Kensairabbit37
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True, but it only has 24 PCIE lanes. Gotta go up to the $600 chip for 40. I guess the necessity of this is debatable, but if I were to SLI/CF I'd like to be able to do 16x/16x. It's the principle.
"I Need a New PC!" 2014 Part 2. Read OP, your 2500K will run Witcher 3. MX100s! 970!
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True, but it only has 24 PCIE lanes. Gotta go up to the $600 chip for 40. I guess the necessity of this is debatable, but if I were to SLI/CF I'd like to be able to do 16x/16x. It's the principle.
I checked this morning but I find nothing in the BIOS (Asus MB) hmmm I will double check after some Borderlands 2, it's hella too addictive o,o
Indeed.
(And the PCIe limitation is irrelevant if you don't plan to go SLI
, which no sane person should 
Oh, I didn't realize that it's limited to 220mm GPU lenght. Looked like it would have space for more from the pictures.
Which Haswell CPU? I've got a R9 290 on a 520W Bronze PSU with an OCed 3570k. It limits your overclocking potential a bit, but otherwise it's been trouble free.
Indeed.
(And the PCIe limitation is irrelevant if you don't plan to go SLI), which no sane person should
The thing about Crossfire/SLI is you can use it when it works and turn it off when it doesn't. This guy pretty much demands it at this point:
http://www.bhphotovideo.com/bnh/con...z3Rc2gkqzfluRQaAlA28P8HAQ&Q=&is=REG&A=details
Wow! Very nice thanks !!
Surely you could go smaller with ITX
Heres my HTPC case and its tiny. I use onboard GPU for output.
http://www.scan.co.uk/products/wesena-mini-itx7-2-case-silver-no-psu
Although my Intel DH61AG motherboard is like a laptop board, in the sense it uses laptop DIMMs and has an external power brick.
Nostremitus
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No problem, the OP is also chocked full of great links for when you start to build.
Were you looking for something like this?
PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant
CPU: AMD A8-6600K 3.9GHz Quad-Core Processor ($89.99 @ Amazon)
Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-F2A55M-S1 Micro ATX FM2+ Motherboard ($34.69 @ Newegg)
Memory: *Avexir Core series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-2133 Memory ($75.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Crucial MX100 256GB 2.5" Solid State Drive ($104.99 @ NCIX US)
Storage: *Hitachi Ultrastar 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($44.99 @ Amazon)
Case: Xion XON-720P_BK MicroATX Slim Case w/300W Power Supply ($46.98 @ Newegg)
Total: $397.63
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
*Lowest price parts chosen from parametric criteria
Generated by PCPartPicker 2014-08-25 12:00 EDT-0400
Edit: I just realized you had a 2TB HDD selected. Oops. Also, that case doesn't have a 2.5 drive bay, but the SSD can be safely attached anywhere with Velcro/tape.
Kind of. It's more of a feeling of dread that I have for the inevitable money being drained from my checking account.
Just making sure you saw my last post, but once the module is installed, you can only use the DP. The rest of the inputs are no longer functional.
So I'm finally ready to take the plunge and build my pc:
I already have my psu and case (a 750 watts Cooler Master and a Define R4 I bought months ago), I'm buying a 4790k with a noctua nhd15 to make it cool and silent. GPU? I can hold it for some weeks and see how things turn out with the new Nvidia cards, giving me extra time to wait for my oculus rift which I ordered way too late (June 25th). So my main areas of doubt are motherboard and ram:
Following the spreadsheet, I'm considering Gigabyte Z97X-UD3H-BK (155), an Asus Maximus VII Hero (190) and an Asus Z97-Pro (165). What do you guys think? Reading specs, it seems that the Hero has nice sound, which is very important for me. Would it be better to buy the Gygabyte and a dedicated soundcard?
What do you thing about the Corsair Vengeance Low Profile ram modules?
Thank you all!
