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[Hazaku]

Stop trying to make Hatsune Miku happen in the US. She's not gonna happen.

Would bomb harder than those K-pop groups tryna make it in the states.

Should be pretty entertaining to see all the reactions.

Haha. Reminds me of this http://www.asianjunkie.com/2012/01/snsd-performs-on-late-show-with-david-letterman-reactions/

 

[studyguy]

Miku already failed in the US to promote the Corrolla for Toyota.

 

[Betta Lines]

MIKU, ARE THOSE YOUR DRUMS?

LOL

 

[sonikokaruto]

i so want this to happeeeeeeen


ALL HAIL MIKU!

 

[sleepykyo]

This could rival the Madonna Letterman shows. Well, it probably won't, but it'll still be hilariously awkward.

 

[ZombiePlatypus]

What you mean is "Japanese art" style. Anime is a specific term used to reference a medium of entertainment, in this case specifically cartoons from Japan when used in English-langauge uses. Just like "manga" are comic books from Japan, or "manhwa" are comics from Korea.



She's not an anime character. Her origins aren't from anime. She wasn't made to be a character in an anime. There is, to my knowledge, no official anime of her or the other vocaloids at this point. Yes, fans and artists have done artwork of her, or made animated videos to go with some of her songs—that doesn't make her anime.

My head is seriously going to explode from this thread.

Quoted for truth and sanity right here.

The way some people are insisting to lump it all together is frankly being militantly ignorant.

 

[Necromanti]

I've always thought that Miku was awful sounding, even among vocaloids. Granted, vocaloids still have a long, long way to go to approaching sounding more natural (or at least, less...off), but I don't know the history of why Miku in particular became so popular. Prima sounds less worse on average, and I was surprised how natural it can sound (despite the glitchiness and obvious flaws when using it for something it might not be meant for).

 

[Shosai]

She's not an anime character. Her origins aren't from anime. She wasn't made to be a character in an anime. There is, to my knowledge, no official anime of her or the other vocaloids at this point. Yes, fans and artists have done artwork of her, or made animated videos to go with some of her songs—that doesn't make her anime.

My head is seriously going to explode from this thread.

You're being pedantic. Most anime characters also don't originate in anime, but in manga. But anime is defined as Japanese animation. The miku holigram that will appear on Letterman is a CG character modeled and animated by Japanese artists. The "live" Miku performer is a Japanese animation. It's anime. This is not an offensive term

 

[Pop-O-Matic]

I've always thought that Miku was awful sounding, even among vocaloids. Granted, vocaloids still have a long, long way to go to approaching sounding more natural (or at least, less...off), but I don't know the history of why Miku in particular became so popular. Prima sounds less worse on average, and I was surprised how natural it can sound (despite the glitchiness and obvious flaws when using it for something it might not be meant for).

Because cute animu girl.

 

[RurouniZel]

i so want this to happeeeeeeen


ALL HAIL MIKU!

 

[ZombiePlatypus]

You're being pedantic. Most anime characters also don't originate in anime, but in manga. But anime is defined as Japanese animation. The miku holigram that will appear on Letterman is a CG character modeled and animated by Japanese artists. The "live" Miku performer is a Japanese animation. It's anime. This is not an offensive term

No it's not. She's merely a mascot with anime-aesthetics. That's it. Until she gets an actual OVA, series, film, etc, she's nothing more.

 

[Space Medafighter X]

I don't listen to much miku stuff, but the heavy metal songs made by some the artists that use the vociloid software are pretty awesome.

http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=iyQ9dl50rII

 

[DoubledOgre]

I hope to live to see the day Miku is the halftime show at a superbowl.

 

[K.Sabot]

Please leave me alone Miku.

I'll probably watch this anyway.

 

[Shosai]

No it's not. She's merely a mascot with anime-aesthetics. That's it. Until she gets an actual OVA, series, film, etc, she's nothing more.

Uh, she's been animated plenty of times, both by fans and by various companies. Does CG not count in your mind?

 

[ZombiePlatypus]

Uh, she's been animated plenty of times, both by fans and by various companies. Does CG not count in your mind?

