Destiny - Review Thread
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Chaos2Frozen
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That's how it is for any guild trying to figure out a new Raid- Lots of tears and harsh languages.
Bet they are watching stream and taking notes. They should. Problem is, their review isn't informing buyers anymore, it's more there for archival purposes, since I think most Destiny buyers will be people saving up or told by a friend etc.
Though IGN's review of Demon's Souls sold it to me. It got it release day in EU and I was super glad.
MortalMonkey
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Anyone on ps4 wanna party up and do the weekly strike to get the coins?
You expect a lot from reviewers, just how much do you think they get paid?
And where does it stop, NG++? NG+++? 1 end game raid? 10?
Fortinbras
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Zombie James
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"If we complete this I'm never doing this shit again." Sounds like fun!
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thepotatoman
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I have often heard various reviewers talk about it on podcasts. It does seem pretty common for developers to complain to reviewers about their bonuses, but reviewers rightfully shift blame to metacritic and the people that choose to use it for bonuses, rather than blame themselves about it.
If they feel guilty about being honest in a review, they shouldn't be reviewing games then. There should be absolutely no guilt placed on the shoulders of reviewers for things like bonuses between developers and publishers. If they want to have some arguably silly agreement based off of meeting a certain average score, that's their problem.
Then again, maybe I feel this way simply because my site isn't on Metacritic. If there is any guilt tripping going on by any of those developers or publishers against reviewers, that sounds like there is a much larger issue going on in the industry.
BenjaminBirdie
Banned
I'm sure it's been posted but it's the best thing I ever read
http://www.vg247.com/2014/09/15/destiny-review/
http://www.vg247.com/2014/09/15/destiny-review/
KiefbladeMaster
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Gameinformer's review is up.
MightyHedgehog
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Sounds like a back of the box quote if ever there was one.
I think its a tough game to review
Ingueferroque
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You are really devoted to making sure nobody is having fun, right? And judging games from streams, seems like. The premise of these raids is ridiculous to begin with, but holding them up as some sort of proof that the game could not be fun is just out there.
loaf of bread
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Is this game really that bad? I mean I'm having an enjoyable enough time I guess. Its not great but its not terrible like a lot of people are saying.
The idea that some people might enjoy something they don't is incomprehensible to some
Poodlestrike
Banned
The thing about this thread is that most of the complaints (including mine) have the unspoken subtext that the game is actually pretty fun, but it's important to address the faults.
MightyHedgehog
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Yeah, you can pretty much only hate it as much as you're given to love it. I enjoy the gunplay and many core bits of moment-to-moment gameplay, but so many of the surrounding gameplay decisions, glaring feature omissions, and ways the greater experience is structured can piss me off to no end. Very disappointing when you're coming in with great expectations. Hell, just to take a break from PvE grind, I've come to appreciate the PvP quite a bit more even if it feels like a step down from Bungie's past and the basic gist is a bit like hyperactive rats in tall mazes. Don't care for the low TTK, especially. It's better than most FPS games, but much less than other loot-based action-"RPG"s, IMO.
I must say, nothing is more fun than waiting for my single player mission to finally load, use my sparrow to get to the mission start point, kill a few guys, then get the Destiny Server message...get the message again...get sent back to the mission select screen and be forced to start it all over again. Huzzah.
A game with shooting this good will never be terrible. The problem isn't that it's not great, it's that it's so damn bland. Everything about the story, the missions, the PVP and the strikes are that they're all so bland. Cut and paste.
A game with shooting this good will never be terrible. The problem isn't that it's not great, it's that it's so damn bland. Everything about the story, the missions, the PVP and the strikes are that they're all so bland. Cut and paste.
Yeah, don't think most people are saying it's a bad game (just overhyped for some some). Metacritic is also in the 70's, not really a bad score.
Ollie Pooch
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Hoping the expansions bring a kind of middle-ground between the regular game and the super hardcore Raid stuff - just some varied boss/play mechanics and maybe some places to explore. We'll see I guess. I don't see myself doing any raids as a) I just don't have the time and b) it looks too hard to get people together for a team of 6. Regardless, sounds pretty cool.
ChosenPredator
Banned
that is a definitive quote right there...I wish someone would make raids equally as fun as they are hard to make it all worthwhile type of deal
It is a pretty great encapsulation of the forum discussion on the game
Chiggs
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What a crock.
I still remember their Star Wars Galaxy review back in 2002. 9.5.
The Librarian
Banned
You disagree with their opinion. There's nothing "crocky" about that.
