PlayStation Network Thread (Vita/PS3/PS4) | September 2014

If all VITA titles end up on PS4 then that is good for me. VITA is a good system just like the 3DS but i prefer playing games on home consoles/PC i will not be buying a New 3DS or a New VITA
(lol)
for that matter. Mobile games will probably fill in my portable system needs for the future.

Sony offers a way to play Vita games on large screen, but no, let hope the PS4 get all the Vita exclusive instead of helping the franchise to grow on its original place.

Sony's support for dying console has been terrible as of late. I really wish they learn a bit from Nintendo, honestly.

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Top of the page: To people who got Muramasa through IGC, buy all the DLC. They are overdelievering in value.
 
Where is my invitation? If you ever come to SP, we can also make a SP VitaGAF reunion as well!

Hehe, be our guest :). And we will go to SP soon, promise. For sure on Lollapalloza 2015, but it depends on the lineup. We wanted to see the David Bowie exibition so bad, but REAL LIFE (tm) got in the way.
 
I was hoping the Vita TV was a little bit cheaper in the UK but i will get it day 1. Freedom wars will be the first game i will play on the big screen!

Dunno about the UK price, but the $100 USD is crazy cheap. Hope they advertise it a bit. Then again I think the Gamecube eventually hit that, but the Vita TV gets you PSP, PS1 and PS Now too. All in all a very weird but very cool little box.

Thanks man. As far as I can tell, he didn't actually mention any platforms there, he just said that it's coming.

A hint of PS4 but it was PS Vita or PS4 or nothing. LBP3 might be the last first party ps3 game if I'm not mistaken, they've transitioned admirably quick (even if third party hasn't)
 
Thanks man. As far as I can tell, he didn't actually mention any platforms there, he just said that it's coming.
I had assumed his ''what's a vita'' comment was a sort of jab at Sony not supporting the platform rather than a personal dig at it, thus concluded Gravity Rush is probably not going to be on Vita.
 
I had assumed his ''what's a vita'' comment was a sort of jab at Sony not supporting the platform rather than a personal dig at it, thus concluded Gravity Rush is probably not going to be on Vita.
That's not "hinting" at all. He's just being Shinobi.
"What about X?"
"I've been hearing nice things, it's coming"

And I think something like that is completely out of his reach, only DemonNite or Verendus would know about a SCEJ title.
 
Sony offers a way to play Vita games on large screen, but no, let hope the PS4 get all the Vita exclusive instead of helping the franchise to grow on its original place.

Sony's support for dying console has been terrible as of late. I really wish they learn a bit from Nintendo, honestly.

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Top of the page: To people who got Muramasa through IGC, buy all the DLC. They are overdelievering in value.

I am not defending Sony practices for the Vita but it makes more sense to have franchises like Tearaway which sold poorly on the Vita to have a second chance on the more successful system. The Vita is just going to end up being an Indie/ 3rd party machine and that is fine by me but the PS4 will probably be the go to system for me this gen.

Nintendo is in a unique position they will always make handhelds no matter if the 3DS is not meeting expectations. Same with the Wii U it has amazing first party support but it will probably sell less than the Gamecube.

That's not "hinting" at all. He's just being Shinobi.
"What about X?"
"I've been hearing nice things, it's coming"

And I think something like that is completely out of his reach, only DemonNite or Verendus would know about a SCEJ title.

I am still waiting for Yakuza Ishin to come over btw.
 
That's not "hinting" at all. He's just being Shinobi.
"What about X?"
"I've been hearing nice things, it's coming"

And I think something like that is completely out of his reach, only DemonNite or Verendus would know about a SCEJ title.
Shinobi was saying that Sony and third parties still had new games too announce at TGS, and since he does actually seem to have inside info I assumed he must know something rather than saying things just to hype people :(
 
Wouldn't Nov 2nd/3rd be the PS+ release? It was confirmed for PS+ ages ago anyway.

