Nintendo reveals the "New Nintendo 3DS" and "New Nintendo 3DS LL"

The XL version desperately needs a higher res screen. Even if the games render in the same resolution, then upscale. You can see the gaps between pixels on the current model. It's 2014!
 
StormKing said:
I think the main issue is the exclusive software. What if someone gets confused and buys Xenoblade for their Old 3DS?
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And looking from a publisher's side. Do studios want to make a game that can only be sold to N3DS owners when they can market to all 3DS owners? Though considering there aren't that many third parties at work, I guess it's less important when Nintendo first party can afford those risks and make games only for N3DS anyway.
 
ndawgdrake said:
Just because Nintendo had similar business decisions in the past, doesn't make this one any less shitty.

"New" 3DS is a quarter-way successor to the current 3DS. Primarily due to having exclusive games not available to the current 60m+ 3DS owners.

Did I mention the 3DS is only slightly over 3 years old?
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3DS really has only sold ~45 milion units. Just a nitpick.
 
comedy bomb said:
I don't see how Nintendo can support the 3DS, New 3DS, Wii U, QOL, and whatever next handheld and console they have in the works.
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Obviously they won't. If history is any guide, they will drop support of the 3DS and Wii U about six months before releasing the new hardware (and then fuck up the release schedule for the launch window).
 
Superflat said:
And looking from a publisher's side. Do studios want to make a game that can only be sold to N3DS owners when they can market to all 3DS owners? Though considering there aren't that many third parties at work, I guess it's less important when Nintendo first party can afford those risks and make games only for N3DS anyway.
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They will probably add an extra nub to the cart like they did for 3DS lol.
 
Here's something that fucking kills me:

Why is this not ready for launch anywhere but Japan? I know Xenoblade won't be ready but you could at least let us start getting our hands on them.
 
So Nintendo really dropped the ball by ignoring Xenoblade back in the day. So this is what the rumored Monolith Soft handheld game ended up being.
 
Is there anyway to wipe a 3DS to sell it but also then associate my account to a new 3DS when it comes out in a few months?

I still have Smash and Persona Q to play but if I could sell mine in January for some extra cash that would help.
 
King_Moc said:
The XL version desperately needs a higher res screen. Even if the games render in the same resolution, then upscale. You can see the gaps between pixels on the current model. It's 2014!
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I agree. I have an XL and the jaggies are terrible. Much better on the OG, but the screen is so small. Which is why if I get one of these it will not be the XL.
 
Yes! I bought an XL with a CPP to play MH3U, but it really hurt my wrist. Now I can buy this and play MH4G without worrying about that.
 
Edit: Probably 256MB RAM and +4MB to VRAM. Well it makes sense regarding the memory offsets recent firmware messed with

Shauni said:
I always thought that the Gameboy could play Gameboy Color titles? Am I mistaken there? I only a GBC, but I was always under that impression.
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Game Boy could play GBC titles if they were not GBC only. You can think of these as GBC enhanced games (like DSi enhanced). These tended to be black cartridges.

GBC only were clear cartridges (DSi only are white cartirdges...well I think Pokemon white was white as well *hits self in confusion*)

Night_Trekker said:
Oh, so they did drop DS BC. Lame. But expected. Nintendo always does that with the latter hardware revisions.
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Where do you get this crazy idea from? (edit: ah reading SD card...as DS card) The FAQ says you can system transfer from a DSi for starters and the FAQ also gives a list of non-working DS titles. Most of these are ones requiring GBA slot and warns that ones the use GBA slot will have features missing (e.g. Pal Park in Pokemon Diamond). i.e. things that already were non-working or nerfed on DSi and 3DS. If all DS software was non-working they wouldn't link to the list...

There are one or two exceptions like the DS TV tuner and this constellation thing...
http://www.astroarts.com/products/hoshizora-navi/spec-j.shtml
longcart is long.
 
On one hand I'm slightly annoyed; I've sold my old 3DS and was going to order a new XL for SSB/Persona Q/That musical Final Fantasy game. On the other than I've not been as excited for a console launch since the original DS Lite; Nintendo have made me vaguely excited about pre-ordering a console for the first time in years.
 
leroidys said:
Every handheld revision for the past 20 years, like clockwork. Love it.
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I can't think of any revision of Game Boy, DS, Game Boy Advance, Game Gear, Lynx, PSP, or PS Vita, that added extra buttons (gaming buttons, not volume stuff) or control sticks. Better redesigns are to be expected, but changing the entire set of controls on the system is a terrible idea.

