Suyin is the second villain.
Tenzin dies.
Asami dies.
Toph becomes ruler of Ba Sing Sei.
Bolin becomes president of Ba Song Sei.
Bolin learns lava bending.
Bolin learns metal bending.
Zaheer doesn't get finished and the battle continues in Book 4.

I doubt Suyin is evil, wouldn't be happy it if it went in that direction.
Tenzin and Asmi have plot armour doubt any of them would die. Katara or Zuko are probably the most likely non villains to die in the show as of right now.
I could see Toph popping up back to help defeat Zaheer, but I don't really see her or Bolin becoming the President of Ba Sing Se.
Definitely think that Bolin will learn lava bending in some capacity by the end of this Book.
I do hope Zaheer and Red Lotus continue on into Book 4 but at the same time the creators have said quite often how they try and make each Book a self contained story

I just finished watching Fullmetal Alchemist Brotherhood.

If you haven't seen it yet (like myself, I was late to the party), I'd HIGHLY recommend you guys go watch it. Haven't enjoyed a TV series this much since the original Avatar TLA. WOW that was great.

And it's on Netflix, so that's nice. I'd highly highly recommend it to anyone who might be looking for something to watch in between Korra though to be honest, the writing, characters, and overall quality is far far better than Korra and perhaps even ATLA but that's a very very close one.

Yeah Fullmetal Alchemist Brotherhood is fantastic
It does have a film The Sacred Star of Milos which is an enjoyable enough side story if you're still itching for more Fullmetal Alchemist Brotherhood
 
I don't think you can even compare the two.

That's like comparing Spongebob and Space Dandy.

You absolutely can compare them, they're both animated comedies.

Just because Spongebob/Avatar are for children doesn't mean you can handwave criticism, it provides an explanation for a lot of the faults in those two shows, not an excuse.

It's not right to keep separating cartoons and anime so cartoons don't look bad in the comparison. Have some standards for quality for the whole animation medium, without excuses. Don't be afraid to compare a cartoon to an anime.

After all, that's how Avatar got so good, by being so much like an anime that it managed to achieve the quality level of an average anime, and become a big fish in a small pond among the quality of the US's (TV) animation output.
 
I don't think you can even compare the two.

That's like comparing Spongebob and Space Dandy.

What does this even mean? Have you seen both shows?! They're both fairly similar. They follow large ensemble casts in a fantasy world, with deep mythologies and, with interesting mixes of technology and "magic" systems.

Slamtastic has a good point. Separating cartoons and anime just to make cartoons not seem as bad in comparison is the reason why we get so many crappy ones in the first place. It's the reason why Cartoon Network ever had Toonami instead of just a general action cartoon block. It's the reason we got that ridiculous article about Korra creating a new genre because the guy had clearly never heard of or watched anime
 
You absolutely can compare them, they're both animated comedies.

Just because Spongebob/Avatar are for children doesn't mean you can handwave criticism, it provides an explanation for a lot of the faults in those two shows, not an excuse.

It's not right to keep separating cartoons and anime so cartoons don't look bad in the comparison. Have some standards for quality for the whole animation medium, without excuses. Don't be afraid to compare a cartoon to an anime.

After all, that's how Avatar got so good, by being so much like an anime that it managed to achieve the quality level of an average anime, and become a big fish in a small pond among the quality of the US's (TV) animation output.

I disgaree. Both Avatar and Korra do some things that aren't exactly "good" simply because it's an American children's cartoon. Anime like FMA don't have that. They can tell what ever story they want, how they want.
 
I disgaree. Both Avatar and Korra do some things that aren't exactly "good" simply because it's an American children's cartoon. Anime like FMA don't have that. They can tell what ever story they want, how they want.

I know, but instead of excusing that fact and accepting the cartoons as they are, complain about it, criticize, rescind your viewership or dollars.

How else do you expect things to change so US cartoons don't have those limitations?
 
I know, but instead of excusing that fact and accepting the cartoons as they are, complain about it, criticize, rescind your viewership or dollars.

How else do you expect things to change so US cartoons don't have those limitations?

I don't think doing that will stop the fart jokes on Korra or a show that ended six years ago. I don't give a crap about any other TV show.
 
Yeah, as much as I love the original ATLA. It probably wouldn't be anywhere near close to my top five animated series of all time, and the only one from the west that makes it on the list is the two Justice league series.

I often Compare Dragon Ball (Not Z, even though I like Z) To ATLA and the former does things I love with the world and characters that Western Cartoons aren't really allowed to do much.

Legend of Korra really wants to be take seriously, but when the fights themselves have little to no danger in them and there are somehow more Fart Jokes than in the prequel series, then we have a problem.
 
