Destiny - Review Thread
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spacemonkeynation
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Opinions and perception. Destiny is not an MMO. It has MMO influences, but it is about as MMO-ish as Phantasy Star Online. If you're trying to compare it structurally to an MMO you are approaching it completely wrong.
Pai Pai Master
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This game is extremely far from being an MMO. If you think so, you're either not playing the game or haven't played an MMO.
The Lamonster
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regenhuber88
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The funny thing is that when the news about the lack of match making came out so many people were praising Bungie saying they made the right move :/
Sho_Nuff82
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Bungie didn't 'fix' the lack of matchmaking in Halo 3/ODST co-op until Reach came out 3 years later. The voice chat issue should be much easier to amend if that proves to be too big of an obstacle, hopefully they are taking feedback.
People will praise any design decision if it's a game they care about. Now that everyone else has to deal with it, they have to hear the complaints.
lyrick
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PSO had weapon variety, don't compare this game with PSO anymore. It missed the mark.
No. We had no idea that every mission and strike would be identical to those in the beta. I'm enjoying the game but I feel burned by Bungie and this is nowhere near my GOTY. Wolfenstein <3
The sound in this game is pretty good. I wish Bungie would stop thinking they're Nintendo and let me turn off this lame, bombastic music that kicks in all the time and ensures I can't hear where all the enemies are. If there's a god, a patch will add the ability to turn this stuff off.
Audible Phonetics
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This.
TBH this is the root of the issue. MMO fans bought this game looking at it strictly through that lens.
It seems they are the loud vocal minority who are saying the most.
You have my support.
Unfortunately sometime happen to waste time.
I know I repeat myself, but you do know people give betas the benefit of doubt. Esp with what Bungie promised for the final game.
I feel blessed that Sony credited me back the cost of the Guardian edition (90 bucks) when I called and told them that I was buying the white PS4 and it included the game. Ended up saving 10 on the game and 30 more for the DLC, which I now know I don't want.
Easy to dismiss it that way I suppose. I knew this would an FPS with MMO lite elements and I'm still having issues with it.
Is it a co-op FPS? If so it has issues pertaining to that classification
Monster Zero
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I find the sentence "It's not a MMO! It's a FPS with MMO elements" a wierd way to dismiss complaints. This game definitely has an identity crisis. It dipped It's feet in the MMO pool so people should be able to judge it based off what MMO elements it does right or wrong.
Bright-Light
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Are we looking at the same OT?
Here are the reviews scores it shows:
7/10
4.5/5
8.5/10
4/5
8/10
4.5/5
7.4/10:
9/10
9.5/10
9/10
No scores less than 7. Only 2 less than 8.
Early reviews are really positive.
Sentenza
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Piracy ruining gaming again.
bigwinnerx
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I can't even fathom people are forming final (I'm not playing this, it sucks!) opinions on this game by either reading hearsay forum posts or watching toobers. Un freaking believable.
Can a mod create a sub sub forum for people who require a support group for being butthurt by Destiny? I believe a fair amount of users are suffering mentally and emotionally to such a degree that it would be inhuman of us not to support them in this desperate time of theirs.
Regardless, purchased day one digitally and enjoying the hell out of it. Just finished a few missions on the Moon and playing a ton of Crucible and getting better.
Regardless, purchased day one digitally and enjoying the hell out of it. Just finished a few missions on the Moon and playing a ton of Crucible and getting better.
Diablohead
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I loved the beta and played it every day but I'm stuck in mixed feeling for the full game, the way the story goes, the boss battles, the constant fight waves of mobs while the ghost unlocks a door, it's rather bad.
So is his experience with the game. He's enjoying it.
Maybe don't go to a review thread if you don't want to hear criticism about your beloved game <3
Average score is 8.4 so far, which lines up with the user score average in the Destiny consensus thread. Seems like it's a vocal minority that is making a great amount of noise criticising the game and painting it as far less enjoyable than the average consensus would otherwise suggest.
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=892922&page=4
Bright-Light
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I know, thats what i was trying to point out. He said his experience of the game was at odds with the early reviews. Which it isnt when you look at the reviews.
I think its just this thread messing with everybodies perception of how the game is being received.
EventHorizon
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What, you can't have your ideas challenged or something? You realize that this is a game discussion forum right?
How is it a waste of time? Everything I've said is 100% true. Seems to me this is a cop-out because you can't handle that someone doesn't like the game that you do and your best defense is "Well its bad, but its not that bad".
crazygambit
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How do you know this? What's your source for this assertion? 'Cause casually looking at this thread would tell you otherwise.
So should there be a sub form for everyone who "enjoyed they hell out of it" so they can bask in each others praise and not have to read the negative filth being posted?
LiquidMetal14
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Reviews look great. All my friends seem to love it.
Chaos2Frozen
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Talking about the RPG elements... There's not a lot of customization to do.
3 races that don't really have any in-game consequences, factions that don't matter, 3 classes with 2 specializations each and 3/4 of their moves are essentially the same. There's some customization with additional effects or stats so there's that. Everyone can wield any weapons, and the armor given to you is the only one you wear.
I could go on but long story short, the RPG in Destiny is a victim of streamlining.
3 races that don't really have any in-game consequences, factions that don't matter, 3 classes with 2 specializations each and 3/4 of their moves are essentially the same. There's some customization with additional effects or stats so there's that. Everyone can wield any weapons, and the armor given to you is the only one you wear.
I could go on but long story short, the RPG in Destiny is a victim of streamlining.
Bright-Light
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Yeah thats certainly part of it. The problem is, it works both ways.