Oh cool, I didn't know that. Thought the early month release could indicate that it would feature in that month's PS+, like Velocty 2X releasing the first week of September. Nice to hear it's confirmed.
 
I am still waiting for Yakuza Ishin to come over btw.
Well, that's the only thing that hasn't happened yet, I tried asking him about it but he never answered.

Shinobi was saying that Sony and third parties still had new games too announce at TGS, and since he does actually seem to have inside info I assumed he must know something rather than saying things just to hype people :(
He might know something about tgs because someone told him, but we all know GR2 "is coming".
 
I am not defending Sony practices for the Vita but it makes more sense to have franchises like Tearaway which sold poorly on the Vita to have a second chance on the more successful system. The Vita is just going to end up being an Indie/ 3rd party machine and that is fine by me but the PS4 will probably be the go to system for me this gen.

Nintendo is in a unique position they will always make handhelds no matter if the 3DS is not meeting expectations. Same with the Wii U it has amazing first party support but it will probably sell less than the Gamecube.

There are many more franchise that need to be revived and it will work better on home console, but for some reasons they think taking away Vita's franchise is actually a better move. The PS4 userbase who keeps saying they want all Vita's franchise and refuse to buy the Vita doesn't help either.

After getting the PS4 to play Diablo 3 with my friends 2 weeks ago, I finally understand why the Japanese doesn't buy the PS4. There is no game that I want to play on that console. All those new shiny graphic does nothing to hold my interest. I borrowed my friend's Killzone and Infamous, then dropped them after 1 hour of playing. I guess my PS4 will gather dust until Bloodborne comes out. The western gaming scene on console is pretty much dead to me.

At least Nintendo doesn't give up on the WiiU. Sony has been so fast at cutting support for anything that doesn't provide them with good revenue these days.
 
There are many more franchise that need to be revived and it will work better on home console, but for some reasons they think taking away Vita's franchise is actually a better move. The PS4 userbase who keeps saying they want all Vita's franchise and refuse to buy the Vita doesn't help either.

After getting the PS4 to play Diablo 3 with my friends 2 weeks ago, I finally understand why the Japanese doesn't buy the PS4. There is no game that I want to play on that console. All those new shiny graphic does nothing to hold my interest. I borrowed my friend's Killzone and Infamous, then dropped them after 1 hour of playing. I guess my PS4 will gather dust until Bloodborne comes out. The western gaming scene on console is pretty much dead to me.

At least Nintendo doesn't give up on the WiiU. Sony has been so fast at cutting support for anything that doesn't provide them with good revenue these days.

In my opinion that is the smartest thing Sony has done for the PS4 is focus on the west. The PS3 was a very slow burn for me but i am excited that the first 4 months of 2015 will be the best gaming months in recent memory. End of 2014 is pretty good as well but most of the games are crossgen.

:O Destiny on vita.
 
In my opinion that is the smartest thing Sony has done for the PS4 is focus on the west. The PS3 was a very slow burn for me but i am excited that the first 4 months of 2015 will be the best gaming months in recent memory. End of 2014 is pretty good as well but most of the games are crossgen.

The start of the PS3's life was ugly, mostly third-rate crap at launch and big games still releasing on PS2--best thing I played on my PS3 for a year was God of War 2, a bit embarassing. They handled this so much better, shame Japan itself isn't really picking up on it, but JP games are starting to come over. Dat disgaea 5


I forgot to try out remote play, allegedly it's surprisingly playable. The Last of Us Remastered did a pretty good job of setting up Vita controls (doesn't actually seem like that much work)
 
