Ferguson: Police Kill 18yo Black Male; Fire Gas/Rubber Bullets Into Protesting Crowds

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I think the robbery footage is definitely relevant to the shooting, even if the cop didn't know about it.. Now we can safely infer the guy was a major D.Bag and bully who pushed around old people to get what he wants and with that attitude he probably wasn't too cooperative with the officers..

Ferguson PD themselves said the footage was irrelevant to the shooting.

Ferguson PD themselves said the footage was irrelevant to the shooting.

Ferguson PD themselves said the footage was irrelevant to the shooting.

Ferguson PD themselves said the footage was irrelevant to the shooting.

Ferguson PD themselves said the footage was irrelevant to the shooting.

I'll keep repeating this, because apparently some people just can't get it through their heads.

This is bs, as conservatives and libertarians are roundly criticizing the police here. Don't let your partisan hackery get carried away please .

I certainly haven't seen fiscal conservatives decry the excessive expenses of this use of force. Have you?
 
Well, due to the ongoing issues, my company is shutting down all ATM's that could be vandalized. So I get to go yank the network equipment out of the ATM's in Ferguson and a 10 mile radius around it.

This is going to take a long while to do so, so odds are, I'll be down and about in the area tonight, until I'm told to leave.

Stay safe man...
 
I'm not angling anything I'm specifically talking about he point made in the article I linked about the videos being released and how they aren't simply to be discarded as "character assassination."





You're assuming he surrendered. There's also the account that he never did that and instead attacked the officer once he was told to stop as the officer drew the gun on him.

What the fuck is this shit? Pls see your way out.

They fucking saw him kneeling with his hands up and he was still shot. Get out.
 
Except it's not, If he did indeed attack the officer.

Which I'm sure he didn't, but you seem to want that to be true so much. Like, can a black person get the benefit of the doubt to you or are you just looking for any and every reason to justify him being shot? It's a huge jump to go from stealing cigars to attacking a cop.
 
Except it's not, If he did indeed attack the officer.

Lets say he did punch the officer, or even tried to grab his gun (the go to defense of cops around the nation) and then he ran away.

When he's 35ft away and unarmed, what the fuck does it matter? You don't shoot him.

And you definitely don't shoot him if he's giving himself up after you've shot at him already.
 
Which I'm sure he didn't, but you seem to want that to be true so much. Like, can a black person get the benefit of the doubt to you or are you just looking for any and every reason to justify him being shot? It's a huge jump to go from stealing cigars to attacking a cop.
You're forgetting that he had marijuana in his system.
 
You're assuming he surrendered. There's also the account that he never did that and instead attacked the officer once he was told to stop as the officer drew the gun on him.

Witnesses say he surrendered and was then shot. He was shot six times according to the leaked report, TWICE in the head, and there was only one shooter.

Brown had no criminal record either, so, what frame of mind? Why would someone without a criminal record attempt to stupidly remove a cops gun? What then?
 
Except we've only got the officer's word on that, the numerous eyewitnesses tell a vastly different story.

I agree that the officers word is going to be extremely biased, but there is a video with a recording at the time of the shooting with someone describing Brown rushing the officer in the street.

I'll see if I can find it.
 
No matter what happened before the shooting, if at any point Brown put his hands up to surrender, the police officer is guilty of murder if he shot afterwards. None of this "bum rushing" or "went for his gun" matters anymore. I'm very interested to see what the officer "states" happened when he unloaded on Brown.

The guy could've been the world's most dangerous terrorist and still it would've been murder on US soil if he was shot after he surrendered.
 
You're assuming he surrendered. There's also the account that he never did that and instead attacked the officer once he was told to stop as the officer drew the gun on him.

4:1 witness accounts that he surrendered vs attacking the cop.

(The single one, btw. Has never gone on record to back it up yet.)
 
Brown had no criminal record either, so, what frame of mind? Why would someone without a criminal record attempt to stupidly remove a cops gun? What then?

He did just commit a strong armed robbery though. You can't bring up his lack of criminal record and ignore the felony he committed 10 minutes prior
 
What the fuck is this shit? Pls see your way out.

They fucking saw him kneeling with his hands up and he was still shot. Get out.

You don't get to dictate who posts and who doesn't. Sorry if I'm going against your bias, but you're going to have to deal with it.

