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[Rats Off To Ya]

It's not like Nomura has done nothing but FFXV for eight years. Since 2006, he's been somehow involved with the creation of more than a few Kingdom Hearts games, The World Ends With You, Theatrhythms, Dissidias, Type-0, Crisis Core, Advent Children movie etc.

Totally. Believe me, I'm a big Nomura fan. But eight years is eight years. And if he was indeed forced out then clearly SE had good reason to say enough is enough.

Almost there.

 

[AkIRA_22]

That actually looks amazing, hopefully it can live up to it.

 

[Acosta]

A bit bummed now I know about the Nomura news because it introduces a factor of uncertainty.

But honestly, I don't care how unreasonable it is, I want to believe, The trailer looks fantastic and it just cements the high opinion I have for the setting, characters, combat and graphic fidelity.

I need to believe this is going to be a beloved Final Fantasy. That talk about FFXV having a responsibility over the whole JRPG genre, I believe is true. And while I'm not that pessimistic about the actual state of the genre, I think that a great success of this would spark more variety and more effort in the "highest production value" category in the genre (I'm ready to accept I'm being delusional about it but I won't know for sure if it doesn't happen).

 

[Plywood]

I have faith in Tabata, he will see this through.

Then he will make Type-0 2.

 

[Beth Cyra]

Totally. Believe me, I'm a big Nomura fan. But eight years is eight years. And if he was indeed forced out then clearly SE had good reason to say enough is enough.

If your such a big fan of Nomura then why do you keep mentioning 8 years in your posts? Nomura wasn't even working on XV for a few of those because he had no team to do it with.

 

[KoopaTheCasual]

I like Nomura so the departure is really unfortunate. Much like Matsuno and Tanaka before him I can see XV being the straw that breaks the camel's back.

Well... At least his name will be with talented company if he does (which I feel he will) decide to walk after KH3 ships =\

 

[DangerMouse]

Perfect!

Tabata's good so far, so I think he can finish this well.

 

[wmlk]

A bit bummed now I know about the Nomura news because it introduces a factor of uncertainty.

But honestly, I don't care how unreasonable it is, I want to believe, The trailer looks fantastic and it just cements the high opinion I have for the setting, characters, combat and graphic fidelity.

I need to believe this is going to be a beloved Final Fantasy. That talk about FFXV having a responsibility over the whole JRPG genre, I believe is true. And while I'm not that pessimistic about the actual state of the genre, I think that a great success of this would spark more variety and more effort in the highest production values category in the genre (I'm ready to accept I'm being delusional about it but I won't know for sure if it doesn't happen).

I really hope it does inspire other genres. This game is a huge breath of fresh air for a AAA game. You look at other massive games like GTAV, Destiny, Watch_Dogs, Titanfall, etc. and seeing just how different those games are to this is kinda crazy.

 

[Phear]

Holy mother of all good and evil this was amazing. Those animations, unbelievable good!

 

[Psycho_Mantis]

HPLY FUCKJKKKKK

I fucking told you guys the open world still existed.......my god

 

[MagnaderAlpha]

I have faith in Tabata, he will see this through.

Then he will make Type-0 2.

Hell, if he does well with this, he might just be in line to direct another mainline FF game.

 

[Teknoman]

Man this has the potential to be amazing...I just hope the story, areas, and boss battles stay interesting throughout. And please have an actual item / armor shops and not just some lame online service.

 

[Daviii]

C'mon guys stella is latin for star, luna is latin for moon. Necklaces/earrings all over the place. It doesn't get any more obvious than this.

 

[ZombiePlatypus]

Fucking stunning.

It's a shame Nomura-sama isn't attached to the project anymore, but still, I said wow.

 

[jiggle]

at first I was like, looks OK wats up with the alias
then I was like, ew everyone's hair look awful esp the blonde chicken
but then they showed Stella
and I was like, omg want want want

may not be the best looking game
but sooooo much want
and most importantly
it made me not want to go back to my mobile games

 

[Kagari]

HPLY FUCKJKKKKK

I fucking told you guys the open world still existed.......my god

Who says it's open world?

 

[Rats Off To Ya]

If your such a big fan of Nomura then why do you keep mentioning 8 years in your posts? Nomura wasn't even working on XV for a few of those because he had no team to do it with.

Because I can be critical of people whose work I appreciate?

I keep mentioning eight years because that's the only concrete fact I know about this game's development. Regardless of who dropped the ball at various points throughout the timeline, the people signing the checks decided to bring somebody else in to carry it home. I'm sure mistakes were made by everybody involved with the project, but at the end of the day Nomura was in charge and the buck stops with him.

 

[HeelPower]

I really hope it does inspire other genres. This game is a huge breath of fresh air for a AAA game. You look at other massive games like GTAV, Destiny, Watch_Dogs, Titanfall, etc. and seeing just how different those games are to this is kinda crazy.

The game definitely feels like east meets west ,and the ambitious scope seems to be intact.

Shame Nomura left,however.