Guys i need to buy one more game for my vita and its the last game. for this month at least. I have 20 dollars and I'm between Super stardust delta ( the complete game with dlc) or rouge legacy. Help!
Rouge legacy is downloading I'm playing super stardust delta's demo and its awesome. Hope rouge legacy is a better game or I will regret it till next month. Is the super stardust delta's dlc worth the money?
I realllllly like Rougue Legacy, it's awesome, but I would be one of the few to say SSD over it. To me, SSD is an "endless" game, where the only thing holding you back are other peoples high scores. Rogue Legacy will take a verrrrrrry looooong time to do, get, and see everything, but not sure what else can be done after that. The DLC for SSD I feel is worth it, but I can't remember the price. The 4 extra modes are cool, and feature unique ways to play. Endless mode, which is awesome, speaks for itself. Bomber and impact mode are very fun, but the standout I think is the twin gun mode. You move the ship by tilting the vita, and each stick controls a weapon. Imagine two fire whips encircling your vessel in a swath of destructive protection. It's very tricky to get down, and honestly those DLC modes are played the least for me, aside from the minigames, but that is only because I am always score chasing in that game.

You really can't go wrong either way, as both are really great games. SSD is my personal pick though. Also, expect a FR from me cause I always love having more people in my SSD score list to compare to :D
It's. Finally. Over.
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After almost a year, I have finally platinum'ed Rayman Legends.
The save was promptly backed up to the PS+ cloud and the game was swiftly deleted. 1.3gb back on my card.

Good riddence.
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Ho-leeeee shit. Congrats. I remember reading about your trials and tribulations on your way to the Plat months and months and months ago. That's quite the accomplishment and dedication!
and a notable 1st party character...i'm still pretty salty.

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I...never saw this....please add my salt to the pile....

Regarding PSAS, it's a pretty solid game once you really dig in to it, or know people who will/have. The game requires a much finer understanding of each character to get the most out of it, so you know exactly when to use your supers at varying levels. SSB is much easier to pick up and play, but PSAS has rewarded me greatly during my time with it thanks to the community I was playing with.
 
Velocity 2X has a lot to answer for... I decided to check out Velocity Ultra again to see what I had left to do and it was mainly just perfecting a few levels (and minesweeper). A few hours later and...



My one complaint with Ultra is that Stage 50 was a bit of a pain in the ass to do, having to do it completely perfectly is a pretty tall order, that's not something I want to have to do again (at least until I go for the Velocity 2X platinum!)
 
At least Nintendo doesn't give up on the WiiU. Sony has been so fast at cutting support for anything that doesn't provide them with good revenue these days.

Nintendo didnt give up on Wii U because they have no other choice, only their pirst party studios keep it alive, with Vita we have opposite situation, it have good 3rd party and indie support,and as AAA machine is great, but market didn't accept it in that way.
 
The start of the PS3's life was ugly, mostly third-rate crap at launch and big games still releasing on PS2--best thing I played on my PS3 for a year was God of War 2, a bit embarassing. They handled this so much better, shame Japan itself isn't really picking up on it, but JP games are starting to come over. Dat disgaea 5



I forgot to try out remote play, allegedly it's surprisingly playable. The Last of Us Remastered did a pretty good job of setting up Vita controls (doesn't actually seem like that much work)

Yup i bought a 360 early on because it met my needs but then switched to PS3. I think Persona 5 will convince a lot of Japanese devs to bring over their games to PS4.
 
I forgot to try out remote play, allegedly it's surprisingly playable.

I tried it for a couple of hours during the beta. Definitely good enough for non-PvP play. The control scheme is very well thought out and aiming is actually doable with the Vita's tiny thumbsticks.

Of course DS4 compatibility for remote play would be godly.
 
Maybe they would now, since, you know, it has games that are not terrible COD or AC spinoffs.
Seriously? Vita had a fuck ton of games day 1. The launch lineup alone was godlike. UC, Wipeout, Lumines, Rayman Origins, Mutant Blobs Attack, Super Stardust Delta etc. Later in the year it got other great games like Unit 13, Gravity Rush, Littlebigplanet, Sound Shapes, Sonc Transformed among others. Vita had a fantastic lineup of games in 2012. COD and AC being shit didn't change that.
 
