Apple announces Apple Watch
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exmachina64
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Garou
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"Why would I want an iPad, my Netbook does everything better and is cheaper!!"
It seems obvious to me that a watch is a much better interface for things like checking the time, reading a text or an email, controlling iTunes, etc, compared to a cell phone.
I actually felt like the iPad was a pointless device, it kickstarted a market that no one seemed to be asking for in the first place. Smart watches are just watches that can do more, it's not a wholly new market, it's a subset of the already substantial watch market.
It's the first real step in wearable computing, but it's still a watch at its core. It selling millions wouldn't be sad to me at all. If people see a use case for it, and Apple ship a nice device, hoping it fails seems absurd to me.
I actually felt like the iPad was a pointless device, it kickstarted a market that no one seemed to be asking for in the first place. Smart watches are just watches that can do more, it's not a wholly new market, it's a subset of the already substantial watch market.
It's the first real step in wearable computing, but it's still a watch at its core. It selling millions wouldn't be sad to me at all. If people see a use case for it, and Apple ship a nice device, hoping it fails seems absurd to me.
Wish it wasn't $349 tho
This is an important element, personally paying upwards of a grand is fine for a watch that just tells the time, so I don't see it as expensive, but I think the concept of even wearing a watch is going to be foreign to many of the iPhone users, so paying a lot for it won't happen.
I liked the idea of seeing them produce a really cheap plastic model for people not wanting to spend so much on the hope of it being of value to them.
dragonfart28
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The iPhone requirement seems dumb at first, but it would have to be the case if you want to have access to an LTE network.
Other than that, it looks like Apple has another winner on their hands here.
This will spawn a bunch of imitators just like the ipod, iphone and ipad.
Other than that, it looks like Apple has another winner on their hands here.
This will spawn a bunch of imitators just like the ipod, iphone and ipad.
Does this have flash memory inside? Can I put a bunch of songs on it? Does it do a lot when my phone isn't also in my pocket?
If the ipod shuffle made into a watch turns out to have more untethered capabilities on its own than the Apple Watch which seems to need a phone for pretty much everything, that's going to be disappointing.
If the ipod shuffle made into a watch turns out to have more untethered capabilities on its own than the Apple Watch which seems to need a phone for pretty much everything, that's going to be disappointing.
Antiwhippy
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Does it even have a headphone jack?
Nope.
acheron_xl
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I think it has bluetooth?
I still want one so bad. 38mm black sport with some metal band.
I doubt its untethered capabilities is more than telling time.
During the event, Kevin Lynch, while explaining the music controls in Glances, mentioned songs ON the Apple Watch, so I think so.
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While I do wear a watch and think the Apple Pay, map directions, and Health functionality of the Apple Watch look like the best yet, I certainly won't buy first gen. Just looks a bit big, plain, and is very pricey. I'll wait till the first hardware design change at the very least.
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yeah, I mean we see yet again why Android somehow does things way sooner and is still somehow so forgettable that Apple swoops in with the right way and wins the recognition, and then competition starts after.
my mind is full of fuck if these aren't a joke.
If i took those screenshots two weeks ago and labeled them Samsung, they would get laughed out of every website around. They are ugly as sin and straight up piss poor from the icons, to the font to the information density.
Seriously, its a tiny screen that you aren't going to hold an inch from your face, there needs to be a happy medium, there is dead space in google watch that could be used sure, but thats just ridiculous.
terrible
if you told me this was fan made by a 7 year old blind kid with WordArt, i'd believe you more then i would believe this is an actual shipping screenshot from an Apple device.
ffs ... it has a GALLERY app. A gallery app... on a watch...
You know there are videos showing off the watch OS that pretty much go against everything quoted here. Seems like a good looking, simple, easy to read OS suited well for a small screen watch to me.
my mind is full of fuck if these aren't a joke.
If i took those screenshots two weeks ago and labeled them Samsung, they would get laughed out of every website around. They are ugly as sin and straight up piss poor from the icons, to the font to the information density.
Seriously, its a tiny screen that you aren't going to hold an inch from your face, there needs to be a happy medium, there is dead space in google watch that could be used sure, but thats just ridiculous.
terrible
if you told me this was fan made by a 7 year old blind kid with WordArt, i'd believe you more then i would believe this is an actual shipping screenshot from an Apple device.
ffs ... it has a GALLERY app. A gallery app... on a watch...
