breakfuss
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Here we go. I was waiting for this.
Destiny - Review Thread
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Anton Sugar
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The hell are you talking about? I am responsible for the game being overhyped? Did you even watch any of the dev or preview videos? I was scoffing at their delusions of grandeur back then--even the title of the game reeked of pretension.
The game is a disappointment to me. I didn't for a second think that it was going to be a game-changer in the genre, regardless of what Bungie wanted me to believe. But an instance-based MMO-lite shooter? Load screens for every transition in a world (really, a collection of stages) that was supposed to be explorable? The same mission format, over-and-over?
Nope.
Moreover, I was pointing out how ridiculous your example is. Comparing a 1985 2D platform game to a 2014 3D shooter? Did Nintendo make a bunch of promises that they didn't deliver on with Mario Bros?
Shame on me for believing Bungie could even come close to delivering what they promised.
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Perfect.
So it might be even lower...
It is more likely to go lower than higher tbh.
Alexanders Ghost
Banned
And spilled over into just about every game review site? lolwut? You're looking for conspiracy where there is none.
I played Diablo III day 1 and only managed to get up to Inferno Act 3 before rage quitting.
That was still better than what we're getting in Destiny now.
The thing is, Diablo III had the better foundation to be perfected with patches and an expansion pack. Destiny is more flawed at its core. It needs an entire sequel, not just a few quick fixes and "more content".
Hahahaha that's perfect.
Coffee Dog
Banned
One of the best years in a while I'd say, we have one of the best 2D platformers ever made with tropical freeze, both danganronpas, new smash bros, the best mario kart ever, bayonetta 2 is probably gonna be one of the best action games ever
but if you limit yourself to AAA games on the Sony/MS consoles this year has been godawful
But I love Halo... It's one of my favourite franchises lol.
From people like you and EventHorizon who don't even own the game you mean? By your own admission the closest you got to experiencing it was watching YouTube videos. Come on now...
what exactly did they lie about?
Joel Was Right
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Can someone please sum up GAF's reaction to this game?
I realize it's not a great comparison, just poking a little fun at people who are responding as if the game is "objectively" mediocre/bad and there's something wrong with liking it.
Also directly telling people to fuck off well get you banned, so I'll probably avoid doing that.
Congrats on your reading skills.
partyphone
Banned
and then what? why does that matter? Diablo 3 is a good game right now.
maybe Destiny will get better over the next two years but that doesn't reflect the current state of the game. and it's certainly not a given. maybe all the additional content will be as lukewarm as the base game. I'm not buying a game based entirely on promises of people who have already overhyped their product.
shinobi602
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You know what's odd? I think this is objectively the worst game Bungie has ever made.
Like damn, what happened? I'm having fun with it but it's like I'm having to cut out all the uncooked parts of a cake that wasn't in the oven long enough.
Ignore hype for a moment. Looking at the game for what it is, being 60 bucks. For some, it's fine and may be worth that, but I think we can all agree Bungie's name shouldn't be on this game for what it currently is. Outside of the story, the quesionable quality is in every facet of the game - from doing missions that are too similar to one another, to PVP's balancing, to the distribution of loot, and to the loading screens.
I'm impressed at how disappointing this game can be right out the box. This almost makes me question if the reason the whole digital upgrade exists is because Activision and Bungie expected this outcome once they delayed reviews for the game. For the folks who are disappointed who took advantage of the deal, there's no way to trade the game in for something else.
I can't wait to go back to play the game once I get off work, but I'm also concerned over the fact I'm in an endgame grind 3 days after the game is released.
Lovely game, but damn Bungie dropped the ball.
I like you as a user, so school me on what was wrong with D3 before RoS and the necessary patches. I just got D3 and I love it.
Like damn, what happened? I'm having fun with it but it's like I'm having to cut out all the uncooked parts of a cake that wasn't in the oven long enough.
Ignore hype for a moment. Looking at the game for what it is, being 60 bucks. For some, it's fine and may be worth that, but I think we can all agree Bungie's name shouldn't be on this game for what it currently is. Outside of the story, the quesionable quality is in every facet of the game - from doing missions that are too similar to one another, to PVP's balancing, to the distribution of loot, and to the loading screens.