I'm not a fan of remote play at all, to be honest. Most games are completely playable on the Vita, but those font sizes are way too small on the Vita's 5-inch screen. This is coming from someone who has no problem with NFSMW and Borderlands 2 on the Vita. I only really use remote play as an alternative to a second controller.
 
Seriously? Vita had a fuck ton of games day 1. The launch lineup alone was godlike. UC, Wipeout, Lumines, Rayman Origins, Mutant Blobs Attack, Super Stardust Delta etc. Later in the year it got other great games like Unit 13, Gravity Rush, Littlebigplanet, Sound Shapes, Sonc Transformed among others. Vita had a fantastic lineup of games in 2012. COD and AC being shit didn't change that.
The best selling games on the platform being shit didn't change the initial perception of the platform?
And yes, the launch lineup was good but it still was an expensive handheld, a bunch of mediocre to good spinoffs aren't gonna cut it unless it's GTA or something.
If Sony actually started advertising the japanese games that are coming out I can assure you it'd be a fairly popular platform at this point.
 
I'm not a fan of remote play at all, to be honest. Most games are completely playable on the Vita, but those font sizes are way too small on the Vita's 5-inch screen. This is coming from someone who has no problem with NFSMW and Borderlands 2 on the Vita. I only really use remote play as an alternative to a second controller.

I'm kind of with you on that. I tested a few times in the last week, once from 5 minutes from home and the other from about 2 hours away, and it worked beautifully, but I have very little interest in playing PS4 games on there at the moment. The controls typically aren't great and as you mentioned the fonts can be an issue.
 
Nintendo didnt give up on Wii U because they have no other choice, only their pirst party studios keep it alive, with Vita we have opposite situation, it have good 3rd party and indie support,and as AAA machine is great, but market didn't accept it in that way.

Vita has good third party support????
 
Seriously? Vita had a fuck ton of games day 1. The launch lineup alone was godlike. UC, Wipeout, Lumines, Rayman Origins, Mutant Blobs Attack, Super Stardust Delta etc. Later in the year it got other great games like Unit 13, Gravity Rush, Littlebigplanet, Sound Shapes, Sonc Transformed among others. Vita had a fantastic lineup of games in 2012. COD and AC being shit didn't change that.

But did Sony advertise it? Show it off a lot at there shows? Space there Vita library well enough so there aren't months of game droughts? Have a competitive pricing model to the 3DS (which at the time, just got its steep price cut from 250$ to 179$)?

Sony had the games in 2012.....the issue, was that they didn't space them out enough. The same issue happened in the Wii U's first year; lots of games at launch, but not much afterwards.

If Sony made the launch line up shorter and only had 10+ games instead of 30 games, then they could have spent more time polishing those other 20 games and made sure they had a strong release set up. I mean, if the launch was just this:

-Uncharted
-Wipeout
-MLB The Show
-Rayman Origins
-UMvC3
-Mutant Blobs
-Plants vs. Zombies
-Super Stardust Delta
-Dynasty Warriors Next

That would have been more then enough to entice the buyer. Then the other games could have gotten more polish and gameplay fixes (Katamari could have had more content, Army Crops of Hell could have been a bit better, Dungeon Hunter Vita could of pushed the system more) and Sony's tittles could have had more time to become better games.

-Escape Plan could have had more levels day one with some gameplay improvements with a month or two more dev time
-Gravity Rush could have been a big fall tittle alongside Resistance; both benefit from the longer dev time with more content, games running better and Resistance being more feature packed
-Reality Fighters could of been re-tooled into a stronger fighting game
-PlayStation All Stars could have been pushed back a year with more funding to include fan requested characters, MUCH stronger presentation and more gameplay modes
-LBP Vita coming out the same as it did

That would have made 2012 AND 2013 (as some of these would have been pushed back a year for more development) more packed with Sony games :).

Also, a extra year of development for the AC and Call of Duty Vita games could have did ALOT to make them better (them running much better, looking ALOT better, more content (COD specifically), ect).

