Moff
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eh, that really sounds more like he isnt in it.
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*UNMARKED SPOILERS ALL BOOKS* Game of Thrones |OT| - Season 5 Offseason Thread
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eh, that really sounds more like he isnt in it.
The Smoking Bun
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Skimming through the first book it's hilarious how young some of these characters are supposed to be.
I cannot imagine Kit Harrington's Jon Snow as a 15 year old, same for Richard Madden and Robb Stark.
ASOIAF? More like Saved by the Bell
Oh and Peter Dinklage should totally have done Tyrion's somersault from the top of a wall
I cannot imagine Kit Harrington's Jon Snow as a 15 year old, same for Richard Madden and Robb Stark.
ASOIAF? More like Saved by the Bell
Oh and Peter Dinklage should totally have done Tyrion's somersault from the top of a wall
Are you fucking me right now?
WhereAreMahDragonz
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Uh
Cornballer
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It was discussed on the previous page, as well. It sounds like no Hodor next season, but Bran is probably in(?)
biosnake20
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Uh, there's no new info in this article so we still don't know who "we" is.
Isaac Hempstead-Wright's quote is ambiguous, it can go either way, but the phrasing kinda sounds like a deflection to the question. Maybe he just has few scenes that were/will be quickly filmed intertwined between flashbacks or something, that is if he appears in season 5 at all.
Eh, that's exactly what I was saying.
RatskyWatsky
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Oh man, I hope it's true. Very smart move by D&D if true. plzplzplz be true
Well we know Winds material is in for Arya, so it's not like they're scared of that. They probably just can't let Bran get that far ahead of all the characters who still have plot to get through. I could also see them doing some filler with Sansa and Brienne in the Vale to keep Sansa from getting to far ahead. Then they'd have everyone pretty much at the end of Feast/Dance at the end of the season, plus or minus a handful of chapters.
KingHenrik30
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what a joke at this point
WhereAreMahDragonz
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Maybe filler for Sansa, but I can't see it for Brienne.
Casting tape spoiler:
If Jaime actually is going to Dorne, that gives them an opportunity to hang Brienne by season's end, leave her fate ambiguous, and then surprise everyone when they meet up in season six in the Riverlands. But all this means that she has to get through her Feast arc this season.
As for Bran, though, I can see him doing a few minor scenes here and there just to explain tree internet to the viewers, and then have him get into the meat and potatoes of it with the flashbacks and stuff in season six.
But leaving him out completely for an entire year? Lol.
Exterminieren
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Not moving past book material would be a stupid, cowardly move. Hope it isn't true- people aren't going to accept major characters dropping out of the narrative for no goddamned reason.
I'd love to hear a reason why this is a smart move purely in terms of the TV series.
Issue is there isn't really a Brienne arc. It's just adventures in the Riverlands that ends in her capture and hanging. They've already planted the seeds for her eventual capture since they had her yelling in a known Brotherhood meeting spot about how she's looking for Sansa. They need to burn time between now and a hanging at season's end. Tying her up in the Vale for a bit with Sansa would fit their goal of trying to condense characters together. Then she escapes the Vale into the Riverlands towards the end, in time for the hanging and set up for season 6 rendezvous with Jaime.
Nothing's really a spoiler in there, but I was responding to spoilers so I spoilered it just in case.
No confirmation, but zero evidence of them being anywhere. It's almost definitely cut or delayed to season 6, unless they are doing some seriously stealthy filming.
Yeah hard to see them keeping something as big as the Kingsmoot under wraps bearing in mind the amount of extras that'd be required. Hope it is just delayed though and not just cut completely.
Eh, that's all sort of hearsay at this point. Until there's some casting or someone spots them filming the scene, I'm assuming it's cut.
Also, Entertainment Weekly confirmed no Bran: http://insidetv.ew.com/2014/09/03/bran-stark-game-of-thrones-season-5/
Basileus777
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Is that a confirmation or just a reiteration of the original source?
EW has been the semi-official mouthpiece for the show in the past. If they're saying it it's probably true. Pretty much all of the major news about season 4 casting came through them (they were the ones who announced Pedro Pascal as Oberyn, for example), and they generally have access to the set for interviews during filming. It's probably about as close to confirmation as you're going to get.
Yeah, Hibberd's the man.
At the same time, the "HBO had no comment" plus the fact that he sourced Kristian's interview rather than outright breaking the news officially (as is his usual practice) is in stark contrast to his usual stuff. I'm still skeptical about the whole Bran thing.
