COMICS! |OT| September 2014. Means well, but is easily distracted and can get lost.

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Kipp said:
Silver Surfer's still going well? I haven't heard talk about it since issue #2.
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I'm still reading it, although the most recent issue reminded me of Batman '66 rather than a Doctor Who adventure.
 
Mumei said:
Is Superman: For Tomorrow good?
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I thought it was just about mediocre. Nothing great but nothing really bad either. Worth a read if your library has it or if you find an inexpensive TPB.

One negative is that it felt like you were dropped right in the the middle of a longer run/story.
 
I'm in the Silver Surfer fan club as well. I guess Slott is using his creative juices on that cuz AsM is lookin kinda Birdie tier right now
 
My list for today (provided my shop has them in)

Names #1
Southern Bastards #4
Avengers World #12
Black Widow #10
Iron Fist #6
Hawkeye vs. Deadpool #0 (hoping it's better than Deadpool vs. X-Force)
Legendary Star-Lord #3
Moon Knight #7 (make or break for this series continuing to be on my lists in the future)
Original Sin #8 (I'm glad this is coming to an end)
Punisher #10
Rocket Raccoon #3
Spider-Man 2099 #3
Silent Hill Downpour #1 (girlfriend loves SH, but I'm betting it's terrible)
God Hates Astronauts #1 (I'm skeptical)
 
Wool said:
I'm ~100 pages into the Sin City Omnibus. So good. The only other Frank Miller I've read was Ronin, which was good but not on this level.
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For some reason the first story didn't do a lot for me (I enjoyed it, but mostly because of the art), but I really enjoyed the second one.
And if you haven't read any other Miller books, you really ought to check out The Life and Times of Martha Washington. It's incredible.
And also the other classics like Dark Knight Returns, his Daredevil stuff, and Holy Terror.
Kidding on that last one. Please don't read Holy Terror.

I love good Frank Miller comics so much.

Serpentine said:
It's consistently good. It's always one of the last books i read though.
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ViewtifulJC said:
I'm in the Silver Surfer fan club as well. I guess Slott is using his creative juices on that cuz AsM is lookin kinda Birdie tier right now
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Caspel said:
I'm still reading it, although the most recent issue reminded me of Batman '66 rather than a Doctor Who adventure.
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Sweet. Thanks for the replies. I'll very likely pick up the collections because I love the lightheartedness of it. And also Allred, obviously. Hopefully they release an OHC of it.

Speaking of Allred, I think I'm going to reread the X-Statix Presents Dead Girl mini today. Gonna get that Doctor Strange goodness.
 
Kipp said:
No. Way.

Let me start by saying that I'm definitely in no big rush to get my IST order since I'm in the middle of Doom Patrol and have other stuff to read after it anyways, but just because I was curious, I checked the USPS tracking thing to see how long until I got it...
Also, keep in mind, I live in Southern California.

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I had to laugh.

Best part is that it made it within an hour of my house. Bell Gardens is usually where it ends up the day before my packages arrive.
I have a theory: My Criminal deluxe editions really wanted to take a nice vacation for the three-day weekend in Florida (because Southern California isn't nice enough, I guess).
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that's a hell of a mis-sort haha
 
Kipp said:
No. Way.

Let me start by saying that I'm definitely in no big rush to get my IST order since I'm in the middle of Doom Patrol and have other stuff to read after it anyways, but just because I was curious, I checked the USPS tracking thing to see how long until I got it...
Also, keep in mind, I live in Southern California.

I had to laugh.

Best part is that it made it within an hour of my house. Bell Gardens is usually where it ends up the day before my packages arrive.
I have a theory: My Criminal deluxe editions really wanted to take a nice vacation for the three-day weekend in Florida (because Southern California isn't nice enough, I guess).
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I swear sometimes it feels like shipping is purposefully fucked because it'd get to you too fast if they didn't delay it. ;)
 
Lashley said:
Still going strong isn't it? It reminds me of Doctor Who in many ways.
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Yeah--it's the most charming space adventure book out there. Beyond charming, it's just well written, fun, and damn well drawn.
 
dan2026 said:
Probably would of hated it.

But after CoIE everything was great for a long damn time.

After the New 52 things have been lackluster at best.
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There were lackluster things after CoIE as well. It's not like it happened and every comic they shipped was fucking magically gold that read like the finest wine. We're 3 years in on this reboot and some stuff has been really fucking good, and some stuff has been terrible. Not everything is going to be a rainbow shooting out of a unicorn's ass.

Plus give it 25 years and people are going to be saying the same shit, "After N52 everything was great for a long damn time. After the Crisis in the 5th Dimension things have been lackluster at best."
 
