"I Need a New PC!" 2014 Part 2. Read OP, your 2500K will run Witcher 3. MX100s! 970!

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I bought a GTX 760 (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814125466) and the fan noise is fairly noticeable. Is this normal?

I have that card. Check to see that the 3 fans are spinning properly. When I first got mine, the middle fan would sometimes refuse to spin. All I did was turn off the pc and spin the fan with my finger for a little while and it started working. I haven't had that problem for a while now though.
 
And maybe replace the PSU with an EVGA G2 w/ proper braided cables. And the motherboard for X97 with a 5820K.

It never stops.

Great setup and pics!

I'm looking to upgrade my PSU in the future when the GTX 880s come out. Are EVGA PSUs any good? I'm currently using an Antec 650w.
 
I've seen a lot of worrying about the 2500k and whether you should upgrade to a newer one. Here's a guy who tested the performance difference between a 2500k and a i7 4790K. He was using a titan for GPU.

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I think you can probably wait a little bit longer for the hexacores instead.
 
On mobile in a shitty small town. So sorry for brevity, but Haswell-E seems to be on sale at Amazon!

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00MMLXIKY/?tag=neogaf0e-20

It's coming in and out of stock, sometimes ships in two weeks, sometimes ships now. Good luck... Maybe?
Nice spot. I've been checking various UK outlets every day for 2011-3/X99 components and all that's available is RAM.

Similar note, should I be expecting much better than CL15 for quad channel DDR4 at this stage?
 
I've seen a lot of worrying about the 2500k and whether you should upgrade to a newer one. Here's a guy who tested the performance difference between a 2500k and a i7 4790K. He was using a titan for GPU.

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I think you can probably wait a little bit longer for the hexacores instead.

That is a wonderful chart. Confirms everything we've heard. Keeping my 2500k for now :)

Couple games with a big jump but not worth the cost increase in the slightest.

Just going to focus on new GPU. 880 or 870 will fit the bill.
 
I've seen a lot of worrying about the 2500k and whether you should upgrade to a newer one. Here's a guy who tested the performance difference between a 2500k and a i7 4790K. He was using a titan for GPU.

http://i.imgur.com/nqaywzM.png

I think you can probably wait a little bit longer for the hexacores instead.

You really shouldn't trust benchmarks from random guy on forum.

There's no way to verify if he knew how to benchmark properly and with certain games showing 2500K being faster there's high probability he tested those games in gpu limited test place.

And with the amount of games he tested it's extremly unlikely he examined each one of them to find places where repetable benchmark of cpu limited scenario can be made.

But i agree on no point in swapping 2500k for anything with less than 6 cores ;)
 
Due to recent events I am now on a tight budget for a pc! I orginially planned for a 4690k/z97 but now could maybe only afford a 2nd hand i5 2500k / mobo combo. Im just wondering if this will be much of an upgrade from my Q6600 I currently have?

Thanks.
 
I've seen a lot of worrying about the 2500k and whether you should upgrade to a newer one. Here's a guy who tested the performance difference between a 2500k and a i7 4790K. He was using a titan for GPU.

nqaywzM.png


I think you can probably wait a little bit longer for the hexacores instead.
Equal clocks? Because, if at "stock", then the 4790K has a pretty silly advantage that shouldn't exist in the benchmark.

Given that the positive changes were in games which only use 1-2 threads and are highly reliant on IPC, I have a feeling that is the case. Which means, ignore the shit out of it. Then lynch the person for posting such silly information.
 
On mobile in a shitty small town. So sorry for brevity, but Haswell-E seems to be on sale at Amazon!


http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00MMLXIKY/?tag=neogaf0e-20

It's coming in and out of stock, sometimes ships in two weeks, sometimes ships now. Good luck... Maybe?

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Some full links.

The are incorrectly listed as Socket 1156 currently in the comparison list, are correct in the description.
 
Intel Core i7-5820K 3.3 GHz Haswell-E Processor with Unlock Multipliers BX80648I75820K - $394.99 (FREE Shipping)

Intel Core i7-5930K 3.5 GHz Haswell-E Processor with Unlock Multipliers BX80648I75930K - $645.26 ($9.45 Shipping - Not Sold by Amazon.com)

Intel Core i7-5960X 3.0 GHz Extreme Haswell-E Processor BX80648I75960X - $1,049.99 (FREE Shipping)


Some full links.