People are giving what sound like valid critiques, or voicing dissapointment, which leads to others claiming the Destiny is being unfairly attacked.
You could make a good claim that some are unfairly attacking Destiny, but it has become difficult for some to voice dissatisfaction with this game without it being told it is their own fault for expecting it to be better.
Hero_of_the_Day
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Exactly. Enjoyed the beta, but was hoping there would be more to the full game. There really isn't. I'm still enjoying the game, it just has a lot of problems and things like the story being non-existent can't be fixed by a patch or DLC.
Destiny is not an MMO.
Diablohead
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it would have been nice if race effected stats a little, just like other games usually do.
Audible Phonetics
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There is a consensus thread, and the early reviews all fall in line with that thinking.
There is a very loud vocal minority that is far outshining the vast majority who are enjoying the game thus far.
AngryNapkin
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It's an 8.4 3 days after release, the challenge I am seeing is what will I be doing in Destiny until December? The only thing to look forward to is competitive MP and Raids. Raids being 1 scenario.
My fear is that most everything that comes out from this point on will be DLC in small chunks as opposed to straight expansions. I don't want to be nickle and dimed every 3 months to get something new as opposed to monthly content updates for free with a large expansion coming out every year for 19.99 or something.
I just don't see where the content is, it's as if they got a solid base with great game play and a solid concept then decided on a business model like mobile phone games. (Worst case scenario)
I hope we get free content updates with some DLC thrown in (Weapons, etc.) and yearly expansions that cost whatever I'm fine with that. I just have not seen what their business model will look like. It just looks off for some reason right now, I can't understand where the game is for the amount of money and time they invested in it.
My fear is that most everything that comes out from this point on will be DLC in small chunks as opposed to straight expansions. I don't want to be nickle and dimed every 3 months to get something new as opposed to monthly content updates for free with a large expansion coming out every year for 19.99 or something.
I just don't see where the content is, it's as if they got a solid base with great game play and a solid concept then decided on a business model like mobile phone games. (Worst case scenario)
I hope we get free content updates with some DLC thrown in (Weapons, etc.) and yearly expansions that cost whatever I'm fine with that. I just have not seen what their business model will look like. It just looks off for some reason right now, I can't understand where the game is for the amount of money and time they invested in it.
Very glad I decided to hold off on picking this up at launch. With the myriad of cheaper and/or free possibilities for gaming these days, the idea that people are picking up a bare-bones shooter/MMO hybrid at $60/90 speaks to how powerful advertising is. No idea how these games have years in development to release with such features and content.
It's amusing lots of the defense for the game rests on "well I'm having fun with my friends." You can apply that same logic to near any game experience if you like. Bungie and Activision promised far more than a watered-down Halo and Borderlands and should be criticised as such.
It's amusing lots of the defense for the game rests on "well I'm having fun with my friends." You can apply that same logic to near any game experience if you like. Bungie and Activision promised far more than a watered-down Halo and Borderlands and should be criticised as such.
Audible Phonetics
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What I don't understand is why you feel that way about future expansions. IT has no basis. 2 expansions were announced before the game even dropped.
Absolutely. There are also several people in this thread criticising the game whilst not even actually owning it, including lots of questionable comparisons to Halo, which I simply disagree with. Eg the differences in quality of the AI, gunplay, encounters, arena or world design etc.
It's like the time when some people started shitting on MGS4, only for it to win GAF's 2008 GoTY twice
I wasn't this hooked on a multiplayer shooter since Halo and the original Modern Warfare. Sure, Destiny has its flaws and everyone have the right to voice their dissatisfaction, but with this much success you gotta expect a certain degree of hyperbole, especially early on. That's how the internet do.
youbastards
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That's the problem, its the little things that have been neglected or overlooked that should have been implemented, and this makes the game feel unfinished.
Audible Phonetics
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These types of blanket posts crack me up.
The "I'm glad I didn't fall into hype machine post" let me proceed to bash a game I never played.
This opinion holds NO water when scrutinized under the fact..You've never played it yet.
I guess the overflow of people in ALL the Destiny threads saying the same bloody things over and over again may need to have a single point of negative contact to converge and become something of a greater Hive mind. The problem I run into is that we run into so much negativity in almost every single thread that it becomes overbearing and draining. We shouldn't go the other direction and be all happy and rainbows and waving how great everything is always, but this Destiny backlash is to a level that is just murdering.
Really the only solution is for me to stop reading these threads at all. Which sucks when you hope to find information on the game that people want to share but is hard to do so as it is mired in what has been happening since release.
Doug Heffernan
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Me too.
Even with the free Xbox One version waiting for me, I don't know if I'll even want to play it buy the time I buy one.
geordiemp
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Agee - think this game will last me a week then back to Diablo 3 / TLOU and PVZ until COD comes out.
Don't think the DLC will sell as well as the game has
We really need a next gen Borderlands.
Anton Sugar
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Great post.
I don't understand the "ripoff" complaints.
Even if the game isn't your cup of tea, there is a lot of content in here.
10-15 single player campaign
Post-game raid content
Full multiplayer mode
How is that, in any sense, a "ripoff"?
That is a lot more content than most full price AAA shooters.
Even if you don't particularly like the game itself, it definitely has a decent amount of content.
Even if the game isn't your cup of tea, there is a lot of content in here.
10-15 single player campaign
Post-game raid content
Full multiplayer mode
How is that, in any sense, a "ripoff"?
That is a lot more content than most full price AAA shooters.
Even if you don't particularly like the game itself, it definitely has a decent amount of content.
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