Any big game.
Sony WWS output thus far.
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Any big game.
NoMoreTrolls
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Weak. You can do better
Rogue_Ledr
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I still feel that Sony exclusives are judged WAY too harshly and MS exclusives way too leniently.
I know some will call BS on that, but I stand by my opinion. That last Halo game was a 6 or 7/10 at best and all these reviewers fell over themselves to give it 9's.
I know some will call BS on that, but I stand by my opinion. That last Halo game was a 6 or 7/10 at best and all these reviewers fell over themselves to give it 9's.
Source?
Can he?
The last few months have just been an embarrassing barrage of half-hearted attempts. The magic is gone!
Nah, reviewers have always been willing to make examples of games at launch, as proxies for whatever they feel about the system launch itself. The fangs tend to come out for launch period games when there's more attention focused on a smaller set of games. That's when you can most readily leave your mark on a platform's reception.
Jinfash
needs 2 extra inches
ghst's skills are metacritic sensitive.
LowlySmokeGuy
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I'm not going to argue. The only first party game that has interested me so far is inFamous (SS and First Light), both of which I enjoyed very much thankfully, but other than that, there isn't much else for me besides Bloodborne in 5 months. So 2 games for me in 1.5 years.
I'd say it's overall been pretty solid, especially since none of the heavy hitters have really shown up yet.
Knack is good for exactly what it was meant to be, a family friendly title kids can play on the system.
Killzone: SF has serious single player issues but the online MP is good, just not the run everywhere shootbang the majority of gamers prefer. So I guess bad on Sony for deviating from the pack?
Infamous: Second Son is the best game in the franchise and the best open world super hero game to date.
Resogun is simply amazing.
Overall I can't think of a downright BAD game they've put out in quite some time. The majority of their software lands somewhere between solidly average to great, with most falling in the "good" to "really good" categories. We just live in a time when reviewers generally really suck at their jobs.
Knack is good for exactly what it was meant to be, a family friendly title kids can play on the system.
Killzone: SF has serious single player issues but the online MP is good, just not the run everywhere shootbang the majority of gamers prefer. So I guess bad on Sony for deviating from the pack?
Infamous: Second Son is the best game in the franchise and the best open world super hero game to date.
Resogun is simply amazing.
Overall I can't think of a downright BAD game they've put out in quite some time. The majority of their software lands somewhere between solidly average to great, with most falling in the "good" to "really good" categories. We just live in a time when reviewers generally really suck at their jobs.
Bs. Shadowfall was garbage and its clear why knack got what it did. #dc with all the delays and you still get a sub par product. I enjoyed second son, but i agree its the worst in the series. All of wws games got what they deserved for reviews.
Microsoft has from day one been incredibly good at controlling the gaming press. Anyone who says or thinks otherwise is delusional. I doubt most of the gaming press thinks they are being controlled, which speaks to how well MS manages people they have direct access to, but after seeing their rabid defense of DRM-gate it's pretty clear the vast majority of the gaming press have a dog in the fight.
Really, it's the sum total of MS' foray into all consumer electronics products. The press generally love them for all sorts of reasons they'll gladly explain, just let them double check the PR memo in their inbox first, but MS can never convince consumers that they've got it all wrong for not liking MS products nearly as much as the enraptured press.
You have not played the retail version of Drive club yet.
Ingueferroque
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Man..
Driveclub came out today in the US.
Corpsepyre
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Any word from SSM lately? Are they hiring, putting out new videos of the studio and all? Seems like forever that they came out with a game even though Ascension was 2013 :/
FlamingHawk
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Lol just making up bullshit now. Also Driveclub, play the PS+ edition, if you like it buy it, if you don't then don't buy it.
Shining Sunshine
Banned
You must have missed the Tomb Raider-gate.
Acquiescence
Member
If he can then I've yet to see it. One of the mods has taken a shine to him though judging by his tag.
To Far Away Times
Member
It's neat when a system launches with a landmark game like Mario 64, SMW or Halo CE.
Ingueferroque
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Are you a fucking joke?
Unknown One
Member
There is always a reactionary thread now.
You mean well thought out arguments like this one here from the gaming press?
Yep, must have missed that.
StrongBlackVine
Banned
He is joking and he snagged you.
Hahahah, still gets me.
Guys this is just the first year. Give it time. Has there been a playstation home console that has ever disappointed in terms of games? Even last gen think about the number of GOTY awards Playstation exclusives have won both at media outlets and here in GAF. Seriously some of you guys are over reacting. Has there been any critically acclaimed game from any first party studio this gen so far apart from Nintendo?
Also why is everyone placing so much emphasis on review scores.
Also why is everyone placing so much emphasis on review scores.
BouncyFrag
Member
Low review scores of exclusives are the life blood of the console warrior. It gives their lives meaning and they live for days like this.
Yup. It has truly become a central cause for joy or sadness for some here.
MeBecomingI
Member
He is joking, but I think some some parity in his post about modern review threads, I think. Unfortunately, there seems to be a common theme slowly growing where people are starting to become so fickle that anything under 90 (well, more like high mid 80's) is not good and isn't worth buying. I've seen it so often in review threads. It is actually quite pathetic. Perspective and understanding of the review scale is so warped now. Good games are missed because it wasn't an 8 or higher. Like anything below that is just not that good at all. Which is absolutely not the case. There was a picture floating around of the "modern" review scales and it was something like 10 = Perfect, 9 = Fantastic, 8.9 to 8.0 = Great, 7.9 - 7.0 = Shit, etc, etc. I see some (not all of course) reactions in reviews threads and they read like that is the case.
