RE6 had the opposite effect of playing Destiny before release. When people played the RE6 demo, hype was murdered. Destiny gained a lot of traction after the alpha and beta.
Destiny - Review Thread
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Chiggs
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Diablo 3 without a shadow of a doubt.
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Don't overly cinematic games usually review pretty well though? Plus it's a shooter, probably end up in the ~80 range.
kerotan_eater
Banned
bender
What time is it?
Looks neat but I'm skeptical of anything from Ubisoft.
Who cares if you are willing to eat crow? It has nothing to do with Destiny. It's like random word association.
Diablo, no question. I've been playing it since release and it's still great. Already completely done with Destiny.
ArkkAngel007
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They did one for Destiny too though. I'm not sure, but it might have been the first time we even saw Crucible.
Glad I decided last minute to wait on my digital purchase. I had fun with the Beta at first, but the experience ran thin quickly. May pick up used when it hits GameFly in the $20 range, there should be plenty of copies floating around in 6 months. Hype now fully focused on Forza Horizon 2, Halo: MCC, and Sunset Overdrive.
Night Angel
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I agree with most if the criticisms, but something about the whole package (probably the moment to moment gameplay) has me hooked. 7/10 for content/diversity, but 9/10 for fun. I'll be playing this for a while, I think.
AgentOtaku
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Cant link cause on my phone. Its up on Gamespot's youtube channel though. Just posted.
Shiera Seastar
Banned
I'd say people care about narratives, e.g. a massively hyped, marketed, long anticipated and talked about game failing to meet the expectations and bomb critically. Games that are hyped up big and turning out to be actually great are only half as interesting.
RespectThySole
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I agree.
Mobile Suit Gooch
Grundle: The Awakening
Diablo III for the rebound.
It will do nasty, wonderful things with those 500 hours.
LabouredSubterfuge
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Not even kidding nowadays Diablo 3 is a legitimately excellent game.
I honestly was wondering how long it would take until someone made that post.
DaleinCalgary
Member
Oh come on.
I think this whole backlash thing (while certainly deserved based on the Acti-Blizz's horseshit no review policy) might be going a bit overboard.
The game is still GOOD.
Freeman
Banned
If this is getting terrible reviews, how bad are the reviews of order 1886 going to be...
This has to be a joke. The obsession with The Order is just unhelpful at this point, if the game turns out to be good some people will probably start hurting themselves.
How Destiny and The Order relate is beyond me, they seem like polar opposites.
CambriaRising
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I know a guy who knows a guy.
It's okay, The Order: 1886 will be with us in February.
Weren't we just talking about new IPs and their review scores?
That's why I'm doubting low review scores. I don't buy into the whole bought reviews things, but I do think it's easy for reviewers to be somewhat biased towards certain titles and I could see IGN putting somebody that also wrote the IGNFirsts for those two games on this review.
SolidChamp
Banned
All very fair points. I am with you in that I am also more of a campaign/sp/co-op gamer, and while I think labelling it a "total disaster" is mighty harsh, I can totally agree with the criticisms that are being levelled at the campaign (shallow, repetitive, lack of a coherent, worthwhile story, etc.)
No doubt the game will be divisive, at best...but the more I play it, the more I feel like it has serious potential, so long as Bungie has only just begun to pull back the curtain on what they plan to offer in the coming months.
TastyOreoFriend
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I really hope so, cause Destiny was suppose to be my "it" game that made me change my mind about how this gen was starting off, or at least gave me something to play. Now I'm just looking for something to justify my PS4's existence, cause truth be told I've found all of 2 games I wanted to play on it since launch that I could only play on PS4. I'm glad next gen was an Xmas present.
Netherscourge
Banned
Game Over man, Game Over.
BreezyLimbo
Banned
Many will disagree with you. Yes, the mechanics are good(That is, the gunplay, the movement, the things where a player has agency).
However...beyond that. The looting system is awful. Legendary Engrams rarely give Legendary things. Having to grind factions, reputations, currencies? That's WoW level of dedication right there(Even then, it speaks that Blizzard is removing Valor/Conquest/etc. Next expansion). Having separate Crucible Marks and Vanguard marks, yet the majority of items requiring Crucible Marks to obtain, and on top of that imposing a limit of how many you can earn a week? Bungie says it's not an MMO yet treats it like an MMO.
Then there's the fact that so far it seems faster to grind PvP in order to get exotics/Legendaries than it is PvE, there is a huge dissonance in that. Why is PvE not giving out rewards that are worth doing PvE? If you're interested in the looting aspect of it, then it looks like PvP is the fastest way to get what you want(Yesterday I was in a group with friends, and someone in my party earned about 4 legendary engrams within a 45 minute span. In Comparison, I've ran the Vanguard Strike list for about 3 hours and only earned 1 Legendary Engram in the same time. Anecdote, but I'm sure I'm not alone.).
So yes, the gunplay is good. The lore? Fantastic. The art style? Solid foundation. Everything else? It can use work. Would I call it a good game? I'd call it enjoyable. But then again, I enjoy Dynasty Warriors immensely, that says of me that I enjoy the repetitive nature of games. But that also means it's just as easy to see the flaws in something.
I think we got a sequel to the 8.8 Twilight Princess review.
That game is gonna be a total disaster. It's Bloodborne month anyway.
Warm Machine
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If the game was written around an expectation if 30fps (given the cross gen origin it is likely) at best there is nothing more they can do. The assets were probably as nice as you see them on screen. As it is the game is gorgeous.
