If there was a newer version of the 5 we'd likely see some kind of leak, be it benchmarks or otherwise. All signs point to a Nexus 6/X phone and a Nexus 9 tablet.
Rumour: Next Google Nexus Phone Called Nexus X; 5.9" 1440p screen, 13MP, 2.7 GHz, OCT
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If there was a newer version of the 5 we'd likely see some kind of leak, be it benchmarks or otherwise. All signs point to a Nexus 6/X phone and a Nexus 9 tablet.
Vyse The Legend
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Last year, the Nexus 5 was announced in a press release on Halloween day, and it went on sale the same day. Zero fanfare.
They may do the same this time, although rumors said there would be an event mid-October.
New benchmark spotted in the wild. Doesn't give any confirmation of screen size.
http://www.phonearena.com/news/Nexu...-than-almost-any-device-on-the-market_id61415
http://www.phonearena.com/news/Nexu...-than-almost-any-device-on-the-market_id61415
Vyse The Legend
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We've seen the thing... It's 5.9.
We've seen a 5.9" device. We don't know for sure this benchmark is from the same device.
Femmeworth
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When is this damn thing getting announced. I want the Nexus 5 to go down in price. :|
northead
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Well, albeit unlikely, it's not entirely impossible that a side 5.2" Nexus will pop up eventually...
DrFaustPhD
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Indeed. There were benchmarks for a 5.2" SD805 QHD device (I think it was confirmed to be a moto thing) that popped up a while back, but it seems increasingly more likely those were bench's for the droid turbo.
But hey, there's still the Moto X as a (likely) slightly more expensive less beefy almost-nexus device... although really, if the phonearena benchmarks of the Note 4 are an accurate indication, SD805+QHD is not a meaningful performance difference against SD801+1080p
Wall Street Journal says the new Nexus phone is 5.9 inches.
http://9to5google.com/2014/10/09/ws...o5Google+(9to5+Google+-+Beyond+Good+and+Evil)
http://9to5google.com/2014/10/09/ws...o5Google+(9to5+Google+-+Beyond+Good+and+Evil)
New benchmark today all but confirms 5.9" and explains why the earlier benchmark showed 5.2".
http://www.phonearena.com/news/Moto...e-screen-size-is-questioned-no-longer_id61536
The benchmark shows 560 DPI which would mean a 5.2" screen if that were the pixel density (PPI). Problem is the DPI setting is software setting and doesn't represent the actual PPI of the device. Apparently the Nexus 5 runs with a higher DPI setting than its physical PPI. Using the same DPI/PPI ratio puts this device right at 5.9".
/tableflip
http://www.phonearena.com/news/Moto...e-screen-size-is-questioned-no-longer_id61536
The benchmark shows 560 DPI which would mean a 5.2" screen if that were the pixel density (PPI). Problem is the DPI setting is software setting and doesn't represent the actual PPI of the device. Apparently the Nexus 5 runs with a higher DPI setting than its physical PPI. Using the same DPI/PPI ratio puts this device right at 5.9".
/tableflip
Come on Google, what the hell are you doing with the size of device. All I asked was nexus 5 with latest specs, and bigger battery, but instead you give a tablet with 1440p display. I bet even 3000mAh battery is gonna suck donkey balls considering the size and resolution. Man they are doing the same mistake like they did with nexus 5 battery life.
Marion Cobretti
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I think you guys are big time underestimating the demand for a 6 inch pocket computer with stock Android.
Hopefully that price combined with the power required for that resolution don't result in something that's not optimal value that we've come to expect from the nexus line.
Hopefully that price combined with the power required for that resolution don't result in something that's not optimal value that we've come to expect from the nexus line.
ElectricKaibutsu
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I can't get over the 1440p screen. Such overkill for something that's supposed to be a phone.
I remember people saying the same thing about 1080p phone screens at first, but now it's pretty standard.
Sure, but what tangible benefits does a 1440p display deliver? How is the user experience improved?
OriginalThinking
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Not at that size. Though I still think 5.9" is too big for a phone. Nexus 5 was the sweet spot for me.
Same benefits that moving from 720p to 1080p delivered, though obviously content will again have to catch up. Why is this jump suddenly seen as overkill? We are already accustomed to phones/tablets matching, and sometimes exceeding, the resolution we used to only find in TVs/monitors.
1080p is already overkill, the resolution chase is counter-productive, extremely diminishing returns for poorer performance and battery life.
Should've ended at 720p, more than enough for phone screens.
Same thing was said about 720p. Then 1080p came; Who would ever need.. dot dot dot; Then 2k screens came... WHO IN THEIR RIGHT MIND.. dot dot dot.. then 4K screens came... I DO NOT UNDERSTAND WHY AM I YELLING ABOUT A SCREEN THAT I DO NOT NEED dot dot dot.... you fear change don't you?
ElectricKaibutsu
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Yeah, I guess you're right. At that size they can pack a big enough battery in there.
