Ferguson: Police Kill 18yo Black Male; Fire Gas/Rubber Bullets Into Protesting Crowds

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Correct me if I am wrong, but wasn't this the guy (head of the New Black Panthers) who was at one of the first press conferences claiming that his group was going to be keeping the peace?

Yes. But MOST of the protesters want him gone (as I hear it) including Mike Brown's parents.
 
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That's gotta hurt...

What is she spraying?
 
That McDonalds is private property. If McDonalds wants them to leave, the police can arrest all the protesters for trespassing. But McDonalds employees/manager would have to tell the police to move them. Otherwise the police have no business moving them.

I have no idea if that McDonalds has made calls to the police.
 
Yes but once a waterbottle gets thrown, they get aggressive.

The worst part is, they're making an enemy out of the one group (The journalists) who could be their biggest ally. It's one thing if a journalist gets too close or something, but forcing them all into a media zone will not help them.
 
@elonjames: Had a heart to heart w/ some of the organizers & voices on the ground. We've come to the conclusion we can't keep staying out here at night.

@elonjames: Getting tear gassed every night isn't getting the work done. We've proven whats happening. RT @chrislhayes: @me that's interesting. Why?

@chrislhayes: @elonjames I've heard more and more of that. Every night ending in tear gas isn't bringing things closer to justice.

@elonjames: We've already proven that the police are lying and have a blatant disregard for our safety. They aren't here to protect. @chrislhayes

@chrislhayes: @elonjames it's funny you say that. Last night I had the feeling that this had become some kind of toxic ritual.

I think it's a good idea. It seems like the asshole come out at night. Let them get arrested. Not the good people.
 
I was getting gas at the pump Saturday morning after a long night of work. This black guy who looked around my age was in a car with some white girl. He started fucking yelling at this old white man in a truck, I don't even know what about. He then began yelling about me being a rude hillbilly white motherfucker and said he would knock my teeth out.

I didn't even realize he was telling about me till I was in my car on the highway processing his words. The first thing I thought of was Ferguson and how this git could have been blowing off steam. I was looking at him as he ranged out but he never looked my way.

I have a biracial family that means more to me than anything. That whole experience has put me in a Funk. I'm not angry at the guy, I'm not angry at what happened to me personally, but Im very upset about the whole atmosphere that breeds this dirty if hate.

I don't understand this discussion about cracker versus other racial terms. On a base level, saying that you can never be offended by a racial slur is asinine. If you want to delineate based on systemic oppression and power dynamics, then that's a nuanced discussion that probably doesn't need to occur in this thread.

As for everyone downplaying the term's effect on a personal level, I grew up in an area with an over 90% white population, with almost every minority being Native American. Someone in my community was called a "cracker" multiple times by two Native Americans in public. This was not uncommon, as tensions sometimes run high between white people and Native Americans in that community. But in this case, he was called a "cracker" while walking down the sidewalk before he had his fucking head caved in with baseball bats. They literally didn't know him and had never seen him before, but they put him in a coma. He never recovered from his injuries and died several years later.

That doesn't change that Native Americans are routinely treated as second class citizens still to this day, and most of them are the poorest members of my old community. They are discriminated against on the very soil taken from them, but their plight is not undermined by acknowledging that minorities can dehumanize. So obviously the attack I mentioned goes deeper socially than just some rogue bad apples, but it's still fucking dehumanizing when that word comes from someone who actively does or wants to cause you harm based on your skin color alone. I don't give a shit how you try to justify it.
 
Tim, post a thread here, we got tech advice about what microcell you need, batteries, cameras, what smartphone to buy, what the good marvel movies are, what comics to buy...
 
Officer with his assault rifle up in the air pointed directly at what I assume is mainly if not all media on the other side of a small fence from them on CNN.
 
I was getting gas at the pump Saturday morning after a long night of work. This black guy who looked around my age was in a car with some white girl. He started fucking yelling at this old white man in a truck, I don't even know what about. He then began yelling about me being a rude hillbilly white motherfucker and said he would knock my teeth out.

I didn't even realize he was telling about me till I was in my car on the highway processing his words. The first thing I thought of was Ferguson and how this git could have been blowing off steam. I was looking at him as he ranged out but he never looked my way.

I have a biracial family that means more to me than anything. That whole experience has put me in a Funk. I'm not angry at the guy, I'm not angry at what happened to me personally, but Im very upset about the whole atmosphere that breeds this dirty if hate.

There's a thread here where this would be more appropriate. http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=878633

My apologies for participating in the derail.
 
Local report.

52 people arrested last night. 4 were from Ferguson. There are large groups of agitators not from MO here stirring things up. Malik Shabazz being the worst offender. Mike Brown's parents have asked him to leave and he won't. Not a good person.

Ferguson has been hijacked by these types, and eventually the good people of Ferguson and the surrounding areas are going to join together to get rid of them. It's disgusting that these people couldn't care less about anything but their own priorities.

And in the middle of so many of these groups of out of town agitators are almost as many media members also disobeying police orders to clear the street. They're fueled by the hits and followers they get.

If you removed all the out of town agitators and the members of the media that don't genuinely care about anything but hits you'd have nothing but peaceful protests right now.

Makes me sick. I have friends who's kids can't go to school. Local owned businesses are losing countless dollars.

I get the outrage. I support the outrage. But these opportunists need to go the fuck home.

All the negative racist shit said by the bigots at my job about this situation stem from these opportunists. White America can't see the good through all the stupid, and it's sad as fuck.

If I hear my coworkers calling for the deaths of more people I'm almost ready to quit
 
At least that trooper talking to Tim and the nearby locals was being helpful, kindly telling them where to go and what to do when they get there. Whoever is on this megaphone is sounding like a jerk. "Get out of our way so we can do our jobs."
 
All the negative racist shit said by the bigots at my job about this situation stem from these opportunists. White America can't see the good through all the stupid, and it's sad as fuck.

If I hear my coworkers calling for the deaths of more people I'm almost ready to quit

Anybody who is intelligent and is following the events can see the good.

The racist fucking idiots in this country can't see shit. They will always see what they want. There are plenty of Americans who are happy that black people get killed by cops and they don't even hide it.
 
All the negative racist shit said by the bigots at my job about this situation stem from these opportunists. White America can't see the good through all the stupid, and it's sad as fuck.

If I hear my coworkers calling for the deaths of more people I'm almost ready to quit

I have this tiny, tiny thing in my head where I hesitate to paint them as opportunists.
Not saying that kind of thing isnt happening, clearly it is. Some people from San Diego? Please. (I live there) But I also do not want to discount people who have literally the same desire for justice because of things that have happened to/near them in their community, and are coming here because this is where they feel they can be heard. Lord knows we all know wanting to be heard is a very real desire, he said, posting to the internet forum of strangers.
 
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