I'm impressed at how disappointing this game can be right out the box. This almost makes me question if the reason the whole digital upgrade exists is because Activision and Bungie expected this outcome once they delayed reviews for the game. For the folks who are disappointed who took advantage of the deal, there's no way to trade the game in for something else.
I can't wait to go back to play the game once I get off work, but I'm also concerned over the fact I'm in an endgame grind 3 days after the game is released.
Lovely game, but damn Bungie dropped the ball.
I like you as a user, so school me on what was wrong with D3 before RoS and the necessary patches. I just got D3 and I love it.
Cyber Caesar
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Bungie's pedigree might have hurt reviews in the long run. Halo casts a pretty big shadow.
Destiny 2 |OT| Out of the Chief's Shadow
Destiny 2 |OT| Out of the Chief's Shadow
NullPointer
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Love and hate at the extremes, with a decent spectrum of everything else in-between.
TemplaerDude
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I was never and am not hyped for this game at all, I couldn't care less about it, it's just the only thing coming out right now so I'm interested in the reactions to it because I like video games.
Sitting there telling me that a developer or publisher cannot over hype a game is completely false. People can obviously get personally excited for anything far too much but don't try to tell me that the other end of the equation can't prod that along, that is a big load of horse shit.
Ol No Bones
Banned
I think the shooter fatigue isnt helping this game.
AllIsOneIsNone
Banned
While I seem to enjoy Destiny more than most people here, wouldn't it be funny if Call of Duty: Advanced Warfare ends up being the best shooter of the year? It honestly looks pretty good to me.
foxuzamaki
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Dont forget tropical freeze
ArkkAngel007
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Ah, I was wondering when 'fanboys' argument would rear its ugly head since we've had hype, blind hate, goal posts, too enjoyable to criticize, and every other dismissive argument.
Though, to be fair, I myself did voice concern about Arthur Gies being involved in the Polygon review for the above reason, so I'm guilty of it too.
Maybe Jeff Gerstmann can pop in here and make a drinking game out of this thread.
Black Republican
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75 is good score, i mean yeah 500m budget but if it gets into the low 60's which i heavily doubt, then that'll be a dissapointment for bungie ( not sales wise ofcourse lol)
SEGAvangelist
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We knew it was coming.
Netherscourge
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ViewtifulJC
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Didn't see this one earlier, I was curious what David Jenkins thought about it. I rather liked his Wolfenstein review. I felt like he was one of the critics who really appreciated a lot of the elements of that game I felt similarly about.
MHWilliams
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This is true and I found Destiny to be a bit boring. Well-crafted, but boring.
I didn't have any hype.
Sometimes, people just don't enjoy a game. It happens.
OverHeat
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Perfection!
Tbh, the game actually looks pretty good. Much better than I was expecting.
Many dozens of people expressed a variety of opinions ranging from bliss to profound disappointment.
Based on a lot of posts and the reviews, it isn't a stretch that some people are disappointed with Bungie. I can't base my disappointment on the gunplay and how the game feels, but the narrative being so aimless and the overall design/variety being so limited is disappointing. Halo 3 is probably my favorite single player FPS, and I can cite why that is.
I hope more game reviews come AFTER the release date.
Allows reviewers to not be given the special treatment and they can review games in the wild like consumers. This is the lowest reviewing AAA game in a long time and a lot of it has to do with reviewers not getting it like months in advance (aka special treatment which creates a clear bias in reviewing).
Also reviews coming later can easily be discerned as bull shit. I played and beat most of Destiny before many of these reviews came out... it became pretty clear which review was bull shit wasn't. Thankfully many of them were on point and I see this whole ordeal as a +1 for the industry.
Both D3 and Destiny have good game play which is the most important thing to get right. If you don't have the game play right then no amount of fixes can really fix your game.
