Nintendo reveals the "New Nintendo 3DS" and "New Nintendo 3DS LL"

There was not ONE dsi exclusive worth a damn.
Respectfully, I couldn't disagree more with you.

It was worth every cent for the definitive Pyoro alone to me!

If that isn't enough for most people, which I admit it isn't, it had great exclusives like Spotto, a Kappa's Tale, the Artstyle series, and of course, Shantae 2!
 
Majora's Mask will not be New 3DS exclusive. Zelda is one of the top sellers on the system (OoT3D is sixth I believe) and there's no technical reasons MM couldn't run on a normal 3DS because we already know OoT does.
Majora's Mask will not require the expansion pack. Zelda is one of the top sellers on the system (OoT is fourth I Believe) and there's no technical reasons MM couldn't run on a normal N64 because we already know OoT does.

(Not saying I disagree with you. I just thought it was funny. :p)
 
Nintendo will repeat history.

Majora's Mask needed an expansion pack. Now MM3D will need the revised system.

The 3DS has more than enough power to make up the difference. 3DS ran OoT with good graphical improvements.

Nintendo aren't going to be forcing big titles onto the 'New' ecosystem. Xenoblade is a strange, unique case (Smash, upcoming sequel, only possible on improved hardware) and sales wise it isn't really even a big title.

OoT was a remaster, not a port. It'll be fine on any 3ds.

Yep. The gap between OoT and MM is not that significant to make the regular 3DS incapable of playing it.
 
So don't release it and give us a proper successor say in a year or so be it Fall 2015 or early 2016 like Feb ala when the original hit.

Do you have any idea how much the DSi added to the Nintendo DS family sales? 28.43 million for the DSi and 12.92 million for the DSi LL/XL. Like the DSi, this is just a stop-gap for the 3DS until they release their actual next generation handheld. No way Nintendo is going to not attempt that strategy again.

Seeing all those responses makes me want to see Nintendo release new handheld hardware every year, with a tick-tock mechanic. People already have that in smartphones, time to put it into the handheld market too. Few people will complain, apparently.

And seeing your response makes me realize that you have no fucking idea why Nintendo released this. They've always done these kinds of revisions to their handhelds. GBC. DSi. No one complained then. Games that they bought for their OG devices played perfectly fine with the new revision.

But that's dividing your customer base, especially big games like Xenoblade which has a lot of buzz. If more games get created under the new revision and are not backwards compatible with older 3DS, then how is that not a slap in the face.

If they labeled it a new handheld that's a different story, because it would explain why newer games built around the hardware wouldn't work on older 3DS.

No what they are doing like they did with the 2DS is creating another re-vision of essentially the same device minus a cpu bump, battery life, better 3D, and upgraded thumbstick, that will have specific games that only iy can play.

But yet they are still calling it a 3DS, how does that not piss people off who are buying the still available 3DS and 3DS XL?

Because people can still play their old 3DS games, so nothing was really taken from them that they don't already have? The new 3DS is an updated, more powerful version of their device that happens to take advantage of that new power by releasing software exclusive to it. If you have a GeForce 256 card, do you bitch that it does not play Crysis, and that you need at least a GeForce 6800 for it? No. You don't. You shut up and go back to playing Quake III instead.

Theyre not going to phase out on it, the regular 3ds is still selling like hot cakes. Whats a bad move here is marketing this as a new 3ds which currently plays the games that are released. But dince this new 3ds has a better cpu. One extra circle pad and 2 extra shoulder buttons. We will ser games that cannot be played on our older 3ds. Like the new xenoblade. Its a big fuck you to current owners. And xenoblade wont be the last of it. They wont release this console just to have it collecting dust in retailers and not sell.
Theyre going to market this as a must to play new games. Since new games will take advantage of the new cpu and buttons. Like for example, with the n64 expansion pack. Sure some games could be played without it, but it ran like shit.

Jesus Christ, will you stop it with the "big fuck you" bull? This is a device that is more powerful than its predecessor; if it is able to play a game that can't be played on an OG 3DS, why wouldn't someone take advantage of it? Did you make a big fuss when the GBC got Pokemon Crystal as an exclusive?

When this gets released, will your existing 3DS cease to play all current 3DS games anymore? No. Like all new techs, it will have features that an older version will not. This is not done to spite you or anyone; it is just natural for them to take advantage of more powerful hardware. This isn't some big conspiracy to rob you of Xenoblade Chronicles, or any future exclusive New 3DS titles. It is the nature of the beast. If you're raging that your less powerful device is not getting the same stuff that the newer tech has, then you might as well give up technology, bud. Because it fucking marches on.

Just because Nintendo had similar business decisions in the past, doesn't make this one any less shitty.

"New" 3DS is a quarter-way successor to the current 3DS. Primarily due to having exclusive games not available to the current 60m+ 3DS owners.

Did I mention the 3DS is only slightly over 3 years old?

Did you know that when the DSi was released, the DS Lite was just a little under 3 years old? Did you rage that time too?
 
The number of people who are apparently "ok" with nintendo dropping the 3DS completely (The people saying that they should have gone with a complete successor) but are taking massive issue that they plan to continue to offer og 3DS software alongside some stuff that is NEW 3DS exclusive confuses me a bit.

This is dumb.
Nintendo should have held back and pumped their resources into a 3DS successor. Tacking on significant input features this late into the game is a bad idea imo.

Good news then! You can get the "significant input" features, by which I assume you mean buttons, on your OG 3DS or 3DS XL!


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Calling it now: Majora's Mask 3D is a New 3DS exclusive.

You know it will happen. No use fighting it.