I already have my psu and case (a 750 watts Cooler Master and a Define R4 I bought months ago), I'm buying a 4790k with a noctua nhd15 to make it cool and silent. GPU? I can hold it for some weeks and see how things turn out with the new Nvidia cards, giving me extra time to wait for my oculus rift which I ordered way too late (June 25th). So my main areas of doubt are motherboard and ram:
Following the spreadsheet, I'm considering Gigabyte Z97X-UD3H-BK (155), an Asus Maximus VII Hero (190) and an Asus Z97-Pro (165). What do you guys think? Reading specs, it seems that the Hero has nice sound, which is very important for me. Would it be better to buy the Gygabyte and a dedicated soundcard?
What do you thing about the Corsair Vengeance Low Profile ram modules?
Thank you all!
Well, you have to realize that unlike you, I haven't built a PC since 2009. This has been a long time coming. Which is to say, my wallet is readyKind of. It's more of a feeling of dread that I have for the inevitable money being drained from my checking account.
Nostremitus
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I've been trying to figure out why the R9 285 exists... Sapphire explained it. They're releasing a tiny 285 for ITX builds.
http://www.tomshardware.com/news/sapphire-r9-285-itx-compact,27527.html
http://www.tomshardware.com/news/sapphire-r9-285-itx-compact,27527.html
Absolutely.So I'm finally ready to take the plunge and build my pc:
I already have my psu and case (a 750 watts Cooler Master and a Define R4 I bought months ago), I'm buying a 4790k with a noctua nhd15 to make it cool and silent. GPU? I can hold it for some weeks and see how things turn out with the new Nvidia cards, giving me extra time to wait for my oculus rift which I ordered way too late (June 25th). So my main areas of doubt are motherboard and ram:
Following the spreadsheet, I'm considering Gigabyte Z97X-UD3H-BK (155€
What do you thing about the Corsair Vengeance Low Profile ram modules?
Thank you all!
While the onboard sound on the Hero is good, it's still not as good as an inexpensive soundcard like the Xonar DGX.
But what about the new EIZO 1440P/120Hz/G-Sync VA panel that was announced? Going to be an expensive month for you.Well, you have to realize that unlike you, I haven't built a PC since 2009. This has been a long time coming. Which is to say, my wallet is ready
just kidding
Well well
Just picked it up at frys. If you guys are looking for this monitor, check there if you have one near you.
edit: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produ...p=&AID=10446076&PID=6146846&SID=127fs3uts57qj
Available on newegg for auto-notify. I'd expect them to be released tomorrow or this week.
I'd just sell a kidney. Who needs two?
j0hnny_385
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i5-4670K @ default 3.4GHz at the moment (but I will OC later when and if needed).
Oh shit.
It's been a long time coming, but I finally got around to installing my GTX 760 (pre-overclocked), CPU cooler (CoolerMaster Hyper 212 Evo) and extra DDR3 RAM (bringing my total to 12GB). It's all thanks to the fine people of PCGAF who helped me figure this stuff out, so thank you guys a bunch :3
Now, the only thing left to do is overclocking my CPU. I have an i5 2500k clocked at 3.30 GHz, and I've been led to believe it's a rather easy process. Would anyone be so kind as to give me a little instruction, or lead me in the direction of a good tutorial?
I've never done any form of overclocking before, and the hardware installations I listed above were my first time doing that as well. I am still a relative novice, so take that into mind when assisting me if at all possible.
Thanks agian,
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Now, the only thing left to do is overclocking my CPU. I have an i5 2500k clocked at 3.30 GHz, and I've been led to believe it's a rather easy process. Would anyone be so kind as to give me a little instruction, or lead me in the direction of a good tutorial?
I've never done any form of overclocking before, and the hardware installations I listed above were my first time doing that as well. I am still a relative novice, so take that into mind when assisting me if at all possible.
Thanks agian,
-V
This is probably going to be information overload, but if you want to learn the finer details, follow this guide.
It's relatively simple enough if you want to cut corners though (not really a bad thing). To be honest, this is how I've done it on a number of Sandy/Ivy builds:
First off, download HWMonitor, CPUZ, and Prime 95.