SixStringPsycho said:
Oh you will see some games use them. Theyre gonna make us buy this new hardware revision we like it or not.
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They have millions of people out there with the other 3DS models, or the 2DS. The 3rd parties are at least smart enough to know that requiring usage of these buttons is a bad idea. Remember how Wii games that required Motion Plus sold worse? NIntendo had to put this paid accessory in their remotes and still games don't use them.

Mlatador said:
LoL, this is commedy gold. Comments like this are brilliant, haha! It's like a parody of the MANY comments saying "Nope, not gonna buy the 3DS XL because I'm waiting for the inevitable second analog stick revision" when said version was announced.

Sooo many people were like "Hey Nintendo, where the fuck is the second anlog stick?!?!".
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I think the system should have launched with this stuff, don't get me wrong. However, when your company makes a product like this you have to go for compatibility and stick with the fundamentals you started with. There is already enough brand confusion as it is, with 3DS, 3DS XL, 2DS, and now new 3DS. One of which has a completely different control set than the others. How is the average buyer supposed to know that certain 3DS games can't be played on their system?
 
KarmaCow said:
Is there anyway to wipe a 3DS to sell it but also then associate my account to a new 3DS when it comes out in a few months?

I still have Smash and Persona Q to play but if I could sell mine in January for some extra cash that would help.
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Nope. Gotta keep it until it comes out. Or find another 3DS that someone isnt using to transfer to.

Also should have taken a hint when Nintendo barely announced any 3DS games for next year.
 
KarmaCow said:
Is there anyway to wipe a 3DS to sell it but also then associate my account to a new 3DS when it comes out in a few months?

I still have Smash and Persona Q to play but if I could sell mine in January for some extra cash that would help.
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inner-G said:
No
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Yes, you can... but it involves a long-ass process with Nintendo Customer Service.

I would say it's not worth the hassle, just wait until the new 3DS is released and do a system transfer yourself. It will be easier, quicker and safer.
 
I'm kinda glad it's not coming stateside yet since I just sent in my 3DS XL for repairs recently. :p I'll definitely pick it up when it is released though.
 
This is the biggest bullshit I have ever seen. Nintendo just pulled a 32X, who the fuck splits the userbase. I refuse to buy a new 3DS, I HAVE ONE ALREADY.

Just make a new damn handheld, not this inbetween shit.

I cannot believe people comparing this to the GBC. That came out 8 YEARS after the Game Boy. This is not comparable at all. This is the 32X all over again.
 
SegaShack said:
I can't think of any revision of Game Boy, DS, Game Boy Advance, Game Gear, Lynx, PSP, or PS Vita, that added extra buttons (gaming buttons, not volume stuff) or control sticks. Better redesigns are to be expected, but changing the entire set of controls on the system is a terrible idea.


They have millions of people out there with the other 3DS models, or the 2DS. The 3rd parties are at least smart enough to know that requiring usage of these buttons is a bad idea. Remember how Wii games that required Motion Plus sold worse? NIntendo had to put this paid accessory in their remotes and still games don't use them.



I think the system should have launched with this stuff, don't get me wrong. However, when your company makes a product like this you have to go for compatibility and stick with the fundamentals you started with. There is already enough brand confusion as it is, with 3DS, 3DS XL, 2DS, and now new 3DS. One of which has a completely different control set than the others. How is the average buyer supposed to know that certain 3DS games can't be played on their system?
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You can get the exact same new buttons with a circle pad pro.
 
King_Moc said:
The XL version desperately needs a higher res screen. Even if the games render in the same resolution, then upscale. You can see the gaps between pixels on the current model. It's 2014!
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Believe me, you don't want upscaling. Best thing to do is use the same resolution screen. It would be like making bigger screen TV's 3K instead of 1080, despite things always being at 1080. Native resolution is always best.
 
Strikes me as a bit of desperate repositioning on Nintendo's part, which I guess should come as a surprise to no one.

I can't say the 3DS has ever really appealed to me (this is coming from an owner of a GB, GBC, GBA and DS), but I'm curious to see what kind of differences in experience these changes can offer, and how Nintendo tries to lean on it going forward.
 
I've noticed that they called the little nub a "c-stick" rather than a circle pad. Does that essentially mean that it will have a limited range of movement, such as 4 or 8 way movement, rather than a full 360 degree range of motion?
 
I don't get the name criticism. OK maybe could go for something more minimal like NewDS but really it's not that bad and it's not like Wii U which is a completely new hardware.
 
SegaShack said:
Believe me, you don't want upscaling. Best thing to do is use the same resolution screen. It would be like making bigger screen TV's 3K instead of 1080, despite things always being at 1080. Native resolution is always best.
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Agreed, if anything it would make existing games look worse.
 
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