Why haven't you bought a PC yet?
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Tal Shiar Agent
Banned
I have, but it's low end now. I only play Bethesda and Firaxis games on it. My PS4 is my main gaming platform, especially for multiplayer games. Everyone is on an equal footing, no variations in hardware (baring a better HDD). It is more fair, I'm not punished because I don't have a fancy keyboard with extra programmable keys or the best CPU/GPU combo so I can play in 4K at 60fps.
LiquidMetal14
hide your water-based mammals
That's why I'm waiting until early next year to build mine
I've got one, and PC gaming is fucking great. The problem is, my PC is set up in my office on a 42" HDTV (because I only use it for gaming) and I don't go in there much. I thought about moving it to the living room TV, but I don't want to tie that one up in case other people want to use it.
I should probably buy a Shield.
I should probably buy a Shield.
boneso
Member
You are joking right? I really hope this is sarcasm...
MrCunningham
Member
Almost everything is automated these days. If you are using an Nvidia card, then the Geforce Experience will handle your driver installations for you, including beta drivers. I'm not sure what the AMD side of things are like, but I'm sure they have something similar. Almost all games are downloaded through software managers like Steam, Origin or other. Updates are all automatic. PC and consoles are almost completely 1:1 in this respect now, there are just as many patches for console games as there are for PC games now.
It makes me feel old when I think back to when you had to download the latest patches for a PC game manually from File Planet or Gamershell or something.
Finaika
Member
I pity your g/f for not having any interest in gaming.
She is missing out great experiences.
boneso
Member
Trust me when i say, nobody is playing in 4k at 60fps...
Freeman
Banned
I've been playing on PC my entire life,to me it feels like its always ahead of the curve compared to consoles when it comes to a lot of things.
PC actually has some of the best exclusive since entire genres like RTS\TBS, MOBAs, MMOs, simulators, etc, are mostly only present on PC.
PC also has great backwards compatibility an can emulate most gaming console that ever existed including the Wii.
There were a lot of improvements on PC in the last couple of years, it gets games it wouldn't in the past (overall a positive thing even if PC only AAA devs became are a rare thing now), there's digital distribution, sales, bundles, controller support, more hardware option and a cheap PC is quite capable today (1080p is all I need for now and today a 200$ or less GPU can easily handle almost anything at max settings while maintaining 60fps.
I couldn't go PC only for an entire gen anymore like I have done in the past, there are some games I much rather have on consoles like sport games and other games that have local multiplayer, not to mention some great console exclusive games that are a must play for me. PS+ also offers a ton of value for me. You also get a free PC controller by having a console.
My strategy is to wait until there is enough exclusive games to justify buying the console I want (for the PS4 this will likely be 2015) and in the meantime I can enjoy multiplataform games on PC paying much less and finish playing what is left for me on PS3. Many publishers now price their games taking into consideration the region, so in many cases the games cost less than half at release here since console games are a ripoff unless I import them or buy digital (digital distribution is only worth it if I get a deep discount).
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PC actually has some of the best exclusive since entire genres like RTS\TBS, MOBAs, MMOs, simulators, etc, are mostly only present on PC.
PC also has great backwards compatibility an can emulate most gaming console that ever existed including the Wii.
There were a lot of improvements on PC in the last couple of years, it gets games it wouldn't in the past (overall a positive thing even if PC only AAA devs became are a rare thing now), there's digital distribution, sales, bundles, controller support, more hardware option and a cheap PC is quite capable today (1080p is all I need for now and today a 200$ or less GPU can easily handle almost anything at max settings while maintaining 60fps.
I couldn't go PC only for an entire gen anymore like I have done in the past, there are some games I much rather have on consoles like sport games and other games that have local multiplayer, not to mention some great console exclusive games that are a must play for me. PS+ also offers a ton of value for me. You also get a free PC controller by having a console.
My strategy is to wait until there is enough exclusive games to justify buying the console I want (for the PS4 this will likely be 2015) and in the meantime I can enjoy multiplataform games on PC paying much less and finish playing what is left for me on PS3. Many publishers now price their games taking into consideration the region, so in many cases the games cost less than half at release here since console games are a ripoff unless I import them or buy digital (digital distribution is only worth it if I get a deep discount).
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Stallion Free
Cock Encumbered
Depends on the game. There are plenty of games from last gen that can be played at 4k 60 fps easily.
Atraveller
Banned
You might be interested in a wireless HDMI transmitter.
Gipsy Danger
Member
People do not have an advantage over you because they have programmable keys. Nor would any difference in specs matter as long as everyone has a stable framerate.