No matter what the continuity is, good team made good book just as simple as that. Keep putting good team, made good book, cut the editor meddling.. N52 are fine.

The problem is will DC do that?
 
GAMEPROFF said:
I still dont consider New 52 Batman as not the "real"Batman :D


Whats his origin now?
I thought that Millers Batman: Year One was still his original origin, but now its Year Zero? Or happened Year Zero after Year One (What would only make sense from what Ive seen, but zero comes before one...)
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I think both? The Roman is a big part of Eternal so they're hinting that the year one and Long Halloween stuff still went down since he still has it out for Selina and has the scar etc. Although, like with Deacon Blackfyre they could just smooth it over a whole bunch.

Isak_Borg said:
Someone needs to create a "Choose your own continuity" webpage where you can pick and choose bits and pieces of Batman lore to create your own continuity.
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There's this thing that Mark Waid and Grant Morrison came up with in the 90s called Hypertime that everyone but me and BenjaminBirdie forgot about. I try to use that. It all still happened really, the comics are still there in my cupboard after all.

GrandHarrier said:
Guys none of the stuff you are saying you loved about the old universe was even the original universe. It was the result of a retcon that mashed and jumbled a bunch of shit together. It took time for it to sort itself out into what it was just before the reboot. And having read both the old stuff and the new stuff there was just as much dumb shit in the old universe as there is in the new one.

I really hope I never become so jaded.
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Not at all man, Batman continuity had actually been very tightly and skillfully run for about the last 30 years, and if you gloss over the pre-crisis Jason Todd stuff (of which there was quite a substantial run, surprisingly) his history was fairly consistent.

By my reckoning, Batman had been around for about 15 years just up to the start of the new 52, and it felt like it. And that's not a bad thing at all, it gave the character gravitas and the slowly aging cast made a kind of sense. Dick had been Robin since he was 13, now he was about 25. Tim had aged from about 14 to 19 from his origin to the present day (~20 years real time). The aging followed naturally from the stories and so you end up with characters who have a rich history that rewards digging for old stories. Batman was probably the most consistent comics universe I can think of next to X-Men, really.

Writing that last bit made me realise why I'm enjoying a lot of the Marvel stuff lately actually. Writers like Hickman, Aaron, Remender and Fraction are constantly mining the past for their stories and it makes everything feel much larger than life and intriguing. I didn't grow up with Marvel at all, my experience with them is limited to about the last 5 years with X-Men a bit further back. But reading their stuff now reminds me of how DC felt when I was a kid. Who the fuck is the High Evolutionary or Immortus or Kang (wait, is Kang actually Immortus from the future wtfffff). What's this Age of Apocalypse stuff? What the hell is a celestial? These are all things I've loved learning about through context and the new stories, even though I know there's a thousand others informing it that I've not read.

It's not that I'm cynical at all, it's DC who are cynical. It feels like they dumbed down and rebooted to attract the quick 'new reader' dollar. The weird thing is, what's to encourage the new readers to go and read the extensive back catalogue? Justice Society never happened, Morrison's JLA never happened, massive chunks of Superman don't work any more including Johns' own great Brainiac story and the new Krypton stuff that was actually really cool.

Anyway, I know full well that I'm just going around in circles, I'm mostly just reminiscing about awesome old comics at this point. Anyone ever read Final Night? That was rad.
 
Jedeye Sniv said:
It's not that I'm cynical at all, it's DC who are cynical. It feels like they dumbed down and rebooted to attract the quick 'new reader' dollar. The weird thing is, what's to encourage the new readers to go and read the extensive back catalogue? Justice Society never happened, Morrison's JLA never happened, massive chunks of Superman don't work any more including Johns' own great Brainiac story and the new Krypton stuff that was actually really cool.
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But... it did all happen? In Post CoIE Pre New 52 DC it happened. I have trades from that time myself that I've since sought out after the fact just to add to my collection of Legion related material. I don't understand this concept that it's not worth reading because it's not being directly referenced in the book I am reading this month. I mean, what would change in Court of Owls, if Batman's full history were it's pre New 52 version? Would the story somehow be different??? Or would it have been the same story irregardless of whatever particular back catalogue is currently considered relevant?

Edit: I should clarify that really I'm just pro-comics are awesome and I'm not going to allow myself to not enjoy comics just because of the current state of any particular continuity. As a Legion fan I've read and loved multiple different versions of the Legion and I enjoy them all because comics are awesome.

Edit Edit: Hah. The last Has DC Done Something Stupid is the Batgirl creative team change. A change that is being highly heralded? Poor Outhousers. They must be getting really sad.
 