 

[Beth Cyra]

Because I can be critical of people whose work I appreciate?

I keep mentioning eight years because that's the only concrete fact I know about this game's development. Regardless of who dropped the ball at various points throughout the timeline, the people signing the checks decided to bring somebody else in to carry it home. I'm sure mistakes were made by everybody involved with the project, but at the end of the day Nomura was in charge and the buck stops with him.

Nomura can't code a next gen game on his own, and Nomura can't carry the buck when word comes from above Nomura that his team is being offered up to Toriyama to finish his project.

 

[Plywood]

Who says it's open world?

Linear and scripted drives to "open-ranges" awww yeah!

 

[vinnygambini]

Who says it's open world?

Aonuma

 

[jett]

The people saying last year's showing looked better graphically are crazy. Ya'll are just mixing up graphics with a more aesthetically pleasing environment.

The skin shaders, hair rendering and textures, character geometry, and overall lighting are a huge step up in the recent footage.

I immediately noticed the massive character lighting/shading/modeling upgrade. They no longer look like PS3 rejects.

 

[Famassu]

I'm just trying to figure out how the story stuff we hear in this trailer fits with past information. Somehow it doesn't quite gel with what has been shown before. Seemingly Noctis isn't even in Lucis when the supposed peace talks between Nilfheim and Lucis are going on while he was definitely there in earlier trailers. Could it be that we begin the game with Noctis leaving Lucis to see Luna/Stella, who has asked Noctis to come see her, but that is actually some kind of betrayal and while Noctis (who is supposed to be the protector of the crystal) is away, the Nilfheim army makes their move and then you have to race back to Lucis in a futile attempt to do something to stop it? That would be a bit of a change from how they were seemingly setting up the story earlier, where it seemed that Stella was at the party celebrating the peace treaty and Noctis too at the time of the invasion beginning.

 

[Mockingbird]

Hey! They didn't translate the end of the trailer correctly. They were actually apologizing for the long wait.

 

[Ganon Dragmire]

Looks like someone called Cragmire lost an avatar bet haha. If the trailer was only 6 seconds shorter he would have won lol.

Dragmire. haha glad to take the lost considering what we got. So go ahead pic an avatar of the prince for me to wear.

 

[Atram]

HPLY FUCKJKKKKK

I fucking told you guys the open world still existed.......my god

Looks more like the "open World" in Xenoblade and FFXII ( more like Xenoblade).

Big Hub Maps, accessible with your Mercedes SL.

 

[TnK]

Game changed Protags WAY BEFORE Matsuno left, years before in fact.

So that feeling had little to do with the Director leaving XII.

I see, never knew that before. As long as the initial vision makes it, that's good. Somehow, from the responses in this thread, I don't think this is the case though.

 

[Rats Off To Ya]

Nomura can't code a next gen game on his own, and Nomura can't carry the buck when word comes from above Nomura that his team is being offered up to Toriyama to finish his project.

Again, it's not all Nomura's fault. I'm just taking it on faith that SE had a good reason to replace him after the project finally got rolling.

 

[Vire]

I immediately noticed the massive character lighting/shading/modeling upgrade. They no longer look like PS3 rejects.

Those aspects definitely look improved, but I still find the E3 trailer's environments much more interesting and visually impressive.

The rocks and density of foliage are kinda lacking.

 

[Daviii]

I'm just trying to figure out how the story stuff we hear in this trailer fits with past information. Somehow it doesn't quite gel with what has been shown before. Seemingly Noctis isn't even in Lucis when the supposed peace talks between Nilfheim and Lucis are going on while he was definitely there in earlier trailers. Could it be that we begin the game with Noctis leaving Lucis to see Luna/Stella, who has asked Noctis to come see her, but that is actually some kind of betrayal and while Noctis (who is supposed to be the protector of the crystal) is away, the Nilfheim army makes their move and then you have to race back to Lucis in a futile attempt to do something to stop it? That would be a bit of a change from how they were seemingly setting up the story earlier, where it seemed that Stella was at the party celebrating the peace treaty and Noctis too at the time of the invasion beginning.

Noctis is night. Lucis is light.
Luna is moon. Stella is star.

There is definitely some pattern there. Two different universes or some weird shit like that.

 

[Psycho_Mantis]

I'm tearing up.

Spoiler

Still prefer OG Stella

Who says it's open world?

I mean like the 2D FF's. Not truly open world but people were even questioning the former.

 

[Philippo]

HOLY FUCK BEST BIRTHDAY PRESENT TO WAKE UP TO.
Shaking and crying man, SHAKING AND CRYING.

The music, the battle system, the dungeon, the MASSIVE open world, the freaking huge monsters, the interactions (both physical and verbal) between characters, their models (such a huge jump from last year, couldn't believe that those close up in the car and Stella/Luna were all in real time), the graphics of everything... This games screams masterpiece from a mile.

I feel sad for Nomura's departure, i just hope the game'll keep going forward as intended (and it looks that way).

Can't wait for the demo.