The are incorrectly listed as Socket 1156 currently in the comparison list, are correct in the description.

So let's say you were planning to put SLI 880s or 980s in your PC down the line, would you be better off getting the 5930K or the 5820K? Or does it really only matter if you get 3x GPUs?
 
This is a little bit too expensive in the UK! On amazon.co.uk one of these is £90, thats $149. Am I basically looking for some kind of mini vacuum?
That is actually a duster, not a vacuum. No matter what the name of it is, it blows, not sucks.

So let's say you were planning to put SLI 880s or 980s in your PC down the line, would you be better off getting the 5930K or the 5820K? Or does it really only matter if you get 3x GPUs?

The i7-5820K is rumored to only have 28 PCI-E lanes and the i7-5930K/i7-5960X has 40 lanes.

EDIT: The above is apparently not rumored anymore due to the X99 Manual leaks on Gigabyte's site but as the processors haven't launch it isn't "official" yet as Intel has released the official info

With PCI-E 3.0 we are no where even close to saturating the bandwidth so even two cards running at 8X speed shouldn't matter too much (as the 28 lanes is not enough for 2 cards at 16X) but if you are dropping enough money for multiple high end GPU setups you probably want the best of the best and will avoid the 5820K.

If you are running 3 cards you basically need the 5930K/5960X.
 
So let's say you were planning to put SLI 880s or 980s in your PC down the line, would you be better off getting the 5930K or the 5820K? Or does it really only matter if you get 3x GPUs?
Depends on the motherboard.

If there's a PLX chip, it doesn't matter. If there is no PLX chip, then you'd want the 5930K.
 
I'm still researching for what will be my first ever PC build. I want something that can handle modern games at max settings (at 1080p, 60fps), as well as decent PS2/Wii emulation in HD, without going above ~£1500. I won't be buying anything until at least early October, but if I was looking to buy right now, would this build be good, am I missing anything or is there anything I would be recommended to change? Should I be going for faster RAM? Would cooling be adequate with stock cooling systems for the case, CPU and GPU (no overclocking) and how loud would it be when running at full load? Should I be buying any additional software or hardware to automatically adjust the fan speeds for the case and components (like how a laptop or console will run quietly when it's not undergoing heavy usage)? If I were to overclock the CPU later, what would I have to change (and how difficult would that be)?

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Core i7-4790K 4.0GHz Quad-Core Processor (£236.34 @ Aria PC)
Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-Z97X-UD3H ATX LGA1150 Motherboard (£98.50 @ Ebuyer)
Memory: G.Skill Value Series 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR3-1333 Memory (£109.44 @ Amazon UK)
Storage: A-Data Premier Pro SP600 128GB 2.5" Solid State Drive (£48.84 @ Ebuyer)
Storage: Toshiba 3TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive (£69.54 @ Aria PC)
Video Card: EVGA GeForce GTX 780 Ti 3GB Superclocked ACX Video Card (£496.47 @ Amazon UK)
Case: NZXT Phantom 630 (White) ATX Full Tower Case (£89.59 @ Scan.co.uk)
Power Supply: Corsair CSM 750W 80+ Gold Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply (£71.99 @ Novatech)
Optical Drive: Pioneer BDC-207DBK Blu-Ray Reader, DVD/CD Writer (£38.78 @ Novatech)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 8 (OEM) (64-bit) (£72.77 @ Ebuyer)
Monitor: Asus VS228HR 60Hz 21.5" Monitor (£93.11 @ CCL Computers)
Wireless Network Adapter: Edimax EW-7811UTC 802.11a/b/g/n/ac USB 2.0 Wi-Fi Adapter (£11.99 @ Amazon UK)
Keyboard: Dell KB212-B Wired Ergonomic Keyboard (£10.49 @ Amazon UK)
Mouse: (Already got one I can use, so don't need to buy one)
Total: £1447.85
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2014-08-24 22:10 BST+0100

I can probably get Windows 8 free through Dreamspark from my university (depending on whether or not I can get my account re-registered), but I'm not sure if it can (physically and legally) be installed on a PC that doesn't already run Windows?

I'm also not sure about wether or not I should bother with the SSD. I rarely shut down my computer, instead I hibernate it to keep my programs open. Would hibernating it often (potentially 3 times a day when I'm at university) with a large amount of RAM be a problem for SSD write limits? If I do get one and make it my boot disk, can I set it to be the D:/ (and have the standard HDD as C:/) so that programs don't try to install to the SSD by default?