The issue wasn't that the 'Vita haz no gamez!" back then, but more so that they weren't spaced out well enough. They just....threw them out all at once, but then they had nothing to show off latter on.

I didn't own a Vita back then (got mine in June 2013) but didn't the system have bad droughts? I mean, you guys had to wait a good while before Gravity Rush landed on the Vita (I think....four months?)..... That isn't good X(.
 
The best selling games on the platform being shit didn't change the initial perception of the platform?
And yes, the launch lineup was good but it still was an expensive handheld, a bunch of mediocre to good spinoffs aren't gonna cut it unless it's GTA or something.
If Sony actually started advertising the japanese games that are coming out I can assure you it'd be a fairly popular platform by this point.
I can assure you it woudn't. And initial perception? Vita sold like shit long before those game came out and likely would have kept doing so even if they were good. Sony had Uncharted as a launch title and nobody cared. They had a fantastic lineup early and nobody cared. Compare that to a system like PS4. System with a mediocre lineup flew off the shelves straight away. I firmly believe games were never the issue.
 

It wouldn't have mattered anyway. The market, from developers to consumers, decided it didn't want a "PS3 Portable" before the Vita even came out. They tried everything from PS3 ports, to AAA spin-offs, casual/kids games, mobile ports. What the market accepted is what we have now, niche localizations and indie games.

Speaking of which, Sony is actually paying developers to make their games on Vita. They're finding a sustainable way to support the system, and I for one am enjoying it.
 
It wouldn't have mattered anyway. The market, from developers to consumers, decided it didn't want a "PS3 Portable" before the Vita even came out.

Sony could of at least TRIED to make it more appealing my making the games stronger quality :l.

I mean, with longer development time, the games could have been even better then they are now.

For example, if they pushed back PSAS, AC: Liberation and COD: Declassified, that really could have done wonders for those games :D. More content, better visuals/presentation, stronger and tighter gameplay, and in the case of AC and COD, games that honor the quality there console versions have.

PSAS really need the extra funding and development though, as the roster could of been better and the presentation could have been much, much better (it honestly is garing; the menus look something out of a dirt cheap PSN game but the gameplay visuals, animations and stages look great!).

.....Sony could of did more, I think :l.

Edit: Man, forgot about there pub-fund games XD! Loved Gucamelee and that new game Salt & Sanctuary looks really interesting :). Great move by them having that type of development model set up for smaller developers :D.
 
Does someone remember if the PSP versions of Disgaea 1&2 were ever on sale in EU?
I want to get into the series with the first one and hoped for a Disgaea sale when the 4th game came out but they only put the 3rd one on sale (which I might buy).
 
I can assure you it woudn't. And initial perception? Vita sold like shit long before those game came out and likely would have kept doing so even if they were good. Sony had Uncharted as a launch title and nobody cared. They had a fantastic lineup early and nobody cared. Compare that to a system like PS4. System with a mediocre lineup flew off the shelves straight away. I firmly believe games were never the issue.
Sony is the issue. There's no way around it. And I don't know how you can deny that when people literally don't know what's a Vita.

The PSP was an exception since it's the only handheld that ever had strong 3rd party support from western devs but that was just because Sony paid for those games, the west isn't interested in handheld games or consoles, it's never gonna happen again. If you're not targeting directly the niche that is interested in handhelds emphasizing its japanese library, you're sending the platform to die.

Home consoles are an entirely different thing that shouldn't even be compared.
 
Does someone remember if the PSP versions of Disgaea 1&2 were ever on sale in EU?
I want to get into the series with the first one and hoped for a Disgaea sale when the 4th game came out but they only put the 3rd one on sale (which I might buy).

Can't remember them being on sale to be honest... I am actually experiencing the same situation as you are since I want to get into the Disgaea Series but I don't know with which one. Also tending to 3 at the moment because of the sale but I heard it's the weakest game of the series?
 
Sony is the issue. There's no way around it. And I don't know how you can deny that when people literally don't know what's a Vita.

