Destiny |OT5| New patch out Tues., Master Rahool reportedly crying into his robes

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I truly don't get the ar and shotgun complaints... I use handcannons and don't have any trouble against either of those. Shotguns are obviously at an advantage as we get closer, that is to be expected. Fusion rifles on the other hand.... They're the noob tube of this game. Practically anyone can one shot almost any player with these things with hardly any skill requirement beyond 'aim in the general direction'.

I use an auto rifle and think they're pretty op to be honest.
 
If they said

"Ok guys, clearly we've made some mistakes here if people would rather sit in this spot for hours for loot instead of playing our game. What does that mean? Is the game too stingy with loot? (Legendary engrams not turning into legendaries) Is the content not diverse enough? (New events just being slightly modified versions
of old content) Is it the lack of communication and social encouragement if the game? Is it a combination of all three? We need to address this if this small exploit is the preferred way to play."



Instead they said "lol oh you guys (kills cave)".

Well, to be fair, they did actually address all those things in the release and they are being "fixed" sometime. They just shut down the candy shop first.
 
Sony refunded my money for this game :). Thank the heavens I was able to get rid of it.

I hope Bungie updates and patches the game for yall though. Game has some serious flaws.

Congrats. Be sure to spend it on something more fun for you. Hope my encouragement helped.

:)
 
To solve the cave problem they should make legendary engram's almost never drop off low level trash but make it more common in lv 22/24/26/28 heroic versions of missions and strikes. It seems like a much better solution.

I just don't get why they did not do this
 
I truly don't get the ar and shotgun complaints... I use handcannons and don't have any trouble against either of those. Shotguns are obviously at an advantage as we get closer, that is to be expected. Fusion rifles on the other hand.... They're the noob tube of this game. Practically anyone can one shot almost any player with these things with hardly any skill requirement beyond 'aim in the general direction'.

The problematic shotguns are the ones with range buffs, worse then the halo 1 shotgun.

Fusion rifles need a bigger kick, some of them don't aim at the sky at all when you shoot them which gives them some huige range.

Some AR's are lazer beams and need to be dropped a peg.
 
If they said

"Ok guys, clearly we've made some mistakes here if people would rather sit in this spot for hours for loot instead of playing our game. What does that mean? Is the game too stingy with loot? (Legendary engrams not turning into legendaries) Is the content not diverse enough? (New events just being slightly modified versions
of old content) Is it the lack of communication and social encouragement if the game? Is it a combination of all three? We need to address this if this small exploit is the preferred way to play."


Instead they said "lol oh you guys (kills cave)".

Then where's the hot fix for their flawed loot system? Or for that matter their flawed end game in general? I've dumped 90 hours into this game and have nothing to show for it. There's barely any unique loot, there's barely any content, and what content is there is ran into the ground by their repetitive bounties. Spending more time trying to limit your player base's options as opposed to addressing the severe issues you have is embarrassing.


The specifically said they're adjusting the Crypto AND increasing rewards for Strikes. These take more time to tune properly than it does to nerf the cave. They don't want to just put in some random higher number on these systems and push it to live and end up having it break the game by rewarding too much. They have to tweak and test internally first.
 
People asking to nerf autorifles???? A gun that actually makes you shoot and try and out gun someone? WTF? Man i'll never understand some people.
Where's the complaining for one hit kill weapons like fusion rifles? that's the main thing that needs to be nerfed.
 
Jup. I am pretty pissed right now. I will never reach 28. I dont get fucking legendary engrams at all and if I get this shit they turn out blue . I dont have a primary or a heavy that is legend but 1 exotic and 3 legendary secondarys. So gay.

Your name and your comment goes so well together.
 
You know what's more fun? Shooting bigger versions of Hydras, Fallen, Servitors, and Ogres in face for 15 minutes and getting absolutely nothing out of it. It doesn't have to be "fun" only more "fun" than the alternative. Which it was.

Pretty much... The loot tables/design for drops is broken. If people were getting adequate rewards from the game's design, they wouldn't have to sit in front of a cave shooting the same shit all day. As it stands, nothing worse than wasting time in a strike or raid or online when you can do awesome stats wise and get absolutely nothing for your trouble.
 
