Amazing life-like Crysis like graphics aren't necessary to blow people's minds in VR. I've shown to my friends both Project Cars and Live For Speed and the outright "blowing of minds" aspect between the two is no different.
Oculus Rift DK2 Thread
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Amazing life-like Crysis like graphics aren't necessary to blow people's minds in VR. I've shown to my friends both Project Cars and Live For Speed and the outright "blowing of minds" aspect between the two is no different.
I don't now. For me, some of the most impressive things have been the UE4 demos.
And for others, it's been Titans of Space.. I think VR will offer a bevy of experiences with varying graphical fidelity that'll blow minds regardless.
I'm just stating that state of the art graphics aren't necessary to blow people's minds in VR. I'm really hoping Sony actually understands this aspect and if anything I hope for Project Morpheus they can even push the refresh rate to 75.
Low-persistence makes such a huge difference.
Just played HL2 VR for about an hour and it's amazing!
Decoupled aiming feels great and so much more natural than traditional fps games. The sense of scale and presence is great too. Those manhacks flying at your face look really cool. Would really love to play Skyrim like this.
I do feel a little sick though. :/
Decoupled aiming feels great and so much more natural than traditional fps games. The sense of scale and presence is great too. Those manhacks flying at your face look really cool. Would really love to play Skyrim like this.
I do feel a little sick though. :/
Coming from the DK1 where everything made me sick, the only 2 things in DK2 I still can't handle are Quake 2 and HL2. I'm seeing that with almost everyone who had tried the DK2 with me as well.
There needs to be a new way to think about controlling these types of fast movement fps games in VR
There needs to be a new way to think about controlling these types of fast movement fps games in VR
Is that Project CARS? I thought it was still under NDA.
? I thought I saw a post in the WMD forums today saying that it's after Gamescom already. Guess, I'll take it down just in case. Darn..
I asked in the forum if the NDA still applies. I'm going by this post: http://forum.wmdportal.com/showthread.php?8341-Oculus-Rift-Discussion&p=736912#post736912
Ged said that he needs to confirm it even after GamesCom. If anyone wants to quote my recent post in that thread since I ended up at the bottom of a page when I asked, please feel free.
Ged said that he needs to confirm it even after GamesCom. If anyone wants to quote my recent post in that thread since I ended up at the bottom of a page when I asked, please feel free.
DouglasteR
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Just received mine.
I think something's wrong, everything is blurry and with aberration everywhere !
I can barely read labels in Elite !
I think something's wrong, everything is blurry and with aberration everywhere !
I can barely read labels in Elite !
Oh, I have no idea about that. I just know previously that people were avoiding posting about it due to NDA restrictions. I've edited out the image in my quote just in case.
Did you configure it before using trying Elite? Do you have issues with other games?
DouglasteR
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Im inclined to believe thats related to eye settings in the oculus config tool.
I ran HL2 and the game was really blurry, i almost couldnt read anything.
In ED, the labels in the HUD are blurry and the chromatic aberration is HYPER present at the screen edges, to the point that i can see the colors separated.
Also, ED is ultra heavy now. I can run it just fine in my monitor (everything at maximum, plus FXAA), but with the DK2 the game crawls, barely hitting 40 fps (Vsyng on or off !)
In regards to ED performance. I think even the highest range PCs are having trouble with judder and FPS. Hoping a patch to the latest SDK goes a long way.
DouglasteR
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Just played 4 maps of Quake2VR and is much, much better than the ED implementation.
Hopefully next patch will solve some problems.
Maybe I misunderstood you, but I was talking about the CV2
It would be a genuine miracle if CV1 was 4K.. I wouldn't mind though.. Could run it at lower resolution if needed (and it would..)
I feel the same and I think it's the general consensus. Probably increasing sensitivity of the analog sticks would help? I never tried.
Yeah, I've posted about it before. I think the slow, continuous turning of the controller messes with your brain much more htan the quick flick of the mouse.
Turin Turambar
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Nop, we need for DK2 compatibility on software like VorpX for that. ( should be """""soon""""" from what they say )
While I'm also waiting for it I really don't know how a stable 75 fps is even an option in Arma 3, a guess lowering the rendering distance will be one of the first thing to do, with the DK2 resolution it won't matter anyway.
For what people were saying able 4K for CV2 and how much power you will need for that, let's not forget that a 4k screen would still be a huge improvement ( screen door effect ) even if you don't render at that resolution.
But I must say I'm already afraid about CV1 and it's most likely 1400p + 90fps. If only the rendering was optimised for SLI ( or the other way around ).....
4k@90Hz is 5x the number of pixels per second compared to 1080p@75Hz. You aren't likely to get 5x GPU performance in 5 years - at current rates you'd be lucky to double performance in that time. Need a big step forward for that eg multi-GPUs and no SLI issues
Canis lupus
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Does the positional tracking not track how much I move forward and backward? I didn't seem to get closer to the desk or away from it when moving my head in the demo.
90FPS and 1440p has little to do with "life-like graphics", which are usually associated with photorealism.
VR needs fast refresh rates and high resolution for immersion purposes - even if the art direction is not life-like. You could (and probably can) play Tetris in VR, which doesn't look like much, but it still needs to run at high FPS and resolution as to not induce vomit.
Depends on the demo. Most of them don't use it, but it's there.
What demo?
If the software is done properly then yes, it should track how much you move your head forward and backwards.
Did you guys get used to the controller? This is such a shame since I think fps VR is best experienced standing up.
revolverjgw
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It's the demo in the Config utility, couldn't get closer to the desk no matter how deep I looked.
Also stupid question, is there anything I need to set in the Nvida control panel, like the 3D settings?
Hm, that's weird, the desk demo actually has a very high positional tracking volume. There is an option to display the camera boundaries within the demo. Maybe you wanna try that and reposition the camera.
abracadaver
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AaaaaAAaaaAAAaaAAAAaAAAAA!!! for the Awesome now supports DK2
Oh god. I own neither, but a panic-induced piddle happened when I read that and tried to imagine the gameplay.
Betta Lines
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No 3D settings.
It sounds like your camera isn't working. I imagine leaning side to side does nothing too?
I'm on a 670 and the Realistic Rendering demo is completely smooth.
Yeah and it's pretty rad! Also supports Direct HMD access which is awesome! Silky smooth 75fps low persistence goodness out of the box.
I still wonder how to get Mountain (http://store.steampowered.com/app/313340) to work with the Rift... Steam forums say hit "5" but it doesn't do anything for me :/
Sweet. I hope they update their Robot Porno game for DK2 as well. That plays like a stripped down Quake 3, and I find it really fun.
And it's amazing. It was hard to go back to work after trying it at the lunch break.
What is this and where do i do that
Library > Tools > SteamVR (rightclick) > Properties > Betas > select beta from the dropdown menu. SteamVR should then update and work with DK2.
Thx it's now recognized but of course doesn't work in direct mode nor in extended one (i tried estranged). If i need to put the rift in primary display to use it, fuck them. It shouldn't be a mess like that to use soft that are meant to be upgraded to the dk2.. This is just too much of a mess.
Canis lupus
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Seems like I didn't put the camera in a good position, I can get close now, but not too close, there seems to be an invisible wall.
You should ask for your money back. How dare they!
Yeah. Didn't care for the game before, but now... woah. Feels like it was meant for the Rift, even though it was made before.