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[marrec]

He robbed a place and just ran into a cop. He probably though they knew about it.

"OH NO! The cops know I shoplifted a 6 dollar pack of smokes!

TIME TO GET MY BLACK RAGE ON!

I'm not going to jail!

You'll have to kill me first!!!!"

Or, you know, the cop acted like a fool. Which has happened multiple times across multiple states this month. I guess some black criminal trying to steal a cops gun is more likely to you?

 

[J10]

Am I the only sane person who thinks the cop is not guilty of anything serious here, The dude just finished robbing a place and was probably on edge and paranoid when stopped by the cop.

You might have missed a few details.

 

[Eyemus Lutt]

You keep talking about Brown's actions but you said you think the cop "is not guilty of anything serious here"

Why do you think the cop's action are not serious?

Because it was most likely self defence. Having a Giant guy coming at you trying to take away your gun is a serious situation.

"OH NO! The cops know I shoplifted a 6 dollar pack of smokes!

TIME TO GET MY BLACK RAGE ON!

I'm not going to jail!

You'll have to kill me first!!!!"

Or, you know, the cop acted like a fool. Which has happened multiple times across multiple states this month. I guess some black criminal trying to steal a cops gun is more likely to you?

I don't know about you but my first instinct is not to defend someone who just robbed a place and I'd rather take the side of a police officer with no bad records against his name.

 

[Funky Papa]

Not that anybody is is asking for them, but regarding that dumbass bimbo on Vine, water cannons are rarely deployed in Europe because they can literally squish your eyeballs out of their sockets.

High pressure jets of water are no joke at short distances.

 

[EdibleKnife]

Because it was most likely self defence. Having a Giant guy coming at you trying to take away your gun is a serious situation.

6-8 shots including 2 in the head from over 30 feet away is self-defense? Let's not forget the majority witnesses saying this Juggernaut-esque run didn't happen.

 

[Team Top Hat]

Because it was most likely self defence. Having a Giant guy coming at you trying to take away your gun is a serious situation.

Is there proof of this? There wasn't gun residue on his body which suggest he was far away from the police officer.

 

[marrec]

Because it was most likely self defence. Having a Giant guy coming at you trying to take away your gun is a serious situation.

What makes you think he would go from shoplifting a pack of smokes to ATTACKING AN ARMED OFFICER?

Like, how is THAT more logical than this cop flipping his wig and shooting him?

 

[Jaeger]

Am I the only sane person who thinks the cop is not guilty of anything serious here, The dude just finished robbing a place and was probably on edge and paranoid when stopped by the cop.

He didn't steal anything, actually. Please stop spreading lies and misinformation. He paid for his cigars, and no chargers or calls were ever made about any theft from that store.

http://www.dailykos.com/story/2014/...m-His-Store-Called-Cops-To-Report-Cigar-Theft
http://www.addictinginfo.org/2014/08/18/ferguson-pd-busted/

And even if he DID (and he didn't), that's reason to kill him? Right fucking there? No court, no trial in front of peers? Just Fucking executed right there in the street? For some petty theft??! (which he didn't even do).

Yea, please go somewhere else with your ignorance.

 

[alstein]

It was only a matter of time in the modern social media age until the magnifying glass was turned from war-torn middle east and such-forth to the decaying America thats been left to rot in many ways for decades.

Arresting journalists, shooing out Amnesty -- this is the level of fictional pecking order places like Ferguson are run under where police power has taken on a life of its own. Its pretty bizarre to watch for the rest of the western world really, especially here in the UK.

Gonna be interesting to see whats gonna be done about this whole situation. You'd think nation wide stricter police employment directives would go out, but I imagine most are just hoping this will settle down and go away. Then something similar will happen in another state, and away we go.

The one thing that could get it done is that this isn't a left-right issue, there are Tea Party types and hard leftie types who both want to do something, and both those branches are ascending in each party respectively (partially out of radicalization)

The US is headed for some "interesting" times in about 7 years. (my prediction 2021)

 

[More_Badass]

Because it was most likely self defence. Having a Giant guy coming at you trying to take away your gun is a serious situation.

I see. Thanks for clarifying

Did you know there are several eye witness reports that Brown didn't rush the officer, but was shot away from him, with his hands up? Or that there were no evidence of struggle or gun shot residue on Brown's body?