1) In BIOS, set CPU multiplier to 45. Set load line calibration to high. Disable C3, C4, and C6 "C States". Increase core voltage to 1.35. Enable XMP for memory. Enable Intel Speed Stepping.
2) Boot. If successful, run Prime 95 "Small FFT" for 15 minutes.
2a) If it fails, reduce CPU multiplier, go back to step 2.
2b) If temps are too high, or if stable, reduce voltage, go back to step 2.
3) Once voltage is reduced to a level that is comfortable for temperatures, and it passes the 15 minutes on Small FFT, let it run on Small FFT for at least 12 hours to ensure stability. I do 24 hours, but it's probably overkill.
4) If it fails during that extended period, increase volts if temps are okay.
Acceptable temperatures for a 2500K is basically below 80 for an average of the four cores. If you have a single core going above 80, don't fret it too much. Mid to low 70s is great. 60s are amazing.
That will give you a great boost without too much of a strain on the CPU, or without too much work to get the highest possible overclock. A lot of people prefer the "offset" voltage, which gives a variable amount of voltage based on the CPU frequency. In theory, it's absolutely better. With enough effort, it's better and definitely stable. However, given the shelf life of most gaming PCs, I don't find that to be necessary. I've had enough issues with stability when trying to use offset that I just don't trust it. When we're talking about low (for Sandy) voltage like 1.35, I'm really not concerned about having that a constant.
To give you an idea of what these chips are capable of, my first 2500K that I bought something like 4 years ago has been at 1.46V @ 5.0GHz 24/7 since the day I booted it. I sold the system to a friend 2 years ago, and it's still at that same voltage and speed without any issues.
Pretty excited man. You know I have those old Asus 120hz monitors. 3 years old? So all of the advancements that have happened since then I've not kept up with.
Really happy that I can go back to competitive games like CS. I swore off 1080p some time ago...unless it is consoles. Now I can finally get back into my PC library.
Nothing wrong with sfx in single gpu applications, hopefully more manufacturers get on board instead of just Silverstone.
Really excited for their 600w one coming out, fanless at less than 50 percent usage.
I'm excited for you. If I weren't working today, I'd have a hard time not driving up to Frys
Lemme know if you want some DirtyBomb keys too. Trust me. That's the game.
eBay Huckster
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All bought.
And now I play the waiting (and rebate-mailing) game until I can unbox everything in two days.
And now I play the waiting (and rebate-mailing) game until I can unbox everything in two days.
starwarsfan541
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So, I plan to upgrade my motherboard, ram and cpu and later on my gpu
My current specs
AMD Athlon II x4 620
6GB DDR2 ram
I also will be upgrading my gpu (Currently a radeon 7770) need one under 150.
Would like the cpu+mobo+ram to be under 300 if possible. I mainly play Paradox Games and Company of Heroes 2 at the moment
My current specs
AMD Athlon II x4 620
6GB DDR2 ram
I also will be upgrading my gpu (Currently a radeon 7770) need one under 150.
Would like the cpu+mobo+ram to be under 300 if possible. I mainly play Paradox Games and Company of Heroes 2 at the moment
Maybe something like this?
PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant
CPU: Intel Core i5-4460 3.2GHz Quad-Core Processor ($182.78 @ OutletPC)
Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-B85M-DS3H Micro ATX LGA1150 Motherboard ($66.99 @ Amazon)
Memory: G.Skill Ares Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1866 Memory ($69.30 @ Newegg)
Total: $319.07
I know it's a little over budget, but the CPU will be a big advantage if you're looking at doing more intensive things in the future.
As for a GPU upgrade I'm less sure what to recommend in that price range. The EVGA 750Ti is $145 but I'm not convinced by the AMD alternatives from vendors which are cheap enough. Either way it's up to you if the benchmarks represent good value gains over your current card.
I'm not too certain that strategy/rts games are going to adopt a multi-core approach to design until they get on the DX12 bandwagon. Unlike console games, they aren't faced with CPUs that have super low IPC but 8 cores. Given that there's no room for ports either way here, I'd imagine things will continue on as they have been instead. Until then, a highly clocked dual core is going to outperform a low clocked quad like the 4460.