PhoneArena talks about the benefits of 1440 over 1080p, and they say it's noticeably better. If you can go higher without ruining battery life or having slowdown then why not go higher? Laptops would get better battery life with lower resolutions and would run games faster as well, but many still have very high resolution screens. You can argue it's overkill, but if it is noticeable then it's not a completely silly tradeoff to make:
http://www.phonearena.com/reviews/Samsung-Galaxy-Note-4-Review_id3812
Battery life holds up quite well:
http://www.phonearena.com/news/Surp...becomes-the-longest-lasting-QHD-phone_id61586
http://www.phonearena.com/reviews/Samsung-Galaxy-Note-4-Review_id3812
Battery life holds up quite well:
http://www.phonearena.com/news/Surp...becomes-the-longest-lasting-QHD-phone_id61586
I've read it will be ~$420 or so.
Now reading more like 750 so no idea. If it's too expensive than the note 4 becomes a better option for many as the screen and camera on the note will likely be better.
whatever77
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You can take a look at Xiaomi 4 to get an idea how much this tablet is going to cost.
The Nexus 9 is rumored to come around $400. So the Nexus 6 will probably be even more expensive.
http://www.androidauthority.com/nexus-9-price-leak-536446/
http://www.androidauthority.com/nexus-9-price-leak-536446/
Higher resolution screens require more power and more processing power to drive. This is a fact.
Yes. Agreed, which is why I mentioned the lack of slowdown in my response. The benchmarks for the Nexus 6 are still top tier. It's not a sluggish device in any way. The battery life is quite good as well, so the sacrifices are nowhere near as severe as many assumed they would be.
As the phones SOC become more powerful you can either keep status quo (1080P I assume even though people complained about that and wanted to stay at 720P) with slightly better battery life (Note 4 will almost certainly last a full day of very heavy usage, and has the low power mode which gives tons of extra time so who really needs more - given that they are so similar I'd assume the Nexus 6 should also have good battery life if Google doesn't blow it with a small battery) and have higher benchmarks which give little real world benefit. If my web browsing is slowed not by my phone, but my connection then better benchmarks don't really matter much. Reviews indicate that the screen is better due to resolution, although not dramatically so.
There are many top 1080p devices to choose from if you think the boosted resolution is a waste.
AyaisMUsikWhore
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I really want to try a Nexus tablet but, maybe it's me, the layout has always been so weird to me. Like I get that it's a unified android, but I feel the tablet version should have its own look.
Idk, if Android L performs better on the tablet as a tablet interface I will get it. If not, I'll keep my search narrowed down to the Surface and MacBook Pro.
Idk, if Android L performs better on the tablet as a tablet interface I will get it. If not, I'll keep my search narrowed down to the Surface and MacBook Pro.
rrvv
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This
Clearly Google lost the true meaning of Nexus please Program.
It supposed to be basic phone for programmer to use as base phone. Google now simply trying to chase apple fan.
Aren't most of the benefits of 64bit only realized when the system has more than 4GB RAM? I always looked at that more as future proofing rather than something that would have a benefit right away. Even the Note 4's Exynos version will be running a 64 bit capable chip, but it sounds like it will still run at 32 bit after it updates to Android L. That might be Samsung's way of keeping the 805 sales from tanking as they'd be seen as inferior, but it also might be a sign that 64 bit doesn't really matter for this level of hardware.
TouchMyBox
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Because LTE. Quallcomm's 64 bit chips aren't ready yet.
Nope. ARMv8 is a significant improvment in many spots.
brochiller
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64 bit processors have other advantages besides being able to take advantage of more memory. See the link below.
http://www.anandtech.com/show/7335/the-iphone-5s-review/4
SpookyFries
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Depending on the final outcome of this device (size, price) I may skip out and get my nexus 5 repaired. I usually do a new phone every year but dammit, the 5 has been so good to me.
I wish the camera and battery were a bit better but aside from that I can't really complain. We'll see once shamu is properly exposed
I wish the camera and battery were a bit better but aside from that I can't really complain. We'll see once shamu is properly exposed
No. Nexus 5 screen is very noticeably better than the Nexus 4 as far as sharpness goes.
I may or may not agree with you for resolution over 1080p on 5" and below devices, but getting to 6" I think an increase would be beneficial.
5.9"? I can barely deal with the 5" the Nexus 5 boasts. No pocket of mine is large enough for this. I hope this stays a rumour forever or they create an even smaller Nexus because part of me is still stuck on the feel of the older iPhone models - fit my palm so well.
At this rate, our future is looking something like:
At this rate, our future is looking something like:
Vyse The Legend
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The Nexus 9 is replacing the Nexus 10, not the Nexus 7. The Nexus 10 was also priced $400. No change here.
It's never been about being a basic phone. Quite the contrary, in fact. From the Nexus One days, it's been about having a reference device for vanilla Android on high-end, current specs at a fair price.
And, all signs point to the Nexus 6 continuing that tradition. Big phones are here to stay, and Google clearly wants developers to have a reference phone for that size with a QHD display.
As for price, we have zero idea what it will be, so it is futile to speculate.
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Yeah no. I'm pretty sure we're in the opposite phase of "let's make phones super tiny" that happened before Smartphones. Phones will settle on a usable size again once the phablet trend is over.
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