 

[Frank Lemon]

The shop-owner said nothing happened that he felt was important or illegal so it's really not important anymore. It all started from a misunderstanding by a customer. We don't know the reason for what is happening in the video but it doesn't matter. Nothing important happened and it's not related anyways.

Wait, is this true? The store clerk in the video that was released said this?

edit - I see the links a couple posts above me. Holy fucking shit!

 

[Mael]

Because it was most likely self defence. Having a Giant guy coming at you trying to take away your gun is a serious situation.



I don't know about you but my first instinct is not to defend someone who just robbed a place and I'd rather take the side of a police officer with no bad records against his name.

WTF am I reading?
Fox News comments?

 

[soundahfekz]

WTF am I reading?
Fox News comments?

Neogaf when the grass is cut the snakes will show comments

 

[FiggyCal]

He didn't steal anything, actually. Please stop spreading lies and misinformation. He paid for his cigars, and no chargers or calls were ever made about any theft from that store.

http://www.dailykos.com/story/2014/...m-His-Store-Called-Cops-To-Report-Cigar-Theft
http://www.addictinginfo.org/2014/08/18/ferguson-pd-busted/

And even if he DID (and he didn't), that's reason to kill him? Right fucking there? No court, no trial in front of peers? Just Fucking executed right there in the street? For some petty theft??! (which he didn't even do).

Yea, please go somewhere else with your ignorance.

Just to be clear: the Dailykos link only mentions that the store owner and employees did not call the police and that they didn't offer the video footage, but rather had a warrant from the city to do so.

 

[TheFatOne]

Because it was most likely self defence. Having a Giant guy coming at you trying to take away your gun is a serious situation.



I don't know about you but my first instinct is not to defend someone who just robbed a place and I'd rather take the side of a police officer with no bad records against his name.

Exhibit A on why the police released the stills/video of brown.

 

[Yrael]

I don't believe that 6 witnesses are all saying the same story and yet I'm supposed to take the word of the one guy that has a reason to lie.

This is what's so infuriating to me. Six individuals, all there at the scene of the crime (and one of them actually live-tweeting during the killing), can give basically the same account of what happened - and yet they're still not believed. In the meantime, so many of those expressing extreme levels of skepticism of these eyewitness reports will jump on anything that paints Brown as being violent towards the police man, no matter how tenuous - like a background conversation in one of the videos that might not have even been talking about Brown.

Edit:

If a mod finds this stuff worthy of OP, here it is.

I compiled a list of videos and witness accounts to hope that helps people narrow in this piece of information since some come in without really knowing just how many witnesses have a similar story:
Michael Brown's friend who was with him, Dorian Johnson (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qQeni0qt8Vo)
Tiffany Mitchell (http://www.msnbc.com/the-last-word-...o-brown-shooting-tells-her-story-318326851993)
Piaget Crenshaw (http://www.ksdk.com/videos/news/local/2014/08/13/14007133/)
Guy, no name given (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tfy5FiqzWHI)
Bruh, tweets immediately after shooting (https://twitter.com/7im/timelines/499639344613695488)
Woman, no name given (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_qo14KOcQxw)

The already linked autopsy info:
http://www.nytimes.com/2014/08/18/u...he-was-shot-at-least-6-times.html?smid=tw-bna

 

[marrec]

I don't know about you but my first instinct is not to defend someone who just robbed a place and I'd rather take the side of a police officer with no bad records against his name.

I wonder why your first instinct is to attack the character of Mike Brown...

Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm........

 

[mre]

Things like that only matter when you're elected.

Actually, some cities have residency requirements for their police officers and other employees. Here's a (poor) example of this: http://triblive.com/news/adminpage/5759377-74/requirement-arbitrator-outside#axzz3AqPaHPl4

It's a poor example because an arbitrator overturned the requirement, but that had more to do with the particular contract between the city and Pittsburgh PD union than it did the legality of the residency requirement.

 

[Eyemus Lutt]

I wonder why your first instinct is to attack the character of Mike Brown...

Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm........

The opposite reason everyone assumes the cop is a racist that went out that morning hoping to kill a black guy.

 

[Ninja Scooter]

The opposite same reason everyone assumes the cop is a racist that went out that morning hoping to kill a black guy.

Well one person shot an unarmed man 6 times and twice in the head and the other didn't. You figure it out.

 

[marrec]

The opposite same reason everyone assumes the cop is a racist that went out that morning hoping to kill a black guy.