If, somewhere down the line, more cores/threads are needed, then the PC is in good shape for a simple 4690K/4790K upgrade while still being able to use the Z97 chipset to further enhance performance.
If, somewhere down the line, more cores/threads are needed, then the PC is in good shape for a simple 4690K/4790K upgrade while still being able to use the Z97 chipset to further enhance performance.
Fair enough! You're the man mkenyon
starwarsfan541
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My question though will the Pentium G3258 be much of an improvement?
Thanks, I was looking at the 750s and the amds in the same price range.
Anyone know which motherboard bios's can oc a g3258? I read there was an update for some lower end boards to oc them
Great, thanks I won some scholarships I wasnt expecting so decided to upgrade my pc so I can run some mods (plus I like making them)
The ability to do that on the lower end boards was something possible with previous stuff as well, but Intel eventually patched it out. Being that the ASRock board in that spreadsheet is as inexpensive as it is, it seems like a worthy investment for not only insurance purposes on overclocking the G3258, but giving yourself a solid platform for a simple CPU-drop-in upgrade down the line should you choose to do so.
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As to whether the G2358 is an improvement, look here.
Short answer: Absolutely yes. It's every bit as good as a 4790K in a vast majority of games.
*edit*
As to whether the G2358 is an improvement, look here.
Short answer: Absolutely yes. It's every bit as good as a 4790K in a vast majority of games.
starwarsfan541
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Great, thanks.
Yes, media stored on my pc. Looking for the cheapest solution, as it will only be temporary. I'm only a few parts away from having my htpc being finished
Wowzoz that is cheap !! If I bought this, would there be anything I wouldn't be able to run ?
CreepingFear
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Smokey lives the life. We can only hope to get his scraps.
Everything will run, just might have to turn settings down in some stuff
PS3? Everyone has a PS3.
got rid of my ps360 last year =/ actually in talks with one of my friends now on trading my gcn for his ps3 =p
I hear you. Dumped my 360 a couple years ago. But my PS3 remains strong as my blu-ray/streaming/netflix box. It's still one of the best blu-ray players out there.
Yep, and I'm kicking myself in the ass for not jumping on it. Pulled it up and saw the pre-order and decided to do some stuff around the house and verify my parts list and then order and when I came back it was on Auto Notify.
Oh well, I've waited this long I can keep waiting. Plus I would think they won't be so hard to find after the first few shipments show up.
Skel1ingt0n
I can't *believe* these lazy developers keep making file sizes so damn large. Btw, how does technology work?
Saw this post and was thrilled to stop at Microcenter on my way back from my GF's place.
Unfortunately, no luck. Probably good; I just splurged on some new boots and need a new pair of headphones still. Damn I'm jealous though. Post impressions!
They did have this guy....
It IS ten bucks off...
Deal of the century! Do not skip out on it or you'll regret it!
Definitely.
Dibs!Smokey lives the life. We can only hope to get his scraps.
Speaking of which, Smokey, are you selling your other monitors? I *might* be interested in the Dell and Samsung.
Not even sure if this is the right part of PC gaf to ask, but I just found a massive amount of Windows XP copies in a building we're cleaning out. They were in the "trash" section of removal so I picked them up.
No keys with them, but the PC builder in me couldn't throw them out. LOL
Any ideas on what the heck I should do with them?
Use them as frisbees? Trash them anyway?
Keep them as a huge backup in case I scratch/mess up 10 copies by accident over time?
No keys with them, but the PC builder in me couldn't throw them out. LOL
Any ideas on what the heck I should do with them?
Use them as frisbees? Trash them anyway?
Keep them as a huge backup in case I scratch/mess up 10 copies by accident over time?
hm, I'm not sure how I'm going to be using this HTPC - but I know I don't want to be limited by hardware constraints ..
How does this look ?
Any recommendations on a CPU cooler or PSU?
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