Ferguson: Police Kill 18yo Black Male; Fire Gas/Rubber Bullets Into Protesting Crowds
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CharminUltra
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HBO and I'm guessing HBO Go.
HBO or streaming on HBO Go. They'll also upload this clip in a day or two.
Oliver is going in fucking raw on the Ferguson and County PDs.
Big Baybee
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So he was shot from a distance. Guess that means the the was reaching for gun story bullshit.
Doesn't that have to show premeditation?
Brawly Likes to Brawl
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There it is.
CrimsonCommie
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How? They said he was shot at running away and then turned around with his arms up and was shot until he died.
statham
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same shit, even when told the media can record, they still arrest which means they are doing shit against the law.
Random Painted HIghway
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Jesus. how many total rounds were fired, has that been released? did Wilson fire until empty? fuck that guy
The Technomancer
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I'm going to give them the benefit of the doubt when it comes to placing where gunshots landed on a human body they were watching from probably well over twenty feet away
DrForester
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http://new.livestream.com/timcast/events/3295551
I turn this on and the guy is running. WTF just happened?
I agree. Now if the bullets were all from the front, that would contradict the witnesses. Though he still could have been shot while surrendering.
I turn this on and the guy is running. WTF just happened?
I agree. Now if the bullets were all from the front, that would contradict the witnesses. Though he still could have been shot while surrendering.
Big Baybee
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Probably this. Need to know how many shots were fired from that officers gun.
BeatResetsTheWorld
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The witnesses said he was shot 4 times when on the ground. That doesn't seem like a contradiction
Random_Stranger
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Could be he turned around when the shots were fired, and when he turned around was shot from the front.
Nabs
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Yep. Not all bullets hit Mike.
The Technomancer
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He had to be sure that dangerous thug wasn't going to turn violent man
I think we need a sticky thread on what premeditation means in a criminal context. You can show premeditation by pulling the trigger with the intent to kill your target.
Going from the witness testimony (which seemed to me fairly credible, given that they were very similar to each other and coming from independent people) and the autopsy combined, it makes me think Brown was being shot at - then turned around and was pelted with the remaining bullets. The report suggested that the last bullets were the ones that struck him in the head (which was bowed), killing him.
Poor guy. How horrible.
Poor guy. How horrible.
This would help explain why they went all preemptive tonight. Crap would have gotten insanely ugly had that gotten out and we had a repeat of last night. This is horrible too though. Lesser of horrible possible situations maybe? Both equally bad results in the end is more likely.
Jason's Ultimatum
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so he got shot twice in the head, turned around with his hands up, then got shot four times? Seems unlikely someone would be mobile after getting shot twice in the head.
Devolution
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CrimsonCommie
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Shooting at a guy with his hands up shows he wanted to kill. That's premeditation
Thank you!
TheBaronOfNA
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Dude, the report said that the head shots were THE LAST ONES.
He might have been reaching for the gun if he was anywhere near the police car, but at some point he ran off. Reaching for and unsuccessfully trying to get a policeman's gun though doesnt mean you ought to get shot 30 yards away as you are running.
if the cop doesnt go down for this...
saw that, these cops are out of hand. Hand have been for a while apparently.
Not necessarily. The witnesses said he was running away and stopped, he could have stopped just from being shot at, not necessarily hit. Regardless, 6 times is overkill, if this were a wife and husband murder, the cops would literally use the term overkill to describe it.
That's not what everyone is proposing.
Big Baybee
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No, he got shot at, turned around, was shot in arms then in head.
PhoenixDark
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Doesn't this contradict the eye witness accounts that he was shot in the back while running away?
Yea sorry, I wasn't really concentrating on what you said. I have the live stream on. Was just throwing out a possible reason.
Like I said he could have been shot at as he was running and the bullets didn't hit him. Witnesses could have mistaken that for him being hit when he turned around
He gets shot 4 times and then shot in the head twice.
Devolution
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Witnesses heard shots and might have assumed the bullets struck him. It doesn't really conflict with their reports of running then turning and pleading.
Was the weapon that the officer had when he said he was going to shoot the reporter have "real" bullets. Or is it some sort of rubber bullet thing? They don't actually have live rounds do they?
EDIT: Not that it makes the situation suddenly great. They can still be lethal especially at the range the cop was threatening.
EDIT: Not that it makes the situation suddenly great. They can still be lethal especially at the range the cop was threatening.
lol how would he turn around if someone gets shot in the head and twice at that. Come on..
Bullet wounds in the anterior portion of the arm are consistent with witness testimony that his hands were up at the time of his shooting.
It likely means the cop shot and missed, which prompted Brown to turn around. Then he was gunned down.
ZedIndyLil
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So if true, there were more than 6 discharges (with missed shots as he was running away). Jeeeeez.
BronsonLee
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The only thing that is in question is whether he got shot in the back. It's more likely that the cop fired, missed, but Brown stopped and turned around to surrender.
These aren't facts, they're witness accounts, but there are multiple, and they all corroborate.
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