Finally, is transporting the computer likely to be an issue? Ideally l'd be wanting to transport it between home and university each term (~1.5hrs car journey each way). Would it be fine to just pack it in the box the case comes in and lie it down in the car with my other luggage, or is it likely to get damaged?

Sorry for asking so many questions every time I post
 
I think an SSD is worth it to be honest.

Also, just personal preference. But I think I would go after a bigger monitor. If spending £1500 maybe as well to have a decent screen to view it on.
 
I probably won't have much desk space in my student accommodation, which is why I went for 21.5". At home I'll plug it into the living room TV.
 
I think an SSD is worth it to be honest.

Also, just personal preference. But I think I would go after a bigger monitor. If spending £1500 maybe as well to have a decent screen to view it on.

Just what I was gonna say.

Also, stock cooling won't be very good. It will do the job pretty good, but it won't be quiet. For cooling I got a Corsair H80i a while back that I really like. I've adjusted the fan curves so the only thing I hear from it is the pump - and that's with my CPU overclocked 27%.

I probably won't have much desk space in my student accommodation, which is why I went for 21.5". At home I'll plug it into the living room TV.

A bigger monitor is well worth it and won't take up too much more room.
 
How limiting (in terms of cooling, cost and future upgrades) would it be to go for mATX?

I should have plenty of room to put the PC itself, it's just space on the desk itself that might be limited. I'll definitely consider a larger monitor though, space permitting (I'd definitely prefer a bigger screen if possible).
 
Just one question, why when a shut my rig down (running W8.1) any keys or input from the mouse is able to power it on. Like the state is sleep mode instead of a regular shutdown..?
 
How limiting (in terms of cooling, cost and future upgrades) would it be to go for mATX?

I should have plenty of room to put the PC itself, it's just space on the desk itself that might be limited. I'll definitely consider a larger monitor though, space permitting (I'd definitely prefer a bigger screen if possible).

LilJoka says it best.
mATX is more than enough, in fact you can SLI in mATX if you get the right case too. My own PC is enthusiast grade and is mATX. ATX is for either all out extreme things (money no object) or if youve had poor advice and dont know which board to pick so play it safe - this is what most first timers do.

Just one question, why when a shut my rig down (running W8.1) any keys or input from the mouse is able to power it on. Like the state is sleep mode instead of a regular shutdown..?

Do you have power on from USB enabled in your BIOS?
 
So my 560ti fans stopped spinning. Out of warranty by like 2 months. I can play League of Legends and some indy games without it overheating. I was almost about to buy a 770 and then read about the 800 series coming out by early October.

I have a 650w psu (corsair tx) and an OC'd 2500k so I don't even know if I can use a 800 series card without an upgraded psu. We'll see in about 2 weeks I think. I mainly want 4GB of VRAM for next-gen upcoming games like Witcher 3.
 
So my 560ti fans stopped spinning. Out of warranty by like 2 months. I can play League of Legends and some indy games without it overheating. I was almost about to buy a 770 and then read about the 800 series coming out by early October.

I have a 650w psu (corsair tx) and an OC'd 2500k so I don't even know if I can use a 800 series card without an upgraded psu. We'll see in about 2 weeks I think. I mainly want 4GB of VRAM for next-gen upcoming games like Witcher 3.

Well, in theory the 880 series should use less power (or the same amount of power more efficiently) than the 780 series due to the better power management of Maxwell over Kepler
 
So I'm looking to create a tower since I need an upgrade and it doesn't look like there's much improvement in power for a little while so no time like the present. Or probably around Black Friday so I can try to get some deals. But just so I have a starting point to plan for, I just received an Oculus Rift DK2, and it's making my computer scream. So what should be the GPU/CPU combination I should plan for? And what could I be expecting to spend?
 
So I'm looking to create a tower since I need an upgrade and it doesn't look like there's much improvement in power for a little while so no time like the present. Or probably around Black Friday so I can try to get some deals. But just so I have a starting point to plan for, I just received an Oculus Rift DK2, and it's making my computer scream. So what should be the GPU/CPU combination I should plan for? And what could I be expecting to spend?

I think the better way is "What do I want to spend?" and then go from there.

I started the other way round and my prospective next build is already north of $2,500 (Watercool all the things!!!)
 