That's a mighty nice looking strawman.

Truly you're the only sane person in all of NeoGAF seeing this cop for the hero he is.

 

[Jaeger]

The opposite reason everyone assumes the cop is a racist that went out that morning hoping to kill a black guy.

Stop posting for a second, and look at what I posted.

 

[Mael]

The opposite reason everyone assumes the cop is a racist that went out that morning hoping to kill a black guy.

You mean to say that we don't watch Fox News?

 

[Gonzalez]

He didn't steal anything, actually. Please stop spreading lies and misinformation. He paid for his cigars, and no chargers or calls were ever made about any theft from that store.

http://www.dailykos.com/story/2014/...m-His-Store-Called-Cops-To-Report-Cigar-Theft
http://www.addictinginfo.org/2014/08/18/ferguson-pd-busted/

The first article doesn't really dispute that he stole anything. Just that the owner, or any of his employees called 911.

...And the second one is just speculation. Like what goes on in here.

 

[jett]

 

[FiggyCal]

Stop posting for a second, and look at what I posted.

Sorry, friend. If Mike Brown hadn't stolen anything than Dorian's lawyer would've just come out to clarify the situation.

 

[BFIB]

I went to bed a little after midnight last night, did I miss anything else overnight?

EDIT: Nevermind. just read up on KSDK. 2 people shot!?

 

[Corronchilejano]

The opposite reason everyone assumes the cop is a racist that went out that morning hoping to kill a black guy.

No one is saying that. Go read the OP.

Whatever the cops frame of mind was, what we can all agree in is that witness accounts point to Brown being executed in the middle of the street after something still not quite clear happened.

He was shot six times, twice in the head, after surrendering.

 

[Eyemus Lutt]

Stop posting for a second, and look at what I posted.

I read those and they say the owner didn't call the cops but a customer did. But the video still shows him robbing the place otherwise why would the customer call in the first place.

 

[Jaeger]

The first article doesn't really dispute that he stole anything. Just that the owner, or any of his employees called 911.

...And the second one is just speculation. Like what goes on in here.

...you don't think that has any significance? How can someone be suspected of theft with no actual theft of any kind reported?

What is this, the fucking Twilight Zone?

I read those and they say the owner didn't call the cops but a customer did. But the video still shows him robbing the place otherwise why would the customer call in the first place.

Jesus Christ;

The video shows him paying for them.

 

[marrec]

This cop doesn't have to wake up wanting to kill black kids to be racist. That's not how modern racism works Eyemus.

 

[Nabs]

I went to bed a little after midnight last night, did I miss anything else overnight?

They forced the media to leave and then tear gassed the neighborhoods. I'd recommend going back a few pages and checking out some of the twitter comments/pics. Shit got kind of nuts.

 

[EdibleKnife]

The opposite reason everyone assumes the cop is a racist that went out that morning hoping to kill a black guy.

Please clarify why the testimony of the majority witnesses in this case matters little to you.

 

[More_Badass]

The opposite reason everyone assumes the cop is a racist that went out that morning hoping to kill a black guy.

It doesn't matter if the cop was racist or not, if the cop was white or black or Hispanic or Asian, if Brown robbed a place or not. A cop shot an unarmed man who was surrendering with his hands up. That's what matters

 

[Gonzalez]

...you don't think that has any significance? How can someone be suspected of theft with no actual theft of any kind reported?

What is this, the fucking Twilight Zone?

If you were a shop owner in that current hostile town, would you want to incite the angry mob by looking like you're helping the police?

EDIT:...BTW a customer called it in

 

[Veritigo_X]

I read those and they say the owner didn't call the cops but a customer did. But the video still shows him robbing the place otherwise why would the customer call in the first place.

You say robbing like he's got a gun and emptying the register. He stole a pack of cigarillos. A petty crime not warranting getting killed.

 

[Jaeger]

If you were a shop owner in that current hostile town, would you want to incite the angry mob by looking like you're helping the police?

Here are the facts; Brown was innocent of any crime prior to him being shot over 6 times in the back, while unarmed.

Nothing else fucking matters.

 

[Corronchilejano]

If you were a shop owner in that current hostile town, would you want to incite the angry mob by looking like you're helping the police?

Thefts are reported as they happen. After the fact, no one in the store reported anything to the police.