Oh, who am I kidding. I'm selling my PS4 now. WWS output is awful and I don't think they can fix their sinking ship.
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I Wanna Be The Guy
U-S-A! U-S-A! U-S-A!
Thanks for proving our point. Remasters and late ports. Resogun and to a lesser extent Infamous are the only new games worth playing there. Their first party output has been shit so far. Pretty sad to see considering how strong their Vita output was in the first year. But at least LBP3 looks really good and obviously the third party and indie support is there.Posted in the other thread...
I like their output so far:
Shining Sunshine
Banned
That's actually extremely bad PR for Microsoft. Anyone with a brain knows that's full of shit.
You really think deceitful articles in Microsoft's favor is a good thing?
Because most of us grew up in a time when games were relatively comparable within the same genre and before reviewers became incredibly jaded and heavily marketed to by video game companies.
In short, once upon a time you could trust a review.
Now, well, when someone cites a lack of open world gameplay as a reason they didn't like a game (Driveclub), or a shlocky throw away single player story (Killzone:SF) while giving a far higher review and glossing over the SP entirely for other in-genre games with more popular online MP, or complaining about a lack of content in a solid 12-15 hour game with two different play throughs (Infamous) just because it isn't GTA5 levels of packed, you can see why it might cause some friction in trying to interpret what these scores are really worth.
The gaming press has lost the pulse of the average gamer. There are lots of reasons why, but not a whole lot of solutions. They've lost the content war with youtube kids while being paid like shit for a relatively thankless job. Tons of corporate marketing foot soldiers try to buy them on a fairly regular basis with some pretty adept subversion tactics. It isn't exactly surprising that people tolerating that level of abuse become incredibly fickle.
Ok.....
TheGameChanger
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I jumped the ship this console generation and I have been disappointed by Sony's output so far. For a company that is known to pump out amazing new IP's even at the end of a generation, Sony completely dropped the bomb. Besides Knack and Driveclub, neither of which interest me, they have released sequels to their existing franchises that don't even live up to the standards of those franchises according to the fans. Only thing they have released thus far that blew me away was The Last of Us Remastered.
ButchCassidy386
Neo Member
Wait, what has MS put out that is so much better than Sony has?
i'm the voice of a generation.
No, I think so much of the gaming media is so heavily invested in what MS is selling that they've lost sight of the forest for the trees.
Kuchera is just the easiest to point out. I don't think MS is actually directly paying him. I think he's been managed so well by their media relations team to where he now does this shit on his own without them even asking or necessarily wanting it.
Actually reading some Driveclub reviews is a good example of the real problem here. Very little talk about how good of a racing game it is, a lot of talk about how it isn't NEXT GEN enough or how it borrows from many other entries in the genre from days gone by. Last I checked we weren't getting any more MSR/PGR games so who really gives a fuck that DC is cribbing portions of it's gameplay from them? Is the game fun? Is the game challenging? Will the average MK8 fan enjoy it, or is it best suited to real gear heads? Maybe something in between? We don't get to hear much about that because the reviews are all busy telling us there isn't some new WOW feature in there for us. Meanwhile for those who enjoy racing games it might be the best combination of real driving gameplay and near photo-realistic visuals we've been offered yet.
TheGameChanger
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Forza Horizon 2 and Killer Instinct. They also got Titanfall, which is obviously not theirs or an exclusive but for someone who doesn't have a PC, it matters. On top of that, they got Sunset overdrive, The Master Chief collection and Project spark, all of which interest me.
Monster Zero
Junior Member
I was able to hold out on buying the ps3 for the entirety of the last gen up till the last of us, because the 1st party offerings always seems so mediocre to me, and the trend seems to be continuing with the Ps4, but I've already purchased it so....I lost on this one. I even thought I'd get more powerful 3rd party releases at least, ubisoft killing that discussion. Pretty sure Imma like the order though, I got a good vibe about the order
MatrixMan.EXE
Member
It's been mediocre at BEST. But then I don't feel Microsoft's has been much better either. Hell, this year the only 1st party game they've dropped is Kinect Sports Rivals. Next year will be far better for them AND for Sony.
I feel you all forget that we're 11 months into this new generation of systems and big blockbuster 1st party games are going to take a lot longer to make than previous generations. There'll also be a lot less of them. Remember that.
I feel you all forget that we're 11 months into this new generation of systems and big blockbuster 1st party games are going to take a lot longer to make than previous generations. There'll also be a lot less of them. Remember that.
InFamous became my favorite exclusive series of last gen. Couldn't put 1 and 2 down from beginning to end. InFamous SS I still haven't finished. I'm not sure what it is, but it's just not as good as the others. It hasn't grabbed me in the same way. It's beautiful to look at, but I'm just not having as much fun in it.
If my favorite franchise of last gen couldn't even get me locked in, not sure what chance their other offerings have.
I feel like this generation so far the quality of the first party output has been inversely proportional to the power of the console. Nintendo weakest system with best exclusives, Xbox second weakest with seemingly strong exclusives so far. Sony strongest system that just hasn't wowed anyone in their exclusives yet.
If my favorite franchise of last gen couldn't even get me locked in, not sure what chance their other offerings have.
I feel like this generation so far the quality of the first party output has been inversely proportional to the power of the console. Nintendo weakest system with best exclusives, Xbox second weakest with seemingly strong exclusives so far. Sony strongest system that just hasn't wowed anyone in their exclusives yet.