I think the better way is "What do I want to spend?" and then go from there.

I started the other way round and my prospective next build is already north of $2,500 (Watercool all the things!!!)

Well I wanna make sure I have something powerful enough to run DK2 stuff well, but I guess my cutoff point might be around $1500? Also depends on if any nice parts go on sale around Black Friday
 
I feel the itch to upgrade start crawling upon me. I'm currently sitting on a 2500k and 770 but mainly just want some new stuff to fiddle around with. I'm thinking about a i7 4970k, but I don't really need it at the moment for what I'm doing with my PC.

Since I have no real need to upgrade as much as i want to upgrade - should I wait for Broadwell instead?

New stuff to fiddle with.....

H2O baby!!!!
 
Guys I need some advice. I'm strongly considering building a strong pc for gaming and using with VR. I currently have an asus rog laptop but the battery is dead and it is getting old. I have a decent understanding of the pc and pretty technically inclined. I've built rigs in the past but it's been many many years and I am completely out of the loop in regards to current technology. If I spend $1,500 to $2,000 not counting the monitor can I get 4k gaming and VR? Also is multiple gpus required for playable resolutions above 1080p?
 
I thought PLX should be avoided unless you're doing Tri or Quad GPU x_x

Talking strictly Dual SLI.
Oh right, yeah, then it doesn't matter really. You're not going to be bottlenecked by x8 PCI-E 3.0, just like with current consumer socket stuff that only has 16 PCI-E lanes.
 
I AM QUOTING THIS AGAIN TO MAKE SURE PEOPLE DISREGARD THE DATA PRESENTED.

THESE CHIPS WERE CLEARLY RUN AT STOCK SPEEDS, OR AT LEAST NOT SIMILAR SPEEDS. THE GAMES THAT HAVE A HUGE BOOST IN PERFORMANCE ARE KNOWN FOR ENJOYING HIGH FREQUENCY PROCS DUE TO USING 2 OR FEWER CORES, WHILE PUTTING STRAIN ON THE CPU.

THE 4790K IS BASICALLY AT 4.4 GHZ STOCK, WHEREAS THE 2500K IS 3.4 OR WHATEVER.

I've seen a lot of worrying about the 2500k and whether you should upgrade to a newer one. Here's a guy who tested the performance difference between a 2500k and a i7 4790K. He was using a titan for GPU.

nqaywzM.png


I think you can probably wait a little bit longer for the hexacores instead.
What happened? This isn't a new machine for you...is it?
I had a number of parts scattered throughout a few builds as a result of a LAN I hosted a few months ago. I had to put all of the best stuff back in one box.

4770K
780 Ti Kingpin Edition
Soundblaster ZxR
16GB DDR3 1866
240GB Samsung Evo

Before, the 4770K was paired with the 7970 Matrix, the ZxR was paired with 2500K/R9 290, and the KPE was not in anything as I pulled it out to sell it originally. Ended up keeping it. Getting the system up and running was a travesty, as I was almost certain the KPE was dead. Had to resort to updating BIOS via USB Flashback in order to fully reset it, which allowed me to use onboard video. The actual card didn't start working until I reformatted the SSD. Before it was causing hangups in POST. None of that makes sense, and I probably fixed it along the way somewhere prior to when I thought I did, but it still took forever and a day.
 
Having trouble thinking about where I want my future monitor purchases to go.

My room is relatively small and only has space for one TV / Monitor, or maybe two side by side at a squeeze. Theoretically I could put a big one there, like a 32" or something (Big for a monitor, I mean). In the shared rooms I can't guarantee that I'll have it to myself when I want it, naturally.

Currently I have a 1080p 60hz monitor that has one HDMI in and a DVI in. My PC is on DVI in and I use an HDMI splitter thing to juggle my WiiU, PS4 and XBO on the single input. When looking at G-synch monitors, they all tend to only have a single Display port input. This is problematic if HDMI in is the only way I can get consoles running on them.

I don't want to do 4k just yet, and I'm eager for G-sync. But I don't really need it. 1440p might have problems scaling for some games that only play nice with 1080p resolutions, and would look a bit suboptimal if I'm trying to play 1080p consoles on them. 720p wiiU should look fine.

Is there a way to go HDMI->DisplayPort? Does it work well? Would I be better just trying to set up an alternate TV for the consoles?
 