AdventureRacing
Member
Did you even read the line of conversation that you were responding to? If not then you probably shouldn't have responded at all.
If you don't see the elitist crap on GAF or when actually playing games where do you actually see it? How is it such a big problem so as to turn you off from playing PC games?
Also as linked above i can show you countless examples of console gamers doing exactly what you're complaining about and you completely ignore it. Yet because a small number of PC gamers do it all of a sudden it's this big thing.
Gipsy Danger
Member
Steam in-home streaming, man. Try it, it's great (and free).
Edit: Sendou beat me. And he has a link!
TV gaming doesn't really fit my lifestyle though, so I need a way of playing the PC that doesn't require a TV. Seems like the Shield is the perfect tool for the job, I'm just a little bit wary because they ain't cheap, especially when I factor in a new graphics card to go with it.
I'll check it out and see what's on offer. My PC is pretty much a Steambox anyway (only use it for gaming, Big Picture mode all the way).
elgatolopez
Neo Member
Hello everyone first post in here 
I used to be a avid PC gamer and really enjoyed my experience in MMORPG like Guild Wars.
The main reason i moved to xbox 360 before and xbox one now is the time i can dedicate to games.
When i was a student i had a lot of time to play games. Now that i'm working is not like that anymore. I don't want to waste my time configuring the hardware and all the related things needed to optimize my gaming experience on a computer.
Another point is that keeping a computer upgraded is, too me at least, way expensive a while a minimum investment on a console lets you play games for, i'm just guessing, 5-6 years without any need to invest more money on hardware.
At least i can still consider myself a pc-gamer because i use my iMac to play poker
Cheers
I used to be a avid PC gamer and really enjoyed my experience in MMORPG like Guild Wars. The main reason i moved to xbox 360 before and xbox one now is the time i can dedicate to games.
When i was a student i had a lot of time to play games. Now that i'm working is not like that anymore. I don't want to waste my time configuring the hardware and all the related things needed to optimize my gaming experience on a computer.
Another point is that keeping a computer upgraded is, too me at least, way expensive a while a minimum investment on a console lets you play games for, i'm just guessing, 5-6 years without any need to invest more money on hardware.
At least i can still consider myself a pc-gamer because i use my iMac to play poker
Cheers
Trust me. I'm a PhD
Member
You western centric egotists! ...Computers are significantly more expensive here than in, say, the US. I got a PS4 for 450 USD. It will play 99.9% of the games I want to play and look good doing it. I like the ecosystem. PS+ feeds me more games than I literally have free time to play. And it does not cost me 1100 USD (Going price for a PC with 8GBs ram and Windows 7) and does not have to be replaced in 3 years when a game comes out that needs 10GBs (as a PS4 will still exist).
Too long/Didn't read: Some people like their systems and have very good reasons for not being a PC gamer like yourself.
Too long/Didn't read: Some people like their systems and have very good reasons for not being a PC gamer like yourself.
I don't think many people are playing at 4k, but there will be a minority of players with 120hz monitors, which probably does lend a small, but noticeable advantage.
Its hardly so 'unbalanced' on PC, though. A console player sat 6ft. in front of their TV also has an advantage over another person sat 10ft away from their TV(assuming same size and resolution). Doesn't mean console gaming is 'unbalanced', its just minor little differences in people's setups.
I find my self in a strange situation these days.
Have built my own gaming pc's for almost 18 years now, and while I still enjoy the build I just lack the motivation to game on it.
And it's mostly down to the tedious bugs that pop up in most games, most recent example being Diablo 3, even on a shiny new 780ti and i7 the frame rate is in the shitter with the latest patch.
I hop over to PS4 and fair enough, it's not the same patch version, but everything just works.
I think part of my problem is i'm spending too much on new pc hardware and because of that I hold it to a higher standard than a closed system much cheaper console.
My other problem is I like competitive multiplayer, and the cheating and hacking on PC is a real turn off, I don't always want to find a closed server with a hopefully managed safe community, sometimes I just want to murder random noobs.
Console gives me that experience perfectly and I never have any concerns about my gaming experience being ruined.
Lastly, being a father now, sitting on a sofa with a controller is a lot more manageable than gaming on my pc.
So, I agree, PC gaming can be the ultimate experience, but for me it has lost much of its value.
Have built my own gaming pc's for almost 18 years now, and while I still enjoy the build I just lack the motivation to game on it.
And it's mostly down to the tedious bugs that pop up in most games, most recent example being Diablo 3, even on a shiny new 780ti and i7 the frame rate is in the shitter with the latest patch.
I hop over to PS4 and fair enough, it's not the same patch version, but everything just works.