Yeah, as much as I love the original ATLA. It probably wouldn't be anywhere near close to my top five animated series of all time, and the only one from the west that makes it on the list is the two Justice league series.

I often Compare Dragon Ball (Not Z, even though I like Z) To ATLA and the former does things I love with the world and characters that Western Cartoons aren't really allowed to do much.

Legend of Korra really wants to be take seriously, but when the fights themselves have little to no danger in them and there are somehow more Fart Jokes than in the prequel series, then we have a problem.

Neither did Avatar. The the humans in Avatar are highly resistant people.
 
I like Avatar more than FMA (OG and Brotherhood), and frankly, all anime I have seen (which isn't much outside of the mainstream stuff everyone has seen).

The world is more appealing, and Japanese cliches don't move me. Different strokes and all that.
 
I can think of three times in the original series where a character dies in a fight or almost dies.

In Korra, a lot of time major threat comes from non-combatant type of danger, sure the Earth Queen was killed, but it wasn't because she was in a fight, it wasn't a direct result of battle.

Fights in Korra seems to just be there to move the story along, with very little weight or concern given to each of the.

Of course this is a kids show after all, but if the show actually wants to move me in a way like a certain moment in Part 2 of Jojo, or make me actually care I think we need to move past certain aspects.

As I recall, Generator Rex was TVPG, and that let them get away with a lot more stuff.
 
I know, but instead of excusing that fact and accepting the cartoons as they are, complain about it, criticize, rescind your viewership or dollars.

How else do you expect things to change so US cartoons don't have those limitations?

Those limitations are cultural. Something like Korra doing well at least opens the door for more serious cartoons to become more common, even if it doesn't break down expectations of the culture.
 
What does this even mean? Have you seen both shows?! They're both fairly similar. They follow large ensemble casts in a fantasy world, with deep mythologies and, with interesting mixes of technology and "magic" systems.

This is basically the only reason I made the recommendation and comparison, if you will. Both are shows with about 60ish episodes, with one large arc, a lot of characters with character growth/development, good writing, etc.
 
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What if I told you Roman Reigns is garbage, and his hair looks stupid?
 
Yeah, as much as I love the original ATLA. It probably wouldn't be anywhere near close to my top five animated series of all time, and the only one from the west that makes it on the list is the two Justice league series.

I often Compare Dragon Ball (Not Z, even though I like Z) To ATLA and the former does things I love with the world and characters that Western Cartoons aren't really allowed to do much.

Legend of Korra really wants to be take seriously, but when the fights themselves have little to no danger in them and there are somehow more Fart Jokes than in the prequel series, then we have a problem.

This is funny considering that the entire plot of Dragon Ball revolves around making magic wishes to bring dead people back to life.
 
This is funny considering that the entire plot of Dragon Ball revolves around making magic wishes to bring dead people back to life.

Well, if Korra was less serious overall than it wouldn't be a problem, hell in the original dragon ball they only did that twice.

That being said, I would compare Korra to Z more than Dragon Ball.
 
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it's okay, Satch

I didn't mean it

Reigns is alright
 
lmao apparently the same guy from last time has the episode again

he didnt post it though, just a quote from the episode

so... its going to get leaked again. i dont understand how they havent learned, but ok nick, ok.
 
OMG, if there's another leak.

At this rate, they just need to release the last three episodes this weekend.

yeah... by this point, if theyre not going to take the necessary measures to prevent this from happening every single week, they might as well dump it on the website.
 
lmao apparently the same guy from last time has the episode again

he didnt post it though, just a quote from the episode

so... its going to get leaked again. i dont understand how they havent learned, but ok nick, ok.

YEP, the Tumblr user "zaheerforthepeople" seems to have access to the new episodes a couple of days before they air, and has again leaked a quote from Episode 11,
The Ultimatum

Although it doesn't right say that it's from the new episode, he/she posted the full quote from Guru Laghima that Zaheer cites to Korra in "The Stakeout", about "new growth cannot exist without first the destruction of the old."

This looks like it's the full quote:

I was once asked what it means to enter the void. I will tell you. An airbender may meditate for a hundred years trying to detach herself from the world, but she cannot do it. Humans cherish human life, and by that they are bound to this world. The only way to abandon the world is to abandon one’s humanity.
New growth cannot exist without first the destruction of the old.
The void is found in the sowing of death. From that death springs life on the wind.

-Guru Laghima

My theory? We hear the full quote from
Tenzin or Jinora, as the show begins to tell us that Zaheer is distorting airbending philosophy, or at least Air Nomads understand more about Laghima's teaching that Zaheer.
 
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