Having trouble thinking about where I want my future monitor purchases to go.

My room is relatively small and only has space for one TV / Monitor, or maybe two side by side at a squeeze. Theoretically I could put a big one there, like a 32" or something (Big for a monitor, I mean). In the shared rooms I can't guarantee that I'll have it to myself when I want it, naturally.

Currently I have a 1080p 60hz monitor that has one HDMI in and a DVI in. My PC is on DVI in and I use an HDMI splitter thing to juggle my WiiU, PS4 and XBO on the single input. When looking at G-synch monitors, they all tend to only have a single Display port input. This is problematic if HDMI in is the only way I can get consoles running on them.

I don't want to do 4k just yet, and I'm eager for G-sync. But I don't really need it. 1440p might have problems scaling for some games that only play nice with 1080p resolutions, and would look a bit suboptimal if I'm trying to play 1080p consoles on them. 720p wiiU should look fine.

Is there a way to go HDMI->DisplayPort? Does it work well? Would I be better just trying to set up an alternate TV for the consoles?

You can get an hdmi->display port adapter or cable. They work very well. I go the other way at work. My laptop has a display port output and my monitor is HDMI. No issues. Got the cables from monoprice.

Edit: here you go

http://www.monoprice.com/mobile/Pro...categoryId=10428&subCategoryId=1042801&cpnCd=
 
Having trouble thinking about where I want my future monitor purchases to go.

My room is relatively small and only has space for one TV / Monitor, or maybe two side by side at a squeeze. Theoretically I could put a big one there, like a 32" or something (Big for a monitor, I mean). In the shared rooms I can't guarantee that I'll have it to myself when I want it, naturally.

Currently I have a 1080p 60hz monitor that has one HDMI in and a DVI in. My PC is on DVI in and I use an HDMI splitter thing to juggle my WiiU, PS4 and XBO on the single input. When looking at G-synch monitors, they all tend to only have a single Display port input. This is problematic if HDMI in is the only way I can get consoles running on them.

I don't want to do 4k just yet, and I'm eager for G-sync. But I don't really need it. 1440p might have problems scaling for some games that only play nice with 1080p resolutions, and would look a bit suboptimal if I'm trying to play 1080p consoles on them. 720p wiiU should look fine.

Is there a way to go HDMI->DisplayPort? Does it work well? Would I be better just trying to set up an alternate TV for the consoles?
To get the HDMI->DP stuff to work, and this is IF it works, would require you to unplug the monitor in order to switch to the DP->HDMI->HDMI splitter, and that sounds like a fucking headache. You can't go DP->HDMI dongle->HDMI switch->consoles/PC, as the PC needs the DP in order for G-Sync to work. Does that make sense?

What about the VG248QE? Use it as both for the time being, and then buy the G-Sync DIY kit when you're ready to go G-Sync?
 
Well, in theory the 880 series should use less power (or the same amount of power more efficiently) than the 780 series due to the better power management of Maxwell over Kepler

See, I thought I read something along these lines.

I think I'll just wait for the 880 though. No need to step up, I can wait.
 
What about the VG248QE? Use it as both for the time being, and then buy the G-Sync DIY kit when you're ready to go G-Sync?

I don't want to fuck with the DIY kit so I'd want one that was already configured like that out of the box.

But I think I can import one for like 500 USD or something so that might be a serious option. How is the VG248QE in terms of being a quality monitor?
 
It lives!

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No cable management done yet. Just wanted to get the thing up and running before the GAF Europa Universalis game.

Now, to load up some EUIV multiplayer to really put it to the test.

And maybe replace the PSU with an EVGA G2 w/ proper braided cables. And the motherboard for X97 with a 5820K.

It never stops.

That's beautiful. Is that the Kingpin? Noticed the three power connections
 
Having trouble thinking about where I want my future monitor purchases to go.

My room is relatively small and only has space for one TV / Monitor, or maybe two side by side at a squeeze. Theoretically I could put a big one there, like a 32" or something (Big for a monitor, I mean). In the shared rooms I can't guarantee that I'll have it to myself when I want it, naturally.

Currently I have a 1080p 60hz monitor that has one HDMI in and a DVI in. My PC is on DVI in and I use an HDMI splitter thing to juggle my WiiU, PS4 and XBO on the single input. When looking at G-synch monitors, they all tend to only have a single Display port input. This is problematic if HDMI in is the only way I can get consoles running on them.

