COMICS! |OT| September 2014. Means well, but is easily distracted and can get lost.
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GrandHarrier
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Going back to the Multiversity Map...
Is that
at the very top of it?
Is that
Time Trapper
BenjaminBirdie
Banned
Ya, but what caused that to happen? I figured it would be explained in this series, but nothing. Was it in some tie in? Considering there are like 15-20 superhero books with better writing/characterization/artwork than Original Sin, what is the point of an event book where nothing major happens? White Nick Fury got sidelined years ago. No one cares about the Watcher or any of the books villains. If you didn't buy the tie-ins you didn't even have a clue what these terrible secrets were. The biggest event of this series was the fact that Marvel got 100k of us to dish out $32 for this:
No one cares about the villains from Marvel Boy???????
WHAT PLANET IS THIS???
BenjaminBirdie
Banned
I spoilered the last sentence you didn't just to let you know you totally spoiled the issue by not spoilering it.
That said, I literally stood up reading that last page. Best Aaron comic I've ever read.
One of the best moments in that book is at the football field. I won't get into spoiler territory, but the scale of the field and the players and the muted colors with the bright blues and reds really did it for it for me. I love art with incredible proportions and depth.
tringworldso
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Spoilered your last sentence because you spoiled the main plot point. :-(
Edit: Damn, saw Benjie do the same to Messi lol...
Sorry I've changed the original post.
I'm going to be pissed if the final moments really do stick.
Damn you Aaron.
Rafa=FedKilla
Banned
That's why I am so pumped by the Oz omnibus coming tomorrow. Brah is just incredible.
Secret Six is coming back brahs. Here's hoping it lives up to its predecessor.
http://herocomplex.latimes.com/comi...ce=dlvr.it&utm_medium=twitter&dlvrit=57774#/0
http://herocomplex.latimes.com/comi...ce=dlvr.it&utm_medium=twitter&dlvrit=57774#/0
KoruptData
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I'm in for Ken Lashlys art. Dude is amazing.
Rrongfield
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BenjaminBirdie
Banned
what man i spoiler tagged don't lump me in with that dude
Tawney Bomb
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ViewtifulJC
Banned
This is where I am. I also have to accept this new continuity with a fuckin' Floyd Layton without a mustache...this planet breh
Truth
Agreed, I pretty much expect it to be crap (especially if her story from Sensation Comics is anything to go by), but hope to be proven wrong.
Rrongfield
Member
Well, about the last part...
I am not reading this though, he might have shaved it for all I know.
ViewtifulJC
Banned
Always knew you were one of the good ones, tim
Excited but it could fail miserably
Absolutely. It's what I've been saying all along. Aside from those two guest artist issues She-Hulk has been an absolute delight.
GrandHarrier
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Some people just prefer quality artwork tim and that is something that Pulido just can't offer.
ViewtifulJC
Banned
Marvel putting out an Grant Morrison Miracleman story LMAO as if that Alan Moore bridge hadn't been burned already
The story was brought to Quesada's attention several years ago through an interview with Morrison on The Beat. "I didn't want to do it without [Alan] Moore's permission, and I wrote to him and said, 'They've asked me to do this, but obviously I really respect you work, and I wouldn't want to mess anything up. But I don't want anyone else to do it and mess it up,'" Morrison recalled of the story, written for "Warrior" magazine. "And he sent me back this really weird letter, and I remember the opening of it, it said, 'I don't want this to sound like the softly hissed tones of a mafia hitman, but back off.'"
The story was brought to Quesada's attention several years ago through an interview with Morrison on The Beat. "I didn't want to do it without [Alan] Moore's permission, and I wrote to him and said, 'They've asked me to do this, but obviously I really respect you work, and I wouldn't want to mess anything up. But I don't want anyone else to do it and mess it up,'" Morrison recalled of the story, written for "Warrior" magazine. "And he sent me back this really weird letter, and I remember the opening of it, it said, 'I don't want this to sound like the softly hissed tones of a mafia hitman, but back off.'"
I really hope an OHC gets solicited for She-Hulk. I think I'd love it. I'm actually a big fan of both Pulido and Wimberley's art.
GrandHarrier
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Wow. That's amazing.
But the green woman with superhuman strength doesn't have a perfectly anatomically correct face!
GrandHarrier
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Art is subjective. No art is good or bad unless you think it is.
ViewtifulJC
Banned
Whats interesting to me is the thought that Morrison and Quesada might have remanded fences after they "broke up" in 2003 when he signed exclusive to DC after the apathy towards his Nick Fury and Marvel Boy 2 ideas
Allow me to paint the picture: Marvel is, for the first time in years, on an upswing. Theyve pulled themselves out of Chapter 11, and behind Joe Quesada as Editor In Chief, theyre enjoying a creative renaissance. Grant Morrison, who for the majority of the 1990s has worked on high profile projects at DC Comics has come to join the party at Marvel and is handed the keys to the kingdom of the X-Men. Along with long time collaborator Frank Quitely, New X-Men is flagship of the Morrison guided X-Men franchise. But the run is plagued with artistic delays as Quitely cant keep up and the likes of Igor Kordey, Ethan Van Sciver and Phil Jimenez step in to help the load, but the writing is solid. Everyone knows Morrison is on a legendary run of Marvels top characters.