Or just give them level 100 WoW characters come Warlords of Draenor and force them to play through heroic dungeons/raids so they know the many ways boss mechanics can extend beyond "regular enemy with a ton of health".
Seriously, look at this stuff. Boss fights on trains. Interactive cannons that players need to mount in order to wither down adds. A gears-of-war style cover-to-cover dash to avoid enemy cannon fire. Why couldn't this kind of creativity gone into Destiny's Strikes? We know they had the budget for it.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=81kwxaePEO0
They're not going to be able to patch a whole new game. Final Fantasy XIV: ARR is an whole new damn game and it took them a year or so to rebuild it and I think at this point, Activision isn't going to fund a rebuilding of a game that already made it's money back
The problem is that parts of the game are great. I think most people who played at least the beta will say that the mechanics and movement are incredible. Yet people seem to think there are elements that are lackluster, like content, story and playtime, along with progression... it's taking something good, and then disappointing the player.
So a game that doesn't set it's goals/expectations too high, and then meets them is more satisfying than a game that presents itself as a MMO shooter with a great narrative and huge worlds to play in, and doesn't meet those goals is going to be seen as a bit of a failure.
This game hurt me. I can't trust AAA gaming anymore. Why Destiny? I was going to log over 500 hours in you.
Next time don't fell for the marketing hype.
SolidChamp
Banned
Don't get me wrong, I tried Halo, but I just shrugged my shoulders. I really didn't understand why it was supposed to be one of the GOAT.
To be fair, before my X360(s) kicked the bucket (4 of them), I did give in to buying Halo 3. I guess I just wanted to see what the deal was, and to try and "board dat hype train".
The first half of the campaign was actually pretty damn good...and then the game shit the bed in the third act with the stuff pertaining to the flood. Fun multiplayer though, while it lasted. Still, the whole "HALO is one of the GOAT gaming franchises" irks me a bit. I just don't get it.
I don't think Destiny is any better, or worse, than Halo.
You may now start the lynching.
ebullientprism
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Some free (meaningful) DLC would help soothe things.
Of course this is Activsion, so it will snow in hell before that.
MDSVeritas
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I'm kinda surprised at how low some of the scores have been. I think Destiny has some pretty sublime core-gameplay, and good world design pulled off. Not to mention there there's definitely a lot out there to do and it has pretty strong social features.
I definitely wish the story was much more of a focus. I tempered my expectations after not seeing much, but even then, I was holding out hope on a strong central thread. I also could have done with more relevant mission design. Still, I think it hits about an 8.5-9.0 with those complaints. Either way, seems like it's not some people's cup of tea, it's just intriguing to see a game this hyped and still well-polished get such so-so scores.
I definitely wish the story was much more of a focus. I tempered my expectations after not seeing much, but even then, I was holding out hope on a strong central thread. I also could have done with more relevant mission design. Still, I think it hits about an 8.5-9.0 with those complaints. Either way, seems like it's not some people's cup of tea, it's just intriguing to see a game this hyped and still well-polished get such so-so scores.
Far Cry 4 already looks better than Destiny
I'd also like to add that strikes dropping loot that's 2 to 3 levels lower than you is the most ridiculous thing ever. Another thing that pisses me off about the loot is that it feels like there's barely any difference between regular piece of loot and a legendary. I haven't found any exotic gear yet so maybe that'll change but I'm already getting sick of the game to be honest, and I've only put 15 hours into the game.
Netherscourge
Banned
IGN will give it a 6 or 7. I get the same vibe from their in-progress reviews as all the others.
Chiggs
Gold Member
I actually think some dlc would be able to save the game. I mean, destiny has a great gameplay foundation. Adding in some pve dungeons, areas, and stuff to explore could breath a lot of life into it.
I think one thing that could be greatly improved on are the bosses. They really need to not be bullet sponges. I mean, even when i grenade the shield away and hit bosses would headshots, it still takes a good while. :/
Destiny is a good game that could become great with some dlc.
Head.spawn
Junior Member
QA did a great job, actual gameplay is super polished. The only real glitch I came across playing it was the zone-engage AI and that might've been intentional.
ProvenDeadly
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After playing to level 13, I would give this game a solid 7.
Pros.
-Great mechanics
-Top tier graphics
-Good Sound
-Great UI
-Solid infrastructure
Cons
- Horrible writing
-Monotanous pace at times
-Poor mission design
-Occasional dumb AI
-Bullet sponge bosses
-Boring loot and armor
-Pedestrian PVP
-Repetive story implementations
-Dumb or half baked implementation of social features (no story match making, no sense of chat or community, other players randomly vanish, false sense of open world)
-They force you to watch cut scenes when they are not even remotely interesting
-Some bland planet design
-Characters are not even remotely interesting
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Pros.
-Great mechanics
-Top tier graphics
-Good Sound
-Great UI
-Solid infrastructure
Cons
- Horrible writing
-Monotanous pace at times
-Poor mission design
-Occasional dumb AI
-Bullet sponge bosses
-Boring loot and armor
-Pedestrian PVP
-Repetive story implementations
-Dumb or half baked implementation of social features (no story match making, no sense of chat or community, other players randomly vanish, false sense of open world)
-They force you to watch cut scenes when they are not even remotely interesting
-Some bland planet design
-Characters are not even remotely interesting
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Gross shipped is not even remotely close or any way resembling net profit. The messaging people quoted in that 500M shipped thread also strongly implied Activisions typical retail contracts involve them taking the lead on distribution levels. Not that that is required for the first statement to be true, but it makes the gross shipped figure an even sillier number to cite.
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