Chiggs
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Well, to me there is. Do I need to include a disclaimer with every single post I make that says: this is my personal opinion.
Seems fairly obvious.
The Librarian
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Your opinion is you think their opinion on a game is wrong?
Chiggs
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Which part?
speculawyer
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I'm guessing that if you've managed to be interested enough to grind far enough to where you are able to play the raid then you will probably like the raid.
Chiggs
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The review pretty rehashes the argument about how it becomes a different experience after "many hours" of game play. I don't subscribe to that. The score also seems quite inflated, especially with their "flawed structure" header.
I also dislike this paragraph. It seems contradictory to me.
And then there is my personal bias against Game Informer. I've always found them to be soft and oh-so-cautious as to not offend the hand that feeds them.
The Librarian
Banned
This is clearly a discussion that will end up going nowhere.
Have a nice night.
I'm just having a hard time understanding your position. People, rightfully so, decry others who take issue with a reviewer who scores a game they like, or anticipating to like, lower than they want. How is what you're doing having trouble with GameInformer scoring Destiny higher than you'd like any better or different?
NullPointer
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Orignally posted in the Kotaku: "Destiny Review Scores May Cost Bungie $2.5 Million" thread, but it seems like a question better suited for the review thread:
I'm really wondering what, outside of the expansions, people assume or expect is coming down the pipe, and what, if anything, has been promised.
I'm really wondering what, outside of the expansions, people assume or expect is coming down the pipe, and what, if anything, has been promised.
The Librarian
Banned
It's not contradictory. You can enjoy a game while acknowledging its faults. Destiny's combat helps alleviate its sense of sameness to GameInformer, which is valid.
MightyHedgehog
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Chiggs, sounds like you think the text doesn't agree with the score. GI does play nice with big games, so it's not a surprising thing to see that disjointed feeling between the reasoning and the score. Just ignore the score. I do understand your bitterness over their hyped up bullshit review for Galaxies, though, so I personally get the distrust.
Poodlestrike
Banned
Well, besides the rotating PvP playlists, there is some speculation that there'll be a new free story mission before the end of September (for what it's worth
)Im wondering what is this game in a couple of month. They're isnt a lot to do right now and unless they add some cool shit this game will be dead by dec. when the first paid dlc comes out.
NullPointer
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A new story mission as in an all new scenario, and not just some bounty? Any hints at this being a regular thing?Well, besides the rotating PvP playlists, there is some speculation that there'll be a new free story mission before the end of September (for what it's worth
ALLseeingEYE
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So far, loving the game. The dialogue and story does seem a bit flat, but the gameplay is awesome so far.
What's really surprised me is the PVP though. Had some excellent matches, seems balanced and damn fun. This is one point where from my narrow view, the low 6 reviews seem a bit confounding.
Even if the game does in the end have a Mediocre campaign, if the PVP stays awesome, and the campaign stays fun, this seems like a big winner for me. Guess I'll see soon enough.
What's really surprised me is the PVP though. Had some excellent matches, seems balanced and damn fun. This is one point where from my narrow view, the low 6 reviews seem a bit confounding.
Even if the game does in the end have a Mediocre campaign, if the PVP stays awesome, and the campaign stays fun, this seems like a big winner for me. Guess I'll see soon enough.
The review pretty clearly weighs the fun of the game over the flaws in the story and structure.
Such as this quote. Bad story and narrative outweighed by good gameplay. Clearly not everyone weighs these things the same or agrees with the views. I just find it curious to find a differing view dismissed as a "crock", as if there's something clearly wrong with it, especially as it's pretty well reasoned.
Birgitte2004
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No, it can't. Part of the word origin actually means half-way/middle.
I think the problem is people like you are perfectly willing to re-define words to suit their agenda.
They said the missions are fun in their own right, but that greater variety across missions would have been nice. There's nothing contradictory there.
Birgitte2004
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How dare someone actually enjoy this game! It must be universally loathed or else!
ProvenDeadly
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NullPointer
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I'm pretty sure I both love and hate it. Or a mix of love with a nice heaping dose of disappointment and confusion.
Among my friends its a pretty mixed bag too. A lot of stuff just makes us scratch our heads - the story, the way loot works, lack of matchmaking across the board and weird communication restrictions - but man, its still been a great time whenever we're blowing stuff up, though we do lose steam with most of the boss battles. Throw in the wild expectations across the board, both for the game at day one and how it'll be months from now, I'm not surprised to see the game have so much discussion and meltdowns around it.
Forza Horizon 2 thread is ========> that way. =)
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