 

[Mario007]

Stella is in this dining area in the trailer.

Same chair design as well the art or tile work on the walls(or wallpaper).The TGS trailer transitions into Accordo anyway so that much is clear.



Pretty cool consistency that the trailers are showing.

My fear is that, due to the game being silent for a year, it underwent another change and what we saw at e3 last year is no longer really in the game. Thus at least the assets get recycled.

I hate how one of the biggest problems people have with the FNC story/mythology is "Oh no, I actually have to pay attention or I won't know what's going on!" RPGs are games supposedly lauded for their stories and people balk at the idea that they have to make a slight effort to keep up with things. XIII wasn't a perfect or amazing game, but I think a lot of its reception reflects negatively on the community and not the game itself.

When people complain that they don't know what "l'Cie" or "fal'Cie" mean, despite how heavily it's explained and beaten into the player over the first couple hours of XIII, I don't fault the game or its writing, I assume the person complaining is either spectacularly impatient or moderately brain-damaged.

Also, what's wrong with that line? People in a fantasy world speaking like they're in a fantasy world? Why is it that if a character speaks anywhere over a middle school English level, they're suddenly pretentious? Reminds me of "Idiocracy."

I agree with this. It's like being angry at FFVII for talking about "Mako" in the first 4-6 hours of the game. And no you did not need a datalog to understand what a fal'cie or a l'cie is.

This is also standard storytelling. You're not supposed to stop the story every 5 minutes you to explain a term or an event that the characters within the story would be familiar with.

Pretty much.Unless the enemy nation captures and restores Accordo to what it once was(unlikely scenario)


I don't know honestly.That's up for debate who that name refers to.

I really hope Stella is still in in the large role she was meant to have. I mean given her notable abscence at the e3 tailer and here I kinda doubt it though.

 

[Windom Earle]

Looks... ok I guess. Not feeling those guys at all though.

 

[wmlk]

I'm just wondering,have a lot of places and names been renamed?

Lucis might be called Insomnia now.

Stella might be called Luna now. Altissia seems like it's the new name for Accordo, as well.

The new names actually do sound better. I would welcome the change.

 

[Yoshichan]

I want to be as pretty as Noctis

 

[BlazingDarkness]

I really hope Stella is still in in the large role she was meant to have. I mean given her notable abscence at the e3 tailer and here I kinda doubt it though.

Er, what? The scene of her in this trailer is anything but 'absent', it seems pretty pivotal in fact.

 

[ArchedThunder]

I imagine they didn't promise a date at the end just incase they have to delay, but with the demo next year this game might actually come out within a year and a half!
Don't fuck this up, SE.

 

[Wishmaster92]

Has it been confirmed the game shifted to the luminous engine?

Has to be.

 

[Admiral Woofington]

So will the brand/model name of the car go full awesome and be called like ChocoBMW?

 

[Squire]

We're really jumping to alt identities and twin sisters? Call me crazy, but I think they may have just renamed her abc reworked the motif.

I'm just trying to figure out how the story stuff we hear in this trailer fits with past information. Somehow it doesn't quite gel with what has been shown before. Seemingly Noctis isn't even in Lucis when the supposed peace talks between Nilfheim and Lucis are going on while he was definitely there in earlier trailers. Could it be that we begin the game with Noctis leaving Lucis to see Luna/Stella, who has asked Noctis to come see her, but that is actually some kind of betrayal and while Noctis (who is supposed to be the protector of the crystal) is away, the Nilfheim army makes their move and then you have to race back to Lucis in a futile attempt to do something to stop it? That would be a bit of a change from how they were seemingly setting up the story earlier, where it seemed that Stella was at the party celebrating the peace treaty and Noctis too at the time of the invasion beginning.

From the screens HeelPower posted, it looks like they're going to see Stella and then the place is attacked while they're there.

 

[ZSeba]

Who says it's open world?

Its not open world? What do you mean?

 

[Famassu]

Has to be.

That was in-game? :O I thought it was pre-rendered CGI.

 

[Plywood]

Has to be.

That legit shookery when you realize it's an in-game model.

 

[ArchedThunder]

Its not open world? What do you mean?

Nomura said it was open in 2010, I would assume it hasn't changed since then.

 

[jett]

Do you guys think the cutscene with chauffeur is out and replaced by this ? Or could these two simply be parallel cinemtography in the game ?

I hope they tossed out most of the CGI and replaced with real-time cutscenes.

 

[wmlk]

Well, I just hope they are name changes. They all sound perfect.

 

[Thoraxes]

That was in-game? :O I thought it was pre-rendered CGI.

It's easy to tell because of the hair dithering and lack of clarity on the eyelashes.

 

[brickarts295]

Looks great, still have no idea how the combat system works.

Isn't it just Kingdom Hearts gameplay?

 

[Vire]

That was in-game? :O I thought it was pre-rendered CGI.

It's most likely still pre-rendered.

Modern FF games usually have three different modes of quality.

1. In-game

2. Pre-rendered cutscenes

3. CGI