Ferguson: Police Kill 18yo Black Male; Fire Gas/Rubber Bullets Into Protesting Crowds

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E92 M3 said:
I am no politician, but this particular statement will do nothing but enrage certain parts of the country. Instead he could have enacted a task force that will investigate racially-induced crimes by police. It will show people that he's serious about making changes.
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Again you don't know what you are talking about. His comments will only enrage people people who don't bother to read or listen to what he actually said. The civil rights division of the DOJ has been around for a long time now. Your comments come across as misinformed, opportunistic criticizing of Obama for no reason.
 
watershed said:
Again you don't know what you are talking about. His comments will only enrage people people who don't bother to read or listen to what he actually said. The civil rights division of the DOJ has been around for a long time now. Your comments come across as misinformed, opportunistic criticizing of Obama for no reason.
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Most likely I am misinformed, though no opportunistic criticizing took place. Like I said, politics seldom interest me - so if something like that exists, good. Though, obviously it's not working.

Also, I actually think Obama is a pretty cool guy. All presidents have their weakness, though.
 
theignoramus said:
This article has a point but highlighting the fact the kid was about to go college and make something of himself highlights the magnitude of the wrongdoing.
This piece of shit, power tripping cop started a physical confrontation over something completely fucking trivial and now a young man is dead because of it.
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In the same breath you said the article has a point and then immediately missed it. "Make something of himself". A murder has "less magnitude" if you kill someone you don't think is about to make something of themself? Go read that piece like three more times.
 
Brolic Gaoler said:
As are the rioters, looters, arsonists and aggressors in the eyes of many posters here.

There's literally people here cheering the burning down of police homes, an aggression against their families. It's sickening.
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Wait, what?

The homes of police have been burned down? Wow.
 
Brolic Gaoler said:
As are the rioters, looters, arsonists and aggressors in the eyes of many posters here.

There's literally people here cheering the burning down of police homes, an aggression against their families. It's sickening.
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I'm close to Ferguson doing network installs, and I haven't heard anything about this on the local news.
 
Ravek said:
How was that a prank call?
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I don't think anyone thinks they can do more than annoy someone, by calling an individual dispatcher and demanding justice for anything. It can have it's merits, annoying the lower ranks so they can also demand change, I just think there are better ways for people to get involved than calling the police station in question.
 
Kurdel said:
I don't think anyone thinks they can do more than annoy someone, by calling an individual dispatcher and demanding justice for anything. It can have it's merits, annoying the lower ranks so they can also demand change, I just think there are better ways for people to get involved than calling the police station in question.
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That dispatcher is on the clock, and has been trained to respond in a professional way, and that answer was quite unprofessional.
 
Kurdel said:
I don't think anyone thinks they can do more than annoy someone, by calling an individual dispatcher and demanding justice for anything. It can have it's merits, annoying the lower ranks so they can also demand change, I just think there are better ways for people to get involved than calling the police station in question.
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So by that reasoning, his call was a prank? Is that what you're implyimg?

Additionally, there is always a better way to do something in any circumstance. So your point there is nonexistent. The man who made the phone call was clearly upset with the situation at hand and wanted to make his statement. And he did. That was it. LITERALLY no harm or foul came from it.
 
Corronchilejano said:
That dispatcher is on the clock, and has been trained to respond in a professional way, and that answer was quite unprofessional.
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I agree.

But do you think his unprofessional answer was a serious threat to call the FBI?

Ravek said:
The man who made the phone call was clearly upset with the situation at hand and wanted to make his statement. And he did. That was it. LITERALLY no harm or foul came from it.
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You are right.

Most people take their frustration out by protesting, talking to people or posting on the internet (like us).
 
Kurdel said:
I agree.

But do you think his unprofessional answer was a serious threat to call the FBI?



You are right.

Most people take their frustration out by protesting, talking to people or posting on the internet (like us).
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Its not relevant if the call to the FBI was serious.
 
Kurdel said:
I agree.

But do you think his unprofessional answer was a serious threat to call the FBI?
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The power police are entitled to is in question. I would very much think that the people deserve respect and patience in specially trying times. That was a complete blunder that only escalates the feelings of injustice and carelessness around the whole situation.
 
Kurdel said:
My issue with Lime's post is that it is phrased as such. I just think it was a flippant receptionist tired of getting crank calls, and treated this one just like that.
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Why do you think its a flippant receptionist tired of getting crank calls? Based on.. and why is this an adequate exchange on tax payers dimes, as well as the line of work.
 