I don't know if you heard in the conference but Jony Ive apparently consulted with Chronos, Lord of Time, to design the Apple Watch. I think he knows what he's doing.
Here's the thing. A 350$ watch will last you many years, a 1k$ watch? Possibly a lifetime. The apple watch on the other hand will be obsolete after 2 years. So in that sense paying 350$ for it is quite expensive , especially since you need an iPhone for it to even work.
There's a few features I'd definitely be interested in.. but in the end this is simply a $349 iPhone accessory. I have no problem spending that kind of money on a high quality watch that will last 50+ years.. but we all know the apple watch will only last 2-3 years until the next best thing comes along.
I'm still tempted to buy one lol.
I'm still tempted to buy one lol.
Wolfe
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I want to be able to have Dick Tracy style phone conversations through my watch, when that day comes, I'll buy the iWatch.
Yes, because your iPad is tethered to your Netbook.
Wait what? (Jokes aside I'm actually not even sure what you're trying to say here.)
That was the most hilarious part of the video.
"We have worked closely with horological experts from around the world to help us understand the cultural and historical significance of time-keeping. And this has profoundly informed our design."
Yup its a clock.
A watch is the worst interface for reading an email. I dont' want to be scrolling and staring a t a tiny screen trying to read a long ass email I've received.
And Maps...
northead
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Thank you for posting these comparison images. 101% agree.my mind is full of fuck if these aren't a joke.
If i took those screenshots two weeks ago and labeled them Samsung, they would get laughed out of every website around. They are ugly as sin and straight up piss poor from the icons, to the font to the information density.
Seriously, its a tiny screen that you aren't going to hold an inch from your face, there needs to be a happy medium, there is dead space in google watch that could be used sure, but thats just ridiculous.
terrible
if you told me this was fan made by a 7 year old blind kid with WordArt, i'd believe you more then i would believe this is an actual shipping screenshot from an Apple device.
ffs ... it has a GALLERY app. A gallery app... on a watch...
That's atrociously bad.
And most of all it goes completely against the Human Interface design guidelines that make iOS 7+ and Yosemite shine.
Wear is perfectly in line with Material Design.
Except that's still a pretty poor argument.
That was the most hilarious part of the video.
"We have worked closely with horological experts from around the world to help us understand the cultural and historical significance of time-keeping. And this has profoundly informed our design."
Yup its a clock.
How cluttered is that?
Jesus Christ.
I think building in GPS would be challenging for battery life and size. A compromise might be to support external GPS via Bluetooth. You used to be able to do that with PDAs. Set your route via the phone before you leave, clip I a small GPS receiver to your arm and the watch will track your progress.
Well based on those shots from ars, I'm amazed at how awful the apple one is and how much I prefer the Google one.
And yet I would still see it as more user-friendly and intuitive than Google Wear.
It was less a comment on Apple doing it right and more of a comment on Google doing it so badly.
Having to scroll through playback controls? REALLY?!
Bomber Bob
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my mind is full of fuck if these aren't a joke.
If i took those screenshots two weeks ago and labeled them Samsung, they would get laughed out of every website around. They are ugly as sin and straight up piss poor from the icons, to the font to the information density.
Seriously, its a tiny screen that you aren't going to hold an inch from your face, there needs to be a happy medium, there is dead space in google watch that could be used sure, but thats just ridiculous.
terrible
if you told me this was fan made by a 7 year old blind kid with WordArt, i'd believe you more then i would believe this is an actual shipping screenshot from an Apple device.
ffs ... it has a GALLERY app. A gallery app... on a watch...
Lol is that the actual iwatch interface? Looks like android 2.0
CosmicGroinPull
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That was the most hilarious part of the video.
"We have worked closely with horological experts from around the world to help us understand the cultural and historical significance of time-keeping. And this has profoundly informed our design."
Yup its a clock.
Sheesh, marketing nowadays. What does that even mean anyway? 'We asked a bunch of watchmakers how to make a watch.' ?
FunkyMunkey
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my mind is full of fuck if these aren't a joke.