The story is pretty different across the spectrum. Several have him being shot in the back turning around and being shot with his hands up. One or two have the cop shooting him while prone on the street. Others have him kneeling and others have him attacking the cop.
 
Lets say he did punch the officer, or even tried to grab his gun (the go to defense of cops around the nation) and then he ran away.

When he's 35ft away and unarmed, what the fuck does it matter? You don't shoot him.

And you definitely don't shoot him if he's giving himself up after you've shot at him already.

He is open to the absurd possibility that Brown fought with Wilson ran away to charge his meter and rushed back towards him giving Wilson no choice but to shoot.
 
Well, due to the ongoing issues, my company is shutting down all ATM's that could be vandalized. So I get to go yank the network equipment out of the ATM's in Ferguson and a 10 mile radius around it.

This is going to take a long while to do so, so odds are, I'll be down and about in the area tonight, until I'm told to leave.

Crazy. Remember your first priority is your own safety.

Also apparently mixing Malox and water in spray bottle is a good way to neutralize tear gas on your face. This according to an employee of the school district who was on timcast last night.
 
Meh, I don't think that's exactly true. The top case usually results in discussions on gun control, bullying, and mental health treatment. With that said I get the point, it's just lazily done

You highlight why its literally true. The top case is exactly how white people that commit crimes are treated In america. Sure, sure, it results in plenty of discussions, as you've listed. But, generally nothing to smear them. There is a narrative to find out what went wrong in their minds of the 'normal suburban kid gone wrong!"

The bottom case is exactly what happens to unarmed black people shot in this country. Its perfect. The black person is smeared as is happening now, and has happened in the past. And it will continue to happen as long as folks don't have the temerity to admit to themselves that this is how out of control the situation has become.
 
He did just commit a strong armed robbery though. You can't bring up his lack of criminal record and ignore the felony he committed 10 minutes prior

Ok, worst case scenario, he attacked the cop. Witnesses still say he ran away, was shot, surrendered, and was then shot point blank.

Was the killing still justified?
 
4:1 witness accounts that he surrendered vs attacking the cop.

(The single one, btw. Has never gone on record to back it up yet.)

I saw the CNN reporting, according to them it came from law enforcement.

You'd have to call every matching witness account a group lying effort to stick to that viewpoint.


I feel like that video posted two days ago needs to be reposted where you hear people talking in the background about mike charging the cop.

http://www.brennerbrief.com/witness-michael-brown-bum-rushed-cop/
 
This is bs, as conservatives and libertarians are roundly criticizing the police here. Don't let your partisan hackery get carried away please .

This is true. People should more accurately type republicans, or perhaps, the republican media, since they are the ones intent on portraying brown as a thug whose killing was his own fault.
 
A bit of background on the politics and demographics of Ferguson according to New York Times.

In Ferguson, Black Town, White Power

That helps explain why majority-black Ferguson has a virtually all-white power structure: a white mayor; a school board with six white members and one Hispanic, which recently suspended a highly regarded young black superintendent who then resigned; a City Council with just one black member; and a 6 percent black police force.
 
You don't get to dictate who posts and who doesn't. Sorry if I'm going against your bias, but you're going to have to deal with it.

The story is pretty different across the spectrum. Several have him being shot in the back turning around and being shot with his hands up. One or two have the cop shooting him while prone on the street. Others have him kneeling and others have him attacking the cop.

What witness said he attacked the cop? Sources needed.
 
What does it matter if he was shot in the face after surrendering?

I knew someone would make this leap... It has NOTHING to do with it! I was replying to "frame of mind", and why a hypothetical person with no criminal record MIGHT attack an officer when confronted. If that person has just committed a felony, that's a pretty big factor
 
You'd be surprised that there exist people who think Tyrone Biggums from Chappelle's Show is based off reality. Rock in his case, but it counts.

Lmao, Michael and Trayvon had some red balls beforehand. It's all coming together piece by piece.


I knew someone would make this leap... It has NOTHING to do with it! I was replying to "frame of mind", and why a hypothetical person with no criminal record MIGHT attack an officer when confronted. If that person has just committed a felony, that's a pretty big factor

Do you believe he knew he committed a felony vs a misdemeanor?
 
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