Kurdel said:
My issue with Lime's post is that it is phrased as such. I just think it was a flippant receptionist tired of getting crank calls, and treated this one just like that.
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Dude could have sympathized with the caller instead of antagonizing and threatening him.
 
Kurdel said:
My issue with Lime's post is that it is phrased as such. I just think it was a flippant receptionist tired of getting crank calls, and treated this one just like that.
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Your post basically said that the caller could have acted differently insteading calling the police department. If im wrong in reading it that way, I apologize.

But if I'm not, those same standards apply to the officer who took the call.
 
johnny956 said:
wat
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Umm. There are all of like two black police in Ferguson.
Ravek said:
Probably the most ignorant post I've seen on GAF in a while.
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I guess I'll have to break this down real simple like. In Ferguson, where the majority of the residents are black and the majority of the officers are white, being angry with the police is virtually the same as being angry with white people.

Back to the point at hand, the likelihood is that the officer that shot Brown is white. White cop kills unarmed black boy escalates racial tension.
 
slit said:
We decide when you protest. Later in the evening is inconvenient for us.
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jamesinclair said:
It's right in the constitution bro.

Right to assemble is limited to business hours only, in free speech cordons, subject to terms and conditions.

The founding fathers knew their shit.
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depths20XX said:
lol @ telling people when to protest. People gotta work during the day. Since when are there designated hours when you can protest?
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Not sure if you guys are being sarcastic or if you're unaware that the Supreme Court has long held that the government can restrict the public's right of assembly, provided that their restrictions are reasonable as to their time, place, and manner. Given the rioting that has occurred in the Ferguson area (largely, if not entirely, at night), I don't think the restrictions in that notice are unreasonable as to their time (day), place (no restriction that I see), or manner (peaceful vs. non-violent being the only "restriction" I can see here).
 
Ravek said:
Your post basically said that the caller could have acted differently insteading calling the police department. If im wrong in reading it that way, I apologize.

But if I'm not, those same standards apply to the officer who took the call.
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No, not at all. I was looking at the situation and wondering what the point was.

I am saying that students protesting tuition hikes who call the education Minister's office demanding justice from the receptionist would be also be useless in my eyes.

Or anti war activists calling Halliburton to say they want justice.
 
DreamDrop said:
Umm. There are all of like two black police in Ferguson.
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I completely read your post wrong. I thought you said there were two black people in Ferguson which didn't make sense at all.

Ferguson’s police chief and mayor are white. Of the six City Council members, one is black. The local school board has six white members and one Latino. Of the 53 commissioned officers on the police force, three are black, said Ferguson Police Chief Thomas Jackson
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Ravek said:
Probably the most ignorant post I've seen on GAF in a while.
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http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=125012195&postcount=1881

http://www.latimes.com/nation/natio...erguson-missouri-shooting-20140811-story.html

"The Ferguson Police Department has 53 total commissioned officers, three of whom are black and two of whom are other minorities; the rest are white, the police chief told the Los Angeles Times. Three of the officers are women and 50 are men, he said."​

Yes, how ignorant of him. Three instead of two.
 
johnny956 said:
I completely read your post wrong. I thought you said there were two black people in Ferguson which didn't make sense at all.
Ferguson’s police chief and mayor are white. Of the six City Council members, one is black. The local school board has six white members and one Latino.
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There must be master-class levels of gerrymandering there. Jesus.
 
mre said:
Not sure if you guys are being sarcastic or if you're unaware that the Supreme Court has long held that the government can restrict the public's right of assembly, provided that their restrictions are reasonable as to their time, place, and manner. Given the rioting that has occurred in the Ferguson area (largely, if not entirely, at night), I don't think the restrictions in that notice are unreasonable as to their time (day), place (no restriction that I see), or manner (peaceful vs. non-violent being the only "restriction" I can see here).
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Yes, I'm aware. I just don't believe anything they say in that press release. I hope the peaceful protesters do not listen to them either. Passive resistence is sometimes nessessary. If people in the 60's listened to authorities on when they should protest the civil rights movement would have never happened.
 
DreamDrop said:
Umm. There are all of like two black police in Ferguson.

I guess I'll have to break this down real simple like. In Ferguson, where the majority of the residents are black and the majority of the officers are white, being angry with the police is virtually the same as being angry with white people.

Back to the point at hand, the likelihood is that the officer that shot Brown is white. White cop kills unarmed black boy escalates racial tension.
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People in poorer neighbourhoods prefer and trust the police force more when they deal with their own race. In middle class neighbourhoods, it doesn't matter too much.

The only thing everyone agrees on is the police for should not be segregated.. Just one source for this info, but it still is eye opening.
 
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