I really need to stop trying to read other comics until I finish Doom Patrol. Every time I try to read something else, I can't stop thinking "I'd be enjoying Doom Patrol more..."
 
Kipp said:
I really need to stop trying to read other comics until I finish Doom Patrol. Every time I try to read something else, I can't stop thinking "I'd be enjoying Doom Patrol more..."
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I feel you... I keep looking at Animal Man and telling it "soon"

Soon
 
ReAxion said:
that's a hell of a mis-sort haha
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In the four or five years I've been using IST, it's happened to me three or so times where the USPS has mis-routed my package to the opposite end of the country before I got it. Oddly, all three instances were within about a six month time-frame.
 
Just finished the first Daredevil by Mark Waid OHC and ordered the second one even before I finished the book.

Great story with a lot of fun. Also really liked the art and how they showed Matts Powers. Very Excited how it all goes on.

Also read a couple of Issues of Bendis and Brubakers Runs. Liked espescially Brubakers, I think I will pick up a Ultimate Collection if his work before I buy Bendis Runs.
 
Anyone checked out Hawkeye vs. Deadpool? I'm going to pick up RR #3 on Friday and was thinking about getting it.
 
Read God Hates Astronauts. I looked into the preview because Tim hyped it up and the art looked fun. The preview was weird fun that intrigued me enough to get the first issue. I liked it enough to continue with the next one. So far, it was a silly comic. With this first issue, you really get no clear intentions where the writer wants to take you. Is it being weird for the sake of being weird, does the writer have a story to tell? I hope there is a nice balance of the two because the the art is fantastic and with what is on the pages, no movie could duplicate what is on these panels so it's truly using the power of comics to do its thing.
 
KoruptData said:
Read God Hates Astronauts. I looked into the preview because Tim hyped it up and the art looked fun. The preview was weird fun that intrigued me enough to get the first issue. I liked it enough to continue with the next one. So far, it was a silly comic. With this first issue, you really get no clear intentions where the writer wants to take you. Is it being weird for the sake of being weird, does the writer have a story to tell? I hope there is a nice balance of the two because the the art is fantastic and with what is on the pages, no movie could duplicate what is on these panels so it's truly using the power of comics to do its thing.
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It is weird for the sake of being weird and there's a story. An amazing story of Crabulons, the Royal Tiger Eating a Cheeseburger family, astronaut farmers, and the Power People Five (who enforce the laws of NASA forbidding unauthorized space travel). It's totally irreverent and awesome for it.
 
Grayson: Futures End

Can someone explain
the significance of the flashbacks? What does the acid have to do with the start of the manga? Is Dick alive and what happens to Russia now that the beast is dead? Is he still working undercover for Batman? Is the Beast the leader of Spyral? If that's the case then wouldn't Dick's death mean his return as Nightwing? His original mission was to stop what eventually happened in this book. I'm talking about the leader killing everyone that disagreed with him.
 
Oh man. Just read Doom Patrol #52. So amazing.
Cliff Steele is such a great character.
RIP Mr. Nobody. :'(
Also, The Toy showing up at the end was hilarious.

Oh, and Philip Bond's inks made Richard Case look like a whole new artist! That was a stellar combination.
 
I watched the Grant Morrison documentary "Talking With Gods" thanks to this thread, and I loved it. There wasn't too much that hadn't been covered in the Fatman on Batman podcasts, but I'm always happy to hear about his perception of the world. Hugely inspirational stuff!
 
On the Southern Bastards reveal about who Tubbs is talking to on the phone,
the most obvious one would have been his wife, the most interesting/surprising one would have been his gay lover/partner, instead they split the difference and went with a (black) daughter. Ok Jason Aaron, that'll work.
 
Riptwo said:
I watched the Grant Morrison documentary "Talking With Gods" thanks to this thread, and I loved it. There wasn't too much that hadn't been covered in the Fatman on Batman podcasts, but I'm always happy to hear about his perception of the world. Hugely inspirational stuff!
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Are there any other documentarys about Comic Artists you guys recommend?
You can also list good ones about charachters, companies and franchises :D
 
tim1138 said:
It is weird for the sake of being weird and there's a story. An amazing story of Crabulons, the Royal Tiger Eating a Cheeseburger family, astronaut farmers, and the Power People Five (who enforce the laws of NASA forbidding unauthorized space travel). It's totally irreverent and awesome for it.
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I'm glad y'all got a kick out of it because Ryan Browne seems like an awesome guy, but I read the trade and just did NOT get it. I mean, I got 90% of the references, but I didn't think they were creatively utilized in any way, shape or form.

Speaking of which.... KIPP! Your package is going out at the end of the week, with a special little sumthin' sumthin' tucked in there as well! :D
 
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