If i took those screenshots two weeks ago and labeled them Samsung, they would get laughed out of every website around. They are ugly as sin and straight up piss poor from the icons, to the font to the information density.
Seriously, its a tiny screen that you aren't going to hold an inch from your face, there needs to be a happy medium, there is dead space in google watch that could be used sure, but thats just ridiculous.
terrible
if you told me this was fan made by a 7 year old blind kid with WordArt, i'd believe you more then i would believe this is an actual shipping screenshot from an Apple device.
ffs ... it has a GALLERY app. A gallery app... on a watch...
Agreed 100%.
Apple spent three years developing the watch. I don't think they would have spent all that time on it if it wasn't the best design possible.my mind is full of fuck if these aren't a joke.
If i took those screenshots two weeks ago and labeled them Samsung, they would get laughed out of every website around. They are ugly as sin and straight up piss poor from the icons, to the font to the information density.
Seriously, its a tiny screen that you aren't going to hold an inch from your face, there needs to be a happy medium, there is dead space in google watch that could be used sure, but thats just ridiculous.
terrible
if you told me this was fan made by a 7 year old blind kid with WordArt, i'd believe you more then i would believe this is an actual shipping screenshot from an Apple device.
ffs ... it has a GALLERY app. A gallery app... on a watch...
;P
... ?! You just reemphasized my point. The writer is a guy who loves big mechanical round watches with bright intricate displays not square/rectangular digital watches with dark dank displays. It's just weird to see someone with his taste consider this thick square AppleWatch as beautiful
Well besides the fact that Apple PR chose him to attend the event and provide such access, he also writes stuff like this:
The average well-to-do person buys an iPhone 6 because it's the absolute best offering in the category in both form and function.
Pretty obvious that he's already picked a sideThe use of so much black in the UI makes me think it's oled. The display is my biggest problem with the looks.
The Sony SmartWatch 3 is about the same size, has integrated GPS, and has an alleged battery life of 2-5 days.
Now, I guarantee that number is a "reach" number while it's connected to a phone and utilizing the phone's navigation functions, but even while functioning as a standalone device, they probably could have gotten the Watch to at least last as long as the Motoactv (9 hrs. outdoors). But I'm not going to attempt to get inside an Apple product engineer's head.
jimbobsmells
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Why does he need to apply aesthetic standards for mechanical watches to the apple watch at all? He clearly is not absolutionist when it comes to that, and even states 'Im not even sure we can call it a watch'.
I enjoy and collect watches, and I can see the aesthetic appeal of this device. I don't agree it's beautiful and I wouldn't buy one myself, but as a piece of design in isolation it's a very good looking thing.
Opus Angelorum
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The benefits of a tablet over a netbook are very obvious; battery life and portability.
As someone working in IT who has seen the rise and fall of netbooks, I've never used one I thought that was either a good laptop replacement nor something I'd use over a tablet.
And in this context, neither device requires the other to function.
northead
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A million times nicer in look, but that wouldn't fix the crucial annoyances for me.
LyleLanley
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That seems to fit the circular ui of the home screen more than the square watch face.
Yep. And with Apple's control over hardware and software it would be much easier to roll out UI which works perfectly on round faces, unlike with Android Wear where they'd have to have an OS which would need to work on both square and circular screens.
The renders are obviously overly simplified but by adding the lugs to the top and the bottom, it would be trivial to have the same mechanism for swapping of the straps.
Bitmap Frogs
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Apple PR also invites to their events journos that review android phones as better than iPhones. The premise that Apple's PR only invites those who're gonna glowingly praise their products is flawed.
And someone who is aware of horological history and tradition wouldn't give a rats ass wether a watch is round or square. Only fanboys picking sides in a war tho. I think it is very telling that you believe his opinion to be tainted because he helds the iPhone in high regard. "Oh, someone likes the iPhone... he must be an indoctrinated sheeple or a for-sale celebrity!"
The agenda-driven posting in this thread is disgusting.
jimbobsmells
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Bingo.
MrCookiepants
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Looks like a child's toy.
Baldwin_the_First
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That is one ugly ass watch. Wouldn't put it on my wrist even if it was free.
GuitarAtomik
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