 

[Weiss]

Umm, actually we should play devil's advocate but you know we don't know the whole story and I, you know, trust my police officers because they've always been nice to me not saying Mike Brown did anything but look at the facts police officers don't just shoot unarmed civilians, like there's no precedent for this at all so we should wait until all the facts are there, you know.

There. I've saved every police apologist the time of writing their own whinging diatribe. Just copy/paste this for the next time an American police officer shoots an unarmed black male so we can get back to the important topics.

 

[Gonzalez]

Thefts are reported as they happen. After the fact, no one in the store reported anything to the police.

Like I put in my edit a customer called it in.

 

[Gaz_RB]

He didn't steal anything, actually. Please stop spreading lies and misinformation. He paid for his cigars, and no chargers or calls were ever made about any theft from that store.

http://www.dailykos.com/story/2014/...m-His-Store-Called-Cops-To-Report-Cigar-Theft
http://www.addictinginfo.org/2014/08/18/ferguson-pd-busted/

And even if he DID (and he didn't), that's reason to kill him? Right fucking there? No court, no trial in front of peers? Just Fucking executed right there in the street? For some petty theft??! (which he didn't even do).

Yea, please go somewhere else with your ignorance.

To be frank, I really wish this would stop being posted. Mike Brown stole cigarellos. It was confirmed by his friend that was with him. While that should not have any real impact on the conversation of why an unarmed 18 year old was shot dead, I'd appreciate it if we at least kept the facts straight.

Here are the facts; Brown was innocent of any crime prior to him being shot over 6 times in the back, while unarmed.

Nothing else fucking matters.

Again, he was not shot in the back. We're all angry, but using things that aren't true to try to prove a point is not going to help Mike Brown get justice.

 

[mbmonk]

Here are the facts; Brown was innocent of any crime prior to him being shot over 6 times in the back, while unarmed.

Nothing else fucking matters.

6 times in the back? I thought the autopsy from the family said he was shot from the front? Where is the shot in the back claim coming from?

 

[Althane]

Here are the facts; Brown was innocent of any crime prior to him being shot over 6 times in the back, while unarmed.

Nothing else fucking matters.

Was he shot in the back? Last I was reading this topic, they were saying the autopsy reports were indicating he was shot in the front.

 

[CrankyJay]

6 times in the back? I thought the autopsy from the family said it was from the front? Where is the shot in the back claim coming from?

He's mistaken.

 

[Nappuccino]

Thefts are reported as they happen. After the fact, no one in the store reported anything to the police.

Having worked at a gas station, you don't really have the time or care to report a theft of less than a few dollars.

Unless they stole from a customer, that is.

But again, stealing some cigars is not reason to be shot at, ever.

 

[mre]

...you don't think that has any significance? How can someone be suspected of theft with no actual theft of any kind reported?

What is this, the fucking Twilight Zone?

The police were called by a witness in the store, so the fact that the shop owner/clerk did not call the police is irrelevant as they'd already been notified.

 

[soundahfekz]

Here are the facts; Brown was innocent of any crime prior to him being shot over 6 times in the back, while unarmed.

Nothing else fucking matters.

of course it does. Weed and it's effects on the black fast twitch muscle fibers, the rage inducing dehumanizing stare, and the Street fighter Alpha like charge up meter blacks have when guns are pointed at them. These are all relevant and justify the killing

 

[Eyemus Lutt]

Here are the facts; Brown was innocent of any crime prior to him being shot over 6 times in the back, while unarmed.

Nothing else fucking matters.

Is this top comment true or not about how many shots? The top comment says they just released a statement saying 3 of the bullet wounds came from 1 bullet.

 

[Mael]

To be frank, I really wish this would stop being posted. Mike Brown stole cigarellos. It was confirmed by his friend that was with him. While that should not have any real impact on the conversation of why an unarmed 18 year old was shot dead, I'd appreciate it if we at least kept the facts straight.



Again, he was not shot in the back. We're all angry, but using things that aren't true to try to prove a point is not going to help Mike Brown get justice.

Wasn't his friend the one that did the stealing anyway?

 

[marrec]

of course it does. Weed and it's effects on the black fast twitch muscle fibers, the rage inducing dehumanizing stare, and the Street fighter Alpha like charge up meter blacks have when guns are pointed at them. These are all relevant and justify the killing

The cop was a nice white man who was just trying to defend god and country.

Lets wait for all the facts to be presented. And by facts I mean character defamation of Brown and his associates.