Are we talking music videos and commercials, or is there an actual series/movie/ova? If there is fan stuff, then at the very most she'd be doujin.

 

[Sgt.Pepper]

lmao what

 

[Nyoro SF]

What a weird thing to argue over. "Anime" has always been a general catch all term for characters and settings designed in a Japanese animation aesthetic. And it will continue to be used as such.

 

[ZombiePlatypus]

What a weird thing to argue over. "Anime" has always been a general catch all term for characters and settings designed in a Japanese animation aesthetic. And it will continue to be used as such.

Can you back this up in any way that shows you're not confusing "anime-style" with "anime"? Cause even a simple "what is anime" google search will point to the contrary of what you're saying.

 

[Shosai]

Are we talking music videos and commercials, or is there an actual series/movie/ova? If there is fan stuff, then at the very most she'd be doujin.

Those also, but she's been animated as CG for various games. Also, is there a reason why Japanese fans don't count? Are they not making "real" animations unless they get paid?

 

[Aquamarine]

Can you back this up in any way that shows you're not confusing "anime-style" with "anime"? Cause even a simple "what is anime" google search will point to the contrary of what you're saying.

Yeah.

Manga, visual novels, light novels, video games, vocaloids, and Anime can all be "Anime-styled," but you simply cannot call all of those distinct art forms "Anime."

Anime ONLY refers to Japanese-made cartoons.

 

[Oersted]

I hope to live to see the day Miku is the halftime show at a superbowl.

We got Franco and Farlane at the Oscars. Its overdue.

 

[ZombiePlatypus]

Those also, but she's been animated as CG for various games. Also, is there a reason why Japanese fans don't count? Are they not making "real" animations unless they get paid?

I'm sorry but then that's a videogame, just like animated western videogames are videogames and not cartoons. Also, if you wanna overlook the distinction between amature fan-work/self-published and professional productions you can, but the difference is always there by default. Hence the label doujinshi vs anime and manga.

 

[John Kowalski]

Those also, but she's been animated as CG for various games. Also, is there a reason why Japanese fans don't count? Are they not making "real" animations unless they get paid?

If describing her as an anime character doesn't actually tell us she has never been a character in an anime, what use is it describing her as an anime character? Her origin is extremely specific, as is her image, voice, and presence in the music scene, so why should we describe her as anything but?

 

[phoenix296]

Will watch.

lol

 

[Barrylocke]

Well it's no IA, but I'll tune in. Can't remember the last time I watched Letterman over some other night show.

Also, leaving this here. The announcement apperently happened a few weeks back, but you have to still marvel the speed of diehard fans.

 

[ODDI]

OH GOD NOOOOOO, maybe I'm not being open to these things but I just can't see this working out well unless.....

Spoiler

surprise pharell appearance

 

[Shosai]

I'm sorry but then that's a videogame, just like animated western videogames are videogames and not cartoons. Also, if you wanna overlook the distinction between amature fan-work/self-published and professional productions you can, but the difference is always there by default. Hence the label doujinshi vs anime and manga.

Videogames contain animation. CG animation is animation, Japanese CG animation is anime. You have a weird narrow view of anime that only includes 2D television productions for some reason.

If describing her as an anime character doesn't actually tell us she has never been a character in an anime, what use is it describing her as an anime character? Her origin is extremely specific, as is her image, voice, and presence in the music scene, so why should we describe her as anything but?

As has been said before, most characters in anime also have origins outside of anime

 

[Elfforkusu]

:lol, Letterman really doesn't give a crap anymore.

This is bizarre, but you have to take the bad with the good!

 

[Aquamarine]

Videogames contain animation. CG animation is animation, Japanese CG animation is anime. You have a weird narrow view of anime that only includes 2D television productions for some reason.

As long as the work is produced within the borders of Japan, and it's a cartoon (as opposed to an Interactive video game, a static visual novel, a computer program, or a digitized, static drawing), it's technically Anime.

It doesn't matter who produces it...it doesn't matter what it's for....it's technically Anime.