I think part of my problem is i'm spending too much on new pc hardware and because of that I hold it to a higher standard than a closed system much cheaper console.
My other problem is I like competitive multiplayer, and the cheating and hacking on PC is a real turn off, I don't always want to find a closed server with a hopefully managed safe community, sometimes I just want to murder random noobs.
Console gives me that experience perfectly and I never have any concerns about my gaming experience being ruined.
Lastly, being a father now, sitting on a sofa with a controller is a lot more manageable than gaming on my pc.
So, I agree, PC gaming can be the ultimate experience, but for me it has lost much of its value.
Minsc
Gold Member
I definitely agree with that too. There's a limit to how many games you can get through a year, and these days, owning a couple of platforms (even just a single handheld or console like you mention) can easily surpass that limit. But even still, if your tastes are pretty broad in gaming (like if you don't only play multi-player, online AAA FPS games, etc), you are still probably well served investing a few hundred bucks in a PC capable device, to play some of the highly rated games on the platform. RPG, adventure gaming, strategy games, sims, and plenty of other genres have tons of entries that routinely rank in the best RPG/whatever games of all time lists. So just having the option to play these top-rated games is nice. But still, PCs aren't for everyone, some people want what they want and nothing more. Gaming is generally a leisurely actively, and when it comes to spending free time, that's up to each person to decide.
The main reason for me are console exclusives from Japan. There has been a recent trend of PC ports of those games but the huge majority of my games is still not playable on PC.
In addition, most of my favorite games are not pushing the limits in terms of graphics and performance and I therefore rarely had the feeling that I could have a much improved experience on a PC.
KB+M support is often considered one of the main advantages of a PC and it definitely is IF you are into genres which benefit from it. I own 0 FPS and mainly play J-RPGs, Fifa, Character-Action games like Bayonetta and some 3rd person shooters here and there which are imo completely fine with a pad.
The only genre I like which benefits from KB+M are RTS which practically don't exist on consoles anyway and my average notebook can still run Rise of Nations, so I am good.
So yeah, I can definitely see the advantages of PC gaming but I have the feeling that they aren't crucial for myself.
In addition, most of my favorite games are not pushing the limits in terms of graphics and performance and I therefore rarely had the feeling that I could have a much improved experience on a PC.
KB+M support is often considered one of the main advantages of a PC and it definitely is IF you are into genres which benefit from it. I own 0 FPS and mainly play J-RPGs, Fifa, Character-Action games like Bayonetta and some 3rd person shooters here and there which are imo completely fine with a pad.
The only genre I like which benefits from KB+M are RTS which practically don't exist on consoles anyway and my average notebook can still run Rise of Nations, so I am good.
So yeah, I can definitely see the advantages of PC gaming but I have the feeling that they aren't crucial for myself.
Psycho_Mantis
Banned
1. The games. Bloodborne, Persona, FF, GT, Uncharted, Ratchet and Clank, some other jrpgs and exclusive titles. PS4 will be my only system I need since it has pretty much all the games I would ever want to play. There are a couple WiiU games I'm interested in (XCX and Smash), not enough to buy the system though. Thankfully my cousin bought one so I will just borrow his to play those games.
2. My friends will all game with me when I get a PS4. Gaming is a lot more fun with friends.
3. PC is not going to go in the living room....its at my study desk.
Its mainly 1 and 2.
2. My friends will all game with me when I get a PS4. Gaming is a lot more fun with friends.
3. PC is not going to go in the living room....its at my study desk.
Its mainly 1 and 2.
SapientWolf
Trucker Sexologist
Most of my purchases end up as little more than demos. But at Steam sale prices it doesn't bother me much. And there are always a few titles that really grab me.
Atraveller
Banned
To be perfectly honest with you, I generally only see the 'mastuh raze' claims when I come into threads such as these.
Sorry, I had to
I think we are going to need a story time here. I guess its not completely impossible to make mistakes.
SmokedMeat
Gamer™
It's not a problem at all for me because I'm happy with my decision.
And the ignorance is on your end for assuming you have an inkling of knowledge of how much research I put into the matter. I lived on Newegg, Tiger Direct, and Microcenter. Bookmarked Toms Hardware to keep reading about inexpensive builds, or comparing CPUs and GPUs. I did several "builds" on PC parts picker, read product reviews up the wazoo, and came away learning a lot more than when I started. I wasn't just browsing GAF, which I'm sure is what you assume. I was pretty obsessed about it, as I read more and more into it I grew indecisive if it was really what I wanted.
That's just how things went for me. At the end of the day we're talking about a delivery method for playing videogames. You prefer one method, and I'm happy with another.