And then they broke up. At the San Diego Comic Con 2003, its announced that Grant Morrison has signed an exclusive deal to DC Comics (one of the first in the wave of years of exclusive contract signings). Now, apparently Quesada found out about this as Grant told him at the San Diego Comic Con, moments before it was announced at a panel. It was a crushing blow to Quesada, or so the story goes.
Now here is where I inject my little bit of creepy weirdness. Im not 100%, but Im pretty sure I witnessed this meeting. And if not, I witnessed something shortly after this meeting. I vaguely remember walking the con floor and seeing Grant Morrison and Joe Quesada in a heated discussion. Their body language was that of a couple that was in the midst of a breakup. A lot of sighing and cold stares and you know how when one person steps away, sighs, and then steps back toward the person theyre fighting with? Exactly like that. Of course, at the time I had no idea, but once I heard the news (which ran through the con like wildfire), it all made sense.
Allow me to paint the picture: Marvel is, for the first time in years, on an upswing. Theyve pulled themselves out of Chapter 11, and behind Joe Quesada as Editor In Chief, theyre enjoying a creative renaissance. Grant Morrison, who for the majority of the 1990s has worked on high profile projects at DC Comics has come to join the party at Marvel and is handed the keys to the kingdom of the X-Men. Along with long time collaborator Frank Quitely, New X-Men is flagship of the Morrison guided X-Men franchise. But the run is plagued with artistic delays as Quitely cant keep up and the likes of Igor Kordey, Ethan Van Sciver and Phil Jimenez step in to help the load, but the writing is solid. Everyone knows Morrison is on a legendary run of Marvels top characters.
And then they broke up. At the San Diego Comic Con 2003, its announced that Grant Morrison has signed an exclusive deal to DC Comics (one of the first in the wave of years of exclusive contract signings). Now, apparently Quesada found out about this as Grant told him at the San Diego Comic Con, moments before it was announced at a panel. It was a crushing blow to Quesada, or so the story goes.
Now here is where I inject my little bit of creepy weirdness. Im not 100%, but Im pretty sure I witnessed this meeting. And if not, I witnessed something shortly after this meeting. I vaguely remember walking the con floor and seeing Grant Morrison and Joe Quesada in a heated discussion. Their body language was that of a couple that was in the midst of a breakup. A lot of sighing and cold stares and you know how when one person steps away, sighs, and then steps back toward the person theyre fighting with? Exactly like that. Of course, at the time I had no idea, but once I heard the news (which ran through the con like wildfire), it all made sense.
Tyrant Rave
Banned
Pulido has his ups and downs. I don't think it's right to completely ignore any criticisms towards his art and I also don't think it's fair to dismiss his art as being completely bad. Some of his splashes, like the one of Jen and Daredevil in the air, look awesome but then a lot of the panel-to-panel stuff with Jen looks way off.
I personally dropped She-Hulk because I was just kind of bored with the writing. It's not a bad book but it's not for me. I prefer the way Slott writes her.
I personally dropped She-Hulk because I was just kind of bored with the writing. It's not a bad book but it's not for me. I prefer the way Slott writes her.
Sick burn
GrandHarrier
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It becomes increasingly difficult to take art conversations seriously, to me, because I've noticed a growing trend where some people who are so against house style will latch onto and love anything that isn't house style. You could point out the flaws, inconsistencies, explain why it is bad, but it just doesn't matter. One can look at art and be like, yep, Person X will like this not because it's good but because it's different. It can be bad different but it's still good simply because it's different.
A good example was that terrible Batman Eternal art a few issues back. You could post pictures of horrifically deformed faces with disturbing eyes and gaping mouths from the depths of hell, but it was like, you just don't get it. It's European and Indie and shits on everything else.
Everything I just said applies also to people like me, who like clean linework, who are instantly turned off by certain art.
A good example was that terrible Batman Eternal art a few issues back. You could post pictures of horrifically deformed faces with disturbing eyes and gaping mouths from the depths of hell, but it was like, you just don't get it. It's European and Indie and shits on everything else.
Everything I just said applies also to people like me, who like clean linework, who are instantly turned off by certain art.
Rafa=FedKilla
Banned
Marvel needs to stop trying to make Miracleman happen. Nobody cares about five dollar reprints or "long lost" stories from the 80's. They are forgotten for a reason.
This is not bad art.
It's always this page people use to defend She Hulk. What about the other pages?
I'm not shitting in the book. I quite enjoy it. But the art is incredibly inconsistent. Sometimes it looks great like above and other times Jen looks like a dolphin.
Tyrant Rave
Banned
I always liked this too:
Here's some more that I don't want to post openly so as not to spoil tim1138 or other new readers.
Shin Johnpv
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I'm gonna need all the motherfucking salts this is too much TOO MUCH ENTIRELY TOO GODDAMN MUCH
BenjaminBirdie
Banned
how is this a bad drawing
GrandHarrier
Member
Legit question; Does she have an eye condition? Perhaps some sort of neural disorder?
I'll straight apologize if all this time they've just been referencing some sort of gamma ray aggravated lazy eye.
Also, I'd like to know what happens to her cheek bones in half the panels. Can she absorb and reform them at will?
GrandHarrier
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Well maybe we are saying something to you without saying it, bro. Maybe we're saying the evolution needs to continue, rather than revert.
It's not always that bad:
Edit: Also is this seriously happening just after I change my avatar back from She-Hulk Pizza Dog to Regular Variety Pizza Dog?
See I like this.
Art is subjective. Nothing will ever change that.
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