 

[Aliquidmeri]

I don't know anything about vocaloids, but I want to know, do the Japanese versions sound more natural than the English ones? I've listened to a couple of songs, and the japaneses ones sound a little bit artificial, but the english ones are nails-on-a-chalkboard bad. But I wouldn't recognize bad Japanese if I heard it.

 

[Charles Foster Kane]

Some people get real defensive about their anime.

 

[ZombiePlatypus]

Videogames contain animation. CG animation is animation, Japanese CG animation is anime. You have a weird narrow view of anime that only includes 2D television productions for some reason.



As has been said before, most characters in anime also have origins outside of anime

Animation =/= anime. Regardless of whether it's Japanese or not.

 

[John Kowalski]

As has been said before, most characters in anime also have origins outside of anime

Which is beside the point?

 

[Bombless]

Having seen "The End" in Paris last year, the holographic effects were fantastic. Jawdropping really. Not sure if they'll be using effects of that caliber though, I don't think his studio has enough space for all the equipment.

Is this going to be streamed anywhere?

 

[Barrylocke]

I've always thought that Miku was awful sounding, even among vocaloids. Granted, vocaloids still have a long, long way to go to approaching sounding more natural (or at least, less...off), but I don't know the history of why Miku in particular became so popular. Prima sounds less worse on average, and I was surprised how natural it can sound (despite the glitchiness and obvious flaws when using it for something it might not be meant for).

This is something I've wondered for awhile. I'm assuming it's because she was an early Vocaloid (apperently the 3rd of the japanese ones to get anthromorphized). Even with the appends, there's way better sounding Vocaloids out there, but the Miku train doesn't seem to be going anywhere.

 

[zoozilla]

I've always thought that Miku was awful sounding, even among vocaloids. Granted, vocaloids still have a long, long way to go to approaching sounding more natural (or at least, less...off), but I don't know the history of why Miku in particular became so popular. Prima sounds less worse on average, and I was surprised how natural it can sound (despite the glitchiness and obvious flaws when using it for something it might not be meant for).

Huh, that's simultaneously technically impressive and really kind of creepy. And yet kind of cool for being creepy? Sounds like a vocal sample from an Aphex Twin song singing a full song.

 

[Shosai]

Animation =/= anime. Regardless of whether it's Japanese or not.

It's actually the literal Japanese word for animation. Anime is animation of Japanese origin. That's the english-language definition. This isn't hard.

Which is beside the point?

Then why did you bring up her origin?

 

[PSYGN]

I expect to see this on r/cringe.

 

[John Kowalski]

Then why did you bring up her origin?

Because that's what she is? My first post was made because someone didn't know what Hatsune Miku actually was and was describing her as something she isn't.

The matter being argued is whether you can call her an anime character, and so far she has had nothing to do with anime whatsoever. Asuka is a manga, anime, movie, video game, and light novel character, and Hatsune Miku is just a personified voice synth and a video game character.

 

[Dresden]

This is going to be so awkward. Can't wait.

 

[Mr. Desu]

Coming from the guy with an anime avatar...
I don't want this.

 

[Shosai]

Because that's what she is? My first post was made because someone didn't know what Hatsune Miku actually was and was describing her as something she isn't.

The matter being argued is whether you can call her an anime character, and so far she has had nothing to do with anime whatsoever.

Besides being featured in several anime works. If you want to make the case that CG and fanworks don't count as Japanese animation, then by all means.

 

[ShirAhava]

Miku is more tolerable than 90% of today's current pop stars......bring it on

 

[Cow Mengde]

Miku should sing a Weird Al song.

 

[John Kowalski]

Besides being featured in several anime works. If you want to make the case that CG and fanworks don't count as Japanese animation, then by all means.

No, my argument is that none of that is canon, nor does it make her a fictional character.

 

[Nudull]

Miku will bring world peace!

 

[Heel]

Already imagining Letterman David-sama's reaction to this and laughing. Hopefully Shaffer starts zinging around on his keyboard and guffawing too.

 

[Mr. Protagonist]

What is life?

 

[Mr. Desu]

What is life?

Hatsune Miku on your TV!