It would explain why it's not been heard of for so long. Or indeed, the almost total lack of software announced beyond 2014. Maybe MM is new 3DS enhanced but not exclusive.

I think the retail software push is bound to be heavier than the DSi, which had hundreds of DSiware titles to itself.
 
I think people are also forgetting that one of the main reasons Nintendo is doing this is amiibo. It is a HUGE part of Nintendo going forward.
 
It all depends on the price point for me. If they price it like a next gen system, I'll just wait for the next gen system in a year or two.

It's around $160 for the New 3DS and around $190 for the New 3DS LL.

It's like $15 and $10 more expensive than the old models respectively.
 
Majora's Mask will likely be an enhanced title, with these features:

STANDARD 3DS:

- 30fps
- Standard lighting effects.
- Standard textures.

NEW 3DS:

- 60fps
- Improved lighting
- Improved textures
- Amiibo features
- New dungeon?

It'll be the Link's Awakening DX of the launch in the UK/EU/USA. Playable on the old console but with significant benefits to new adopters. That's my guess. Anyone agree?
 
It would explain why it's not been heard of for so long. Or indeed, the almost total lack of software announced beyond 2014. Maybe MM is new 3DS enhanced but not exclusive.

I swear if they don't use the C-Nub for camera controls, I will scream.

MM uses the ram expansion pack, and the Zelda collection on GameCube has trouble with it

The issue wasn't memory itself. IIRC it was revealed the emulator in the CE didn't properly emulate the expansion pack, hence why Majora was so crash prone. The Virtual Console release works just as good (relative term) as it did on the N64.

The 3DS version wouldn't be emulated either, but a remake like OOT3D was, so it's a non-issue either way :)
 
I think people are also forgetting that one of the main reasons Nintendo is doing this is amiibo. It is a HUGE part of Nintendo going forward.

True, but they'll likely have an adapter for the 3DS. I doubt they'd abandon that entire market unless they plan on forcing those that want amiibo into the New 3DS.
 
I'll be skipping it most likely. I'm happy with the regular 3DS as is, and there's nothing too enticing in this upgrade to supplement the added hardware power, like a resolution bump.
 
I'll have to use it before I decide but I actually really like the placement of the nubbin. I mean it's not like the 3DS had much symmetry in the first place.
 
All this pessimism at the second analog nub/stick is reminding me of when the 2DS was announced. Back then, a lot of people here in GAF made fun of it. Then, when it got released, people realized how comfortable and awesome it felt.

Also, a bit off-topic, what the fuck is wrong with Iwata's left eye???
 
You're kidding me.

I was this close to get an XL because of Smash, and now I have to wait? I can't play Smash on my og 3DS.


I mean you could.

All this pessimism at the second analog nub/stick is reminding me of when the 2DS was released. Back then, people made fun of it. Then, when it got released, people realized how comfortable and awesome it felt.

Also, a bit off-topic, what the fuck is wrong with Iwata's left eye???
I think he had surgery on it related to his sickness.
 
]It would explain why it's not been heard of for so long[/b]. Or indeed, the almost total lack of software announced beyond 2014. Maybe MM is new 3DS enhanced but not exclusive.

A Zelda handheld game (ALBW) came out less than a year ago. I've said that something like five times today already. Nintendo have no need to rush another one and are content to carry on with their biyearly releases.

Also they generally don't discuss their 3DS titles more than six months in advance these days. Quick turn around from announcement to release.
 
I'm just excited to get one and think this is a smart business move.

I honestly don't see why releasing a new platform separate from the 3DS would be any more acceptable or be less about forcing current 3DS owners to buy new hardware.

Like I said, 3DS sales have slowed down. By releasing a more powerful version with more functions and buttons, they will attract some people who have yet to purchase a 3DS. They will also get some people to upgrade.

I really cannot see how they lose in this situation. Are people who like the 3DS platform going to be so angered by a new $160~$180 option that has very few exclusive games that they will just forsake Nintendo forever?

I think that is highly unlikely.

Revisions aren't going to stop the decline, just a small bandaid. IMO of course. I want the SFC buttons for my 3ds xl. Hopefully there will be a way to get them installed on mine lol.
 
Why didn't theu just wait two years and make a brand new handheld. 3ds imo is the worst nintendo handheld as is. (very uncomfortable and very underwhelming in various areas). If deciding between this and wii u i'd go for the wii u especially since they have very similar titles.
 
Any news on the "region-free-ness" of the New 3DS LL? I may import one if it's finally region free. 2015 is just too far away :(

You have more chance of winning the lottery whilst in the process of having sex with Scarlett Johannson whilst in the middle watching an exclusive 1 to 1 concert from Elvis Presley at your home who never really died but just hid for a while until he could surprise you on this special occasion.
 
You have more chance of winning the lottery whilst in the process of having sex with Scarlett Johannson whilst watching an exclusive 1 to 1 concert from Elvis Presley who never really died but just hid for a while until he could surprise you on this special occasion.

Oh. I'll pass, thank you. I rather have the New 3DS :P
 
They tacked them on years ago with the CPP though.

Yeah you're right, but this is getting ridiculous.


It's unbelievable that Nintendo have also decided to brand this product under the 3DS name when it will have exclusive games that won't work on other 3DS systems.
It's almost feels like they deliberately want to confuse consumers.
 
Third party would be more interested in maximizing sales potential. Unless Nintendo funds the development, third party New 3DS exclusives will be few and far between.
I wonder about some of these smaller Japanese developers.

Although if they can make New 3DS enhanced games I can see a lot of games favoring that route, almost like cross gen gaming currently.
 
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