Ferguson: Police Kill 18yo Black Male; Fire Gas/Rubber Bullets Into Protesting Crowds
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heliosRAzi
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I dunno. I'm watching MSNBC.
User 73706
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I think he's done just that.
I'm at work and stuck to a computer. Glad to hear it's still on MSNBC, though.
heliosRAzi
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Watching this video from the Kent State shootings in 1970 was distressing...
The way he fell over also makes me think he was shot in the back
This should get its own thread, considering how long and complex this one has become. The language and demands are obviously a bit much to translate directly into law, but considering how effective cameras have proven in reducing complaints and police aggression, it's worth signing just to make the issue gets brought to the fore.
She's usually very good, though occasionally she goes too far left for my taste.
heliosRAzi
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Maddow is doing great right now
CrimsonCommie
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I just tuned in but I agree. This is great coverage.
I hope that at least the people in charge the last few days are at least removed but they should all face criminal charges.
She's much better at covering real world events than politics, IMO.
heliosRAzi
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Antonio French is going to be on Maddow shortly
Gordon Shumway
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Agreed..
Yeah, they aren't shooting tear gas and antagonizing the protesters. Looks great to see them marching with the protesters.
Steve Youngblood
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What's this in reference to?
heliosRAzi
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Amazing how treating people like humans can change things
Ah sorry. Was just agreeing with Maddow on the incompetence of the police effort so far.
Steve Youngblood
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I see. I just wanted to make sure we were talking about the efforts that have already happened and not some new development now that the highway patrol is in charge.
Sorry. Pre highway patrol.
heliosRAzi
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Maddow now on the militarization of the police
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Yea it's pretty nuts. It was shocking to see how much firepower Boston PD had during the marathon bombing incident.
CrimsonCommie
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Fear
timetokill
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heliosRAzi
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You know, pipe bombs
HighAmperage
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Drudge shamelessly pandering again with the pic he has up right now.
timetokill
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I'm glad to see the change in tone by the highway patrol. I hope it doesn't quiet the demands for justice though.
Fuck Drudge, he's slime.
On NPR today they said that some of these police departments can buy an MRAP for like $3000, which is dirt cheap for a vehicle like that. They said it's a special department that is setup specifically to get rip of military surplus. I'll try to find a real source instead of my "I heard thing" anecdote.
heliosRAzi
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Liz Brown on MSNBC dropping some truefacts
Ok if thats true it makes sense. For that cheap might as well figure out something to do with it. Cheaper than getting a van for the police. Its a crazy symptom of the military industrial complex though.
SniperHunter
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live stream from vice news
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qMpag0bESJo
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qMpag0bESJo
Vice is everywhere these days.
Source: http://www.marketplace.org/topics/tech/why-fergusons-police-department-uses-military-weapons
I didn't quote the whole thing. More at link.
The Pentagon has what it calls a “Disposition Services” department. Its mandate, quite simply, is to dispose of stuff. A list of what’s available includes night-vision goggles, combat uniforms, tear gas, grenades and M16s.
Robert Kane heads the department of criminology and justice studies at Drexel University, and he says the Defense Department has sold billions of dollars of equipment at bargain basement prices.
“You know, an armored personnel carrier can cost somewhere along the lines of $780,000, maybe even $800,000, and sometimes the police department can get that for $3,000,” he says.
There are also grants available, Kane says.
State and local police departments have dealt with the DOD for decades, but Congress formalized that relationship in the 1990s, during the war on drugs and after the Los Angeles riots.
“Law enforcement was in many instances outgunned and out-equipped from a technical standpoint,” says Jim Pasco, executive director of the Fraternal Order of Police.
After Sept. 11, departments acquired new surveillance equipment, along with new vehicles and weapons.
Robert Kane heads the department of criminology and justice studies at Drexel University, and he says the Defense Department has sold billions of dollars of equipment at bargain basement prices.
“You know, an armored personnel carrier can cost somewhere along the lines of $780,000, maybe even $800,000, and sometimes the police department can get that for $3,000,” he says.
There are also grants available, Kane says.
State and local police departments have dealt with the DOD for decades, but Congress formalized that relationship in the 1990s, during the war on drugs and after the Los Angeles riots.
“Law enforcement was in many instances outgunned and out-equipped from a technical standpoint,” says Jim Pasco, executive director of the Fraternal Order of Police.
After Sept. 11, departments acquired new surveillance equipment, along with new vehicles and weapons.
everyday math
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So has it been going on ok tonight?
SniperHunter
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they are the best. i hope they keep getting more popular
I wish I could be inside these cops heads right then.
heliosRAzi
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