Personally I like just being able to put the games in the system and play them without running into issues where the game does not run as it should.
For example years ago halo 1 came out for the PC. My computer was more than powerful enough to run it. Problem was the game suffering from major slowdown. I called Microsoft and they could not help. Turns out I as not the only one having a problem.
Second reason: years ago a bought $150 video card. The thing died on me in about 4 months. I returned it for a different one and that one died about 6 months later. It returned that one and got another one. That one died like 2 months later.
That was is 2003. At that point I said the hell with PC gaming and I am sticking to consoles for gaming.
For example years ago halo 1 came out for the PC. My computer was more than powerful enough to run it. Problem was the game suffering from major slowdown. I called Microsoft and they could not help. Turns out I as not the only one having a problem.
Second reason: years ago a bought $150 video card. The thing died on me in about 4 months. I returned it for a different one and that one died about 6 months later. It returned that one and got another one. That one died like 2 months later.
That was is 2003. At that point I said the hell with PC gaming and I am sticking to consoles for gaming.
Very true. Replacing RAM is a labour-intensive and dangerous procedure.
What did you do? lol
Gipsy Danger
Member
No, you didn't. There is no possible scenario I can imagine where putting some RAM in your motherboard will cause it to go on fire. I really hope this is sarcasm.
Atraveller
Banned
U wot m8
Installing RAM is pretty much the easiest step in PC building, you just...stick it in.
nkarafo
Member
The hardware is more expensive but its more powerful and the games are cheaper.
Also, things like Hyperspin and RetroArch make the PC essential, even if you don't play native games on it, at all.
Also, i understand that building a PC looks terrifying to some, however adding more RAM is as easy as something like replacing the N64 expansion pack. The hardest part is to unscrew the case and gaze at the insides (which can be scary, i know).
Also, things like Hyperspin and RetroArch make the PC essential, even if you don't play native games on it, at all.
Also, i understand that building a PC looks terrifying to some, however adding more RAM is as easy as something like replacing the N64 expansion pack. The hardest part is to unscrew the case and gaze at the insides (which can be scary, i know).
Woffls
Member
I wouldn't normally jump on new platforms as soon as possible, but my LGA775 (Yep) motherboard just died, and I think seven years between platform upgrades is pretty fair so I wanted to get on 2011-3 as soon as possible.That's why I'm waiting until early next year to build mine
I've only had to add a £120 GPU and a £90 SSD since then to keep up, and it actually played modern games really well before it died. Oh well
All that said, I would have needed at least another GPU upgrade in there somewhere for this PC to play modern games over all those years. It would have worked out more than buying a console for sure, but I used this system for so much that it would probably have been worth keeping up.
But I liked console games, controllers and my sofa. Things are very different now, of course. I had things setup perfectly before the motherboard died: HDMI running to my home theater, Xbone controller over extended USB, Steam Big Pic mode... it was pretty good for about 2 weeks ¬_¬
Sanctuary
Member
Last time I looked (which has been nine months), the Geforce Experience was practically still in beta form in terms of reliability. But yeah, for the most part the gaming side of software has become mostly automated compared to what it once was.
Atraveller
Banned
Why were there console hype threads on gaf?
sixteen-bit
Member
broke af
I just followed a guide. Took the old RAM out, put the new RAM in, making sure they were fastened in. Turn it on, smell burning. Look inside, it splutters and catches fire right next to the RAM. Guy that put a new motherboard in said I could have cracked the old one by pushing too hard. And now I'm never touching the inside of a computer again.
Yeah, I mean how can you fuck up a simple ram upgrade? And setting the thing on fire?!
Tal Shiar Agent
Banned
For first person shooters it does. Someone playing at 1080p is going to be able to see finer detail at a farther distance than someone playing at 720p. That is an advantage.
My guess is you forced them in the wrong direction, which caused the short.
nkarafo
Member
Damn. First time i ever hear something like this. Sometimes the most incredible things will happen to the most paranoid among us, only to make them more paranoid.
Is this even possible? I don't think i have ever seen a motherboard that allow you to put the RAM in the wrong direction.
Ray Wonder
Founder of the Wounded Tagless Children
That still sounds impossible, that you can crack the ram where the indent is to make it fit the opposite way.
Sanctuary
Member
This is where the ridiculous hyperbole starts. Being able make out the name brand lettering on someone's helmet or sunglasses (1080p) or not (720p) in no way is an advantage in FPS games. Don't be ridiculous. The definition is not so drastic that on one resolution you'll see a pixellated blob that might be a tree, or a person. Come on.
I mean, I'll graphics whore it up as much as I possibly can, but it has nothing to do with an advantage. At all.