I don't want to do 4k just yet, and I'm eager for G-sync. But I don't really need it. 1440p might have problems scaling for some games that only play nice with 1080p resolutions, and would look a bit suboptimal if I'm trying to play 1080p consoles on them. 720p wiiU should look fine.

Is there a way to go HDMI->DisplayPort? Does it work well? Would I be better just trying to set up an alternate TV for the consoles?

Why not something like the 21:9 2560x1080p 29" from LG? Wide enough you could multitask on a PC, has a "dual link" thing so you can 2 different inputs displaying at once, 1080p so things like the TV/Console, etc.. will still work on it, has speakers.

Downside is it's still 60Hz, no G-Sync and (IMO) it's still 1080p.

There is the slightly larger 34" 1440p version as well.
 
I've seen a lot of worrying about the 2500k and whether you should upgrade to a newer one. Here's a guy who tested the performance difference between a 2500k and a i7 4790K. He was using a titan for GPU.

I think you can probably wait a little bit longer for the hexacores instead.
Even though he's using Titan, won't the rig still get GPU-limited at those resolutions? It might be better if he tests at 1080p or lower.
 

4770K
780 Ti Kingpin Edition
Soundblaster ZxR
16GB DDR3 1866
240GB Samsung Evo

Before, the 4770K was paired with the 7970 Matrix, the ZxR was paired with 2500K/R9 290, and the KPE was not in anything as I pulled it out to sell it originally. Ended up keeping it. Getting the system up and running was a travesty, as I was almost certain the KPE was dead. Had to resort to updating BIOS via USB Flashback in order to fully reset it, which allowed me to use onboard video. The actual card didn't start working until I reformatted the SSD. Before it was causing hangups in POST. None of that makes sense, and I probably fixed it along the way somewhere prior to when I thought I did, but it still took forever and a day.


That experience sounds like a great time.

I just finished a 1.5-2hr session troubleshooting my cards. I think the Titan Black in my first PCIe slot needs a RMA. Started getting nvlddmkm errors in BF4 (again) using the Tri-SLI setup. Removed drivers and installed the latest. I ran Tomb Raider, Hitman, and Heaven benchmarks. The first card failed these 3 tests twice. The other two cards did not crash and finished as expected.

The individual lane switches on the R4BE have been super helpful. Not having to individually take cards out and then re-install saved so much time. With 3 cards that process would have slayed me. Still need to do some more testing. Need to actually try the other cards in that first slot to make sure it is ok...but I think that first GPU will have to be sent in.

Sounds like we both had a fun filled PC weekend!
 
That experience sounds like a great time.

I just finished about 1.5-2hr session troubleshooting my cards. I think the Titan in my first PCIe slot needs a RMA. Started getting nvlddmkm errors in BF4 (again) using the Tri-SLI setup. Removed drivers and installed the latest. I ran Tomb Raider, Hitman, and Heaven benchmarks. The first card failed these 3 tests twice. The other two cards did not crash and finished as expected.

The individual lane switches on the R4BE have been super helpful. Not having to individually take cards out and then re-install saved so much time. Still need to do some more testing...but I think it will have to get sent in.

So it sounds like we both had a fun filled PC weekend!
Damn. Those PCI-E switches are the #1 feature that I thought sounded helpful as all getout on that board. Glad they're working out. Imagine if those three cards were all one assembly with waterblocks and a bridge. I honestly can't even imagine doing something like that (again) without that sort of feature.

I did get to play in the GAF EUIV MP game, followed by like 6 hours straight of Dirty Bomb. So, it turned out well enough :P
I don't want to fuck with the DIY kit so I'd want one that was already configured like that out of the box.

But I think I can import one for like 500 USD or something so that might be a serious option. How is the VG248QE in terms of being a quality monitor?
It's what I'm using at this moment to post. I have one with the AG coating removed, as I really prefer gloss panels. For someone unaccustomed to IPS type stuff, I love it. Durante hates it though.
 
GAF, what's generally the best way to sell a gaming PC?

I built one not too long ago but now I play everything on my Mac.

Is craigslist my best bet?

Its an ASUS p8p67 rev 3, 2500k, 8GB ram and a GTX 560 2gb in a cooler master case with a corsair power supply. I was going to sell it with no HDD. I have a 24" IPS I might include too. What should I realistically expect to get out of it?
 
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