The PSP was an exception since it's the only handheld that ever had strong 3rd party support from western devs but that was just because Sony paid for those games, the west isn't interested in handheld games or consoles, it's never gonna happen again. If you're not targeting directly the niche that is interested in handhelds emphasizing its japanese library, you're sending the platform to die.

Home consoles are an entirely different thing that shouldn't even be compared.

Sony is definitely the issue, if they had any business sense they wouldn't have released the Vita to begin with. Luckily, for a very small number of people (like me), the hard work of a few teams at Sony managed to turn into a blissful gaming device.

The PSP had third party support because during those days publishers like EA were making 70-80 games per year. It was cheap and made sense to make spin-offs for smaller platforms. Now those same publishers are making 10 or fewer games per year, investing significantly more per-game. Each game requires post release support as well, and is expected to be a revenue stream for a long time. In this reality it doesn't make sense to go exclusive to a single platform, let alone a handheld platform.
 
Can't remember them being on sale to be honest... I am actually experiencing the same situation as you are since I want to get into the Disgaea Series but I don't know with which one. Also tending to 3 at the moment because of the sale but I heard it's the weakest game of the series?

I heard the first one is the best in terms of story and the gameplay gets better (new mechanics etc) the further you get into the series.
 
Vita has good third party support????
Well to be fair indies and Japanese developers are third parties, so technically it has third party support, Vita lacks big games, mostly western, so yeah it could be a lot better, but honestly i think we are only missing some big Japanese games, no more big games from western developers on handhelds imo.

It wouldn't have mattered anyway. The market, from developers to consumers, decided it didn't want a "PS3 Portable" before the Vita even came out. They tried everything from PS3 ports, to AAA spin-offs, casual/kids games, mobile ports. What the market accepted is what we have now, niche localizations and indie games.

Speaking of which, Sony is actually paying developers to make their games on Vita. They're finding a sustainable way to support the system, and I for one am enjoying it.
You make it sound like developers wanted to do only a PS4 version and Sony paid them for a Vita version, but it's written nowhere that's like it.

Imo people underestimate the power of internet, opinions and ads.
I remember it perfectly, already before the launch there was a big hating campaign accusing Vita of having no gaemz and to be doomed, people like me that was interested in it and was not lazy enough to just hear to some 3DS/IOS(/and some PS3) fanboys knew what was the truth, and in fact Vita had one of the best launch lineups, but most of the people was not like that, there was a heavy pessimism about Vita, it was considered DOA, who buys something that's considered doomed? No one.
"Vita haz no gaemz" even become a sort of funny meme that people liked to say as much as possible, and despite everything people still like to make fun of Vita.
And what Sony did to fight all of this? Not only Sony did nothing to sell Vita, but they confirmed the no gaemz thing by never showing anything at E3, the most important gaming event followed by everyone.
That's the truth.

About developers i think that they would have been happy to recycle their assets to make easy and cheap spinoffs or ports, but in any case no big exclusives from western developers because they just don't care about handhelds.
 
Anyone gotten their voucher from the PLAY promotion? Blog post said they be delivered no later than 9/5. I bought all four games, but haven't received my credit yet.
 
Sony is definitely the issue, if they had any business sense they wouldn't have released the Vita to begin with

So you are suggesting that they should abandon the Japanese & Asia market too? Or are you referring to Western only?
 
Sony is definitely the issue, if they had any business sense they wouldn't have released the Vita to begin with. Luckily, for a very small number of people (like me), the hard work of a few teams at Sony managed to turn into a blissful gaming device.

If they have business sense they should have secure that Monster Hunter.
 
Does someone remember if the PSP versions of Disgaea 1&2 were ever on sale in EU?
I want to get into the series with the first one and hoped for a Disgaea sale when the 4th game came out but they only put the 3rd one on sale (which I might buy).
I know Disgaea 1 has been on sale because I picked it up for about 50% off this time last year.
 
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