Allows reviewers to not be given the special treatment and they can review games in the wild like consumers. This is the lowest reviewing AAA game in a long time and a lot of it has to do with reviewers not getting it like months in advance (aka special treatment which creates a clear bias in reviewing).
Also reviews coming later can easily be discerned as bull shit. I played and beat most of Destiny before many of these reviews came out... it became pretty clear which review was bull shit wasn't. Thankfully many of them were on point and I see this whole ordeal as a +1 for the industry.
Nah I would argue that Destiny is some where between vanilla D3 and current D3. Destiny still has a ton of potential and can be made a much better game through patches.
Both D3 and Destiny have good game play which is the most important thing to get right. If you don't have the game play right then no amount of fixes can really fix your game.
Bungie PR: THIS GAME IS HORSESHIT, IT'S NOTHING LIKE HALO AT ALL AND YOU'LL HATE IT. PLEASE DONT BUY THIS GAME
This is a PR company, not a politician.
And that's perfectly fine for you specifically, but you're ignoring a huge horde of people who want this game to be Halo, when it clearly had no intention in being Halo.
The Librarian
Banned
Cheers.
Yeah, agreed. OTs usually have that problem. It's really hard to criticize something when people are in hype mode and they're wanting to sit back and enjoy the game. But usually it gets better after a few days as people play the game and settle in. That's when you can usually come out with some criticisms (unless it's a universally acclaimed game...and, well, you might be stepping into a minefield).
I'm not done with the game, but one of the criticisms I totally get is how lifeless the worlds feel. Whether it be from a lack of wildlife or interesting patrol missions, there's not much to do in exploration mode besides look at the environment. This can especially be a problem when you have settings that are inherently lifeless, like the moon. And it can get especially boring, because there's nothing much to do when you want to go from point A to be point B. I'm playing the game for the first time so everything is new when it comes to exploration, but I can totally see me rarely touching exploration mode after I've done everything.
Having more interesting patrol missions was something I suggested in the closed pre-alpha. Guess there wasn't time to implement those changes.
Leafhopper
Banned
Good question. Maybe they should take a couple weeks to review it like they do MMORPGs, like Guild Wars 2 or Elders Scrolls Online was.
Too bad Bungie says its not an MMO left and right.
People keep saying "review what's in the box," but the raid unlock's a mere week from launch and is included in the cost of the game.
MMO fans, if reviewers were scoring games without even doing a raid, wouldn't you consider that extremely uninformed?
We have no idea how Destiny is going to handle in a 6-man fireteam setting, which could potentially be a huge gamechanger.
MMO fans, if reviewers were scoring games without even doing a raid, wouldn't you consider that extremely uninformed?
We have no idea how Destiny is going to handle in a 6-man fireteam setting, which could potentially be a huge gamechanger.
"Something good. Something bad. Bit of both".
Zxrophantom
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I think its perfect because its the same analogy i use with these types of games. The first often is a letdown to some but has potential and the next game improves on everything and becomes a smashing hit. Many people really disliked the first AC game but i found it decent to the point of not having a problem with AC1 at all. Also compared to how much stuff was added to AC2, yeah the first one would seem shallow in retrospect.
Ol No Bones
Banned
Yeah a lot of people feel this way. A lot of people are getting the meh feeling to. I don't think anyone would call it a bad game.
FantasticMrFoxdie
Mumber
Weirdly noticeable? Same thing happened/happening with Sunset Overdrive and Insomniac.
obviously. it can go higher too...still an unbalanced comparison.
Not a lot, although it's arguably that they implied in a number of ways that the game would have more content than it did.
As far as claims that wound up being more or less blatatly false, all I can recall off the top of my head:
-In the E3 2013 presentation, they looked at the skybox in Old Russia and said that you could explore that space.
-They once said we could go to Saturn.
-They much more recently said that "after level 20 there are a bunch of strikes that become available to you", which is false unless you consider higher difficulty levels and other basic modifiers to be newly-available strikes.
Wow.
breakfuss
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Idk though, man. As many issues as I have with it we're now hitting Shaow Fall territory. That's cold.
Same here, watched some of that stream yesterday.
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