RatskyWatsky
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Moving past the books would be an exercise in hubris that would surely end in disaster. D&D aren't good at making stuff up on their own and without having a complete book to base storylines off of, things would go off rails quickly.
Osha was a pretty major-ish character and she (and Rickon) hasn't appeared since late season 3.
Ultimately I don't really give a shit about the show and only care that it doesn't spoil future books, but:
Season 5 is going to be packed as is - there are a slew of new characters being introduced on top of the already outrageously large cast. Bran (not to mention Meera and Hodor) really has nothing to do (do people really just want him to be a vehicle for flashbacks? I mean...) anyway so why not just end his storyline on a weird cliffhanger (he goes underground with magic elf-things and is laid at the feet of an old dude lounging in a thicket) and then leave the audience hanging until the very end of the next season/next next season?
Let's not pretend Bran is a super major character in the vein of Tyrion/Arya/Dany/Jon/etc. where people would be furious if he were absent - he was in like 15 minutes of last season and he hasn't had anything interesting to do in ages. Not that many people would care if he didn't make an appearance next season and it only makes more room for the new characters.
Bleh, what's the point of the Kingsmoot if none of the other Greyjoy's have been cast?
Daario is coming for the Seastone chair
Isnt this normal in the books though?
I guess, but I don't think he would go risking his reputation and his relationship with HBO to publish something he wasn't 99% sure on.
Basileus777
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No, it'd be an exercise in the inevitable. They have no choice but to move past the books.
WhereAreMahDragonz
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Well they have a choice, it's just not a very good decision to do so.
Steelyuhas
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Isn't much of one, but if they are filming any Ironborn stuff later in the year (remember they film nearly through the end of the year), they might not have cast those new characters yet (or announced/been leaked yet).
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Bran stuff: First off, I've yet to see a source besides Kristian's comment, so I wouldn't start flipping tables yet. Assuming that is the case though, I think that's okay. Once Bran gets to the cave, it's a perfectly natural narrative excuse as far as the show is concerned for him to not be in the show for a while. Given that, I can understand the decision to simply bring Bran into the show when narrative requires instead of a season arc that's probably 10-15 minutes and has no real significant climax/conclusion.
Exterminieren
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Books are not TV shows.
Besides, people were bitching for years when GRRM was forced to do it in the books.
Their choices are move past the books or stop making the show. Sounds like a good decision to me.
WhereAreMahDragonz
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Yeah, no, guys. I'm not buying this whole "People would get mad if Bran didn't show up" thing. They wouldn't.
Hell, having him meet Bloodraven and the Children and then disappear for one entire season is probably the most interesting thing they can do with the character right now. Keep people waiting and actually create interest in his storyline.
Hell, having him meet Bloodraven and the Children and then disappear for one entire season is probably the most interesting thing they can do with the character right now. Keep people waiting and actually create interest in his storyline.
Exterminieren
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It is not hubris to continue a story you have begun telling.
Keeping the plot in a holding pattern to wait for GRRM would be far, far more disastrous than just getting on with it.
PREORDER CANCELLED!!
They probably know what GRRM is doing/has done at this point so it's either important enough that they want to wait for all the other storylines to catch up or it's so bad they don't want to put it on TV at all.
RatskyWatsky
Hunky Nostradamus
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No they don't, at least not this year. There is so much stuff left in the books that they've yet to get to - there's at least two more seasons' worth of material (for most of the characters) before they have to go past the books.
*crosses fingers for Damphair*
It isn't their story to tell though - it's their story to re-tell and that can't happen unless GRRM finishes the books.
Basileus777
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I thought we wanted them to make good television, not regurgitate GRRM's bloat.
It's their TV show, it's their story to tell. And it will be told long before GRRM finishes the books.
bengraven
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GRRM gets his 5 year gap!
Incandenza
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You'd think if they were gonna skip Bran this season, they would have put a bit more money/effort into the Bloodraven reveal. Like have a branch coming out of his eye or something.
bengraven
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But see, in the last year a branch has grown through his eye...now that we have a budget again in Season 6.
PhoenixDark
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Makes no sense for Bran not to appear. They can't come up with something on their own, or just surpass Martin? This really changes my assumptions about this season. I thought they'd be going into "spoiler" territory with some stuff; perhaps nothing major like deaths of course.
GentlemanCrow
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Looks more likely they will be spreading books 4&5 over seasons 5&6 as I hoped. Good. Give GRRM more time.
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