Took care of the remaining Queen missions I had on me. Those poor masks gone to waste ;_;

On the bright side, I got me another legendary sniper rifle from her, this time with the solar modifer. It really packed a wallop when I had to do the Gate Lord mission for the Queen. Sent those damn harpies flying back lol. And one shot from them took care of the transfer gates. Now if only I can get a Legendary ship from her.
 
People asking to nerf autorifles???? A gun that actually makes you shoot and try and out gun someone? WTF? Man i'll never understand some people.

Where's the complaining for one hit kill weapons like fusion rifles? that's the main thing that needs to be nerfed.

ARs are head and shoulders above the rest of the primaries, that's why people are complaining. Though I agree about Fusions, looking back on my last post, I thought that guy meant Pulse rifles, which I thought was odd.
 
The specifically said they're adjusting the Crypto AND increasing rewards for Strikes. These take more time to tune properly than it does to nerf the cave. They don't want to just put in some random higher number on these systems and push it to live and end up having it break the game by rewarding too much. They have to tweak and test internally first.
Please tell me how it would "break the game". Oh no, our players are getting equipment/guns that aren't horrible! The agony! What a tragedy! The best gear can only be obtained from the raid, what does it matter if anyone farm's inferior items?
 
This game is getting boring to me because I have yet to get one exotic and I am a full time senior in college so I can't just play all the time to grind. I am currently stuck at level 24. I am debating rolling a Titan just to say screw it.


How are Titans in PVP compared to Hunters? I like being able to move quickly on the battle field.
 
I'm still shocked that Bungie said they want us to play an MMO in the way they envisioned it.

Did anyone that works there ever take a look at Everquest or WoW? Some truly fun community driven things grew organically in both of those games because people played their games in a way that wasn't envisioned.

In the grand scheme of things, the loot that was dropping in the cave wasn't going to make anyone OP since the good loot is raid loot, but it gave people something to do. My buddy and I at work were running around all morning just saying "loot cave" to each other like a couple of morons because it was fun.

Thanks for telling me how to play, Bungie.
 
Maybe all these changes are Bungie's plan to try and 'urge' more people towards playing the steaming cauldron of shit that is the Crucible...

Make PvE grind so unbearable, that even the Crucible seems like a good alternative.
 
Please tell me how it would "break the game". Oh no, our players are getting equipment/guns that aren't horrible! The agony! What a tragedy! The best gear can only be obtained from the raid, what does it matter if anyone farm's inferior items?
They need the majority of the player base to slowly progress until the expansions and small events that will take place.
 
People asking to nerf autorifles???? A gun that actually makes you shoot and try and out gun someone? WTF? Man i'll never understand some people.
Where's the complaining for one hit kill weapons like fusion rifles? that's the main thing that needs to be nerfed.


Agree, wtf.
I generally feel at a disadvantage vs everyone already. I actually have to shoot/aim and fill people up.
You know...as opposed to getting one shotted by other weapons at every turn.
 
Maybe all these changes are Bungie's plan to try and 'urge' more people towards playing the steaming cauldron of shit that is the Crucible...

Make PvE grind so unbearable, that even the Crucible seems like a good alternative.

Or they could just make the whole game so unbearable that people who want to have fun end up looking elsewhere...
 
Anyone else disconnecting a bunch of times today? I'm getting error code cattle and centipede.

Just got dropped on a strike mission when we had the final boss at 1/4 health. Missing out is one thing but using all my heavy weapon ammo packs for basically nothing just pisses me off
 
I find it hilarious everyone is focusing on the cave fix and not the fact they prioritized that instead of fixing a high level raid that is the only way high level players can get to level 30.

Bungie can fuck off.

You keep saying the raid needs fixed but when people question you on WHAT exactly needs to be fixed you disappear for a few pages then post the same fucking thing again.

Look at this embarrassing collection:

They fucked up the Queen's Wrath event and focused on this shit instead of fixing the broken ass raid.

2. They focused on fixing all this loot stuff first instead OF FIXING THE FUCKING RAID!!!

YOU FUCKERS!

FIX THE FUCKING RAID BEFORE ANYTHING ELSE!!!

The fact they fixed this so quickly BUT HAVEN'T FIXED THE FUCKING RAID!!! Is a slap in the face.

Assholes.

Fuck you Bungie!
The fact that the raid is a god damn disaster of lag and glitches is laughable.

Here's a hint, when you want something to be fixed you should be detailed and clear with what you want to be fixed.

And maybe, you know, stop telling people to fuck off every sentence.
 
So If I dont want any of the queens weapons or armor, is there any point in doing the Queens wrath missions or bounties? I was doing it for shards but if I can't get those anymore from dismantling the gear then I don't see any reason to return.

I love this game but I would be lying if I said it didn't annoy the shit out of me sometimes.
 
Jup. I am pretty pissed right now. I will never reach 28. I dont get fucking legendary engrams at all and if I get this shit they turn out blue . I dont have a primary or a heavy that is legend but 1 exotic and 3 legendary secondarys. So gay.

Yeah... you may want to edit that last word.
 
You keep saying the raid needs fixed but when questioning on it you disappear for a few pages then post the same fucking thing again.

Here's a hint, when you want something to be fixed you should be detailed and clear with what you want to be fixed.

And maybe, you know, stop telling people to fuck off every sentence.

Fuck off
But seriously, you're right on the nose here.
Stuff isn't going to happen if you behave like you're 5.
 
If they said

"Ok guys, clearly we've made some mistakes here if people would rather sit in this spot for hours for loot instead of playing our game. What does that mean? Is the game too stingy with loot? (Legendary engrams not turning into legendaries) Is the content not diverse enough? (New events just being slightly modified versions
of old content) Is it the lack of communication and social encouragement if the game? Is it a combination of all three? We need to address this if this small exploit is the preferred way to play."


Instead they said "lol oh you guys (kills cave)".

Yup. It should be a big wake up call when people would rather shoot at a cave instead of doing whatever they want people to do.
 
Please tell me how it would "break the game". Oh no, our players are getting equipment/guns that aren't horrible! The agony! What a tragedy! The best gear can only be obtained from the raid, what does it matter if anyone farm's inferior items?

It's not just about having the best gear in the game. If stuff starts dropping from the skies in large amounts, then people will have an excess of everything and the progression time-table is shattered.

You may not like that you have to spend time to earn rewards but that's how this game is designed to be. So you can either adjust to it or move on to a new game.
 
I use an auto rifle and think they're pretty op to be honest.

I used an auto rifle for awhile as well. Didn't find it any more or less effective than my handcannon. Unless you're talking about the ar's that have 100% fire rate and then also a stability buff, I really think they're fine. But those stability buffs need to go on the fire rate ones. Before switching to HC, my favorite ar was a shingen with a perk to increase damage but slow fire rate.

The problematic shotguns are the ones with range buffs, worse then the halo 1 shotgun.

Fusion rifles need a bigger kick, some of them don't aim at the sky at all when you shoot them which gives them some huige range.

Some AR's are lazer beams and need to be dropped a peg.

Ah, I could agree with the range buffs on shotguns. I had forgotten some had those. Fusion rifles need more than just a kick. They're literally 1 'shot' weapons in most cases. The ammo either needs to be significantly reduced, or the damage reduced. It is simply to easy to score kills back to back to back. I've seen many people run around the entire round with just fusion rifles.
 
but you have to charge for that one, don't you? Surely not as fast as the shotgun, not the same range of course but still.

Any half decent Fusion Rifle player keeps spamming right trigger so charge stays up.

Fusion rifles don't bother me in the least. They, at least, require the user to anticipate and compensate for an opponent's distance and movement. Plus the charge up time keeps it from being fiercely spammed.

Any half decent Fusion Rifle player keeps spamming right trigger so charge stays up so they gets instant shot off when enemy comes into sight and OHK him before he can react.

Or just get one with super low charge time and you are good to go.
 
Maybe all these changes are Bungie's plan to try and 'urge' more people towards playing the steaming cauldron of shit that is the Crucible...

Make PvE grind so unbearable, that even the Crucible seems like a good alternative.

Yeah...The Crucible. Where I can AFK and have a legit shot at scoring an Exotic.
 
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