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I just love how this thread turned from showing Nathan Drake game model to this. Next time, a football thread will turn into talking about nazism !

I don't understand how this relates to my comment tbh

I was just referring to the rowdy compliments thrown at Drake's looks so maybe that fits your comment but it went over my head...

 

[the_batman]

Great looking model, doesn't look like Drake. Don't know if I like this.

it looks just like Drake, let me post that Uncharted 2 render and the U4 one up in a sec.

 

[orthodoxy1095]

There were games just as deep as TLOU before Uncharted 1. The comparison is not silly. ND made a shallow cinematic shooter and it had nothing to with limitations. That's just what they wanted to make at the time for whatever reason.

Shallow by what standards? 2013 standards? Sure, I guess so. Shallow by 2007 standards? Absolutely not.

 

[RoboPlato]

Great looking model, doesn't look like Drake. Don't know if I like this.

The thing that impressed me the most about this model is even with less stylization, it still looks exactly like Drake.

 

[Ishida]

The thing that impressed me the most about this model is even with less stylization, it still looks exactly like Drake.

Agreed. He still looks like Drake.

 

[VFX_Veteran]

Apparently we've already reached the limits of next-gen hardware and what we've seen is the limits of what we get.

Spoiler

Such silliness in this thread. Tech will only get better.

AHAHAH. You BELIEVE Ubisoft? Give me a break. You'll have to give us better evidence than that parity bullcrap.

I'll do one better. Looking forward to Evil Within? It's nowhere near an open-world experience and definitely doesn'' have as much to do in the game as AC:Unity. Surely that game can push 60fps on next-gen right? How about Dragon Age? Why is that game (which isn't open-world) only pushing 30fps too? How about Shadow of Mordor? Alien? Witcher 3? None of those games are pushing 60fps! Are all the developers idiots and just don't know how to program?

I'm not defending Ubisoft for their stupid remarks, but the game is highly prestigious in the rendering 1,000s of characters with AI, etc.. just knowing that alone would make me doubt PS4/X1 could achieve it 1080p/60fps.

 

[PLASTICA-MAN]

I don't understand how this relates to my comment tbh

I was just referring to the rowdy compliments thrown at Drake's looks so maybe that fits your comment but it went over my head...

I was referring to the WTF twist this thread went through going from showing Nathan Drake model to this useless almost bellicose discussion !

 

[RoboPlato]

I'll do one better. Looking forward to Evil Within? It's nowhere near an open-world experience and definitely doesn'' have as much to do in the game as AC:Unity. Surely that game can push 60fps on next-gen right? How about Dragon Age? Why is that game (which isn't open-world) only pushing 30fps too? How about Shadow of Mordor? Alien? Witcher 3? None of those games are pushing 60fps! Are all the developers idiots and just don't know how to program?

I'm not defending Ubisoft for their stupid remarks, but the game is highly prestigious in the rendering 1,000s of characters with AI, etc.. just knowing that alone would make me doubt PS4/X1 could achieve it 1080p/60fps.

I have no idea what your stance is with framerate. You're all over the place. On the one hand you think ND should target 30fps for Uncharted so that they can go crazy on tech but you're ripping on any other dev that doesn't go for 60.

 

[xxracerxx]

I'll do one better. Looking forward to Evil Within? It's nowhere near an open-world experience and definitely doesn'' have as much to do in the game as AC:Unity. Surely that game can push 60fps on next-gen right? How about Dragon Age? Why is that game (which isn't open-world) only pushing 30fps too? How about Shadow of Mordor? Alien? Witcher 3? None of those games are pushing 60fps! Are all the developers idiots and just don't know how to program?

I'm not defending Ubisoft for their stupid remarks, but the game is highly prestigious in the rendering 1,000s of characters with AI, etc.. just knowing that alone would make me doubt PS4/X1 could achieve it 1080p/60fps.

Developers are learning the tech, why is this so hard for you to understand?

 

[Shadow_FFVI]

I just love how this thread turned from showing Nathan Drake game model to this. Next time, a football thread will turn into talking about nazism !

Let´s face it. This discussion is going nowhere. The moving goal posts, the strawmen arguments. There is a point where it´s just better to move on.

Drake looks hot as hell though.

 

[PLASTICA-MAN]

I'll do one better. Looking forward to Evil Within? It's nowhere near an open-world experience and definitely doesn'' have as much to do in the game as AC:Unity. Surely that game can push 60fps on next-gen right? How about Dragon Age? Why is that game (which isn't open-world) only pushing 30fps too? How about Shadow of Mordor? Alien? Witcher 3? None of those games are pushing 60fps! Are all the developers idiots and just don't know how to program?

I'm not defending Ubisoft for their stupid remarks, but the game is highly prestigious in the rendering 1,000s of characters with AI, etc.. just knowing that alone would make me doubt PS4/X1 could achieve it 1080p/60fps.

And what if ND can achieve 1080p/60 FPS with even better graphics than the E3 reveal (like they promised). Will you eat your own words?

 

[VFX_Veteran]

I was referring to the WTF twist this thread went through going from showing Nathan Drake model to this useless almost bellicose discussion !

How about not shitting on other developers to make ND look like the superior one and the discussion won't be so belligerent?

 

[GribbleGrunger]

I'll do one better. Looking forward to Evil Within? It's nowhere near an open-world experience and definitely doesn'' have as much to do in the game as AC:Unity. Surely that game can push 60fps on next-gen right? How about Dragon Age? Why is that game (which isn't open-world) only pushing 30fps too? How about Shadow of Mordor? Alien? Witcher 3? None of those games are pushing 60fps! Are all the developers idiots and just don't know how to program?

I'm not defending Ubisoft for their stupid remarks, but the game is highly prestigious in the rendering 1,000s of characters with AI, etc.. just knowing that alone would make me doubt PS4/X1 could achieve it 1080p/60fps.

No, they're all cross gen and all first generation games (with the exception of AC:U) which is open world with hundreds of characters on the screen at once. Uncharted won't be open world with hundreds of characters on the screen at once and it's from a highly acclaimed first party studio that work with the ICE team.

 

[Ratrat]

Shallow by what standards? 2013 standards? Sure, I guess so. Shallow by 2007 standards? Absolutely not.

The platforming is watered down compared to classic Tomb Raider or Prince of Persia games and the shooting wasn't really on par with other tps' before it. But perhaps I'm being too harsh. It just has not aged well at all.

 

[orthodoxy1095]

I'll do one better. Looking forward to Evil Within? It's nowhere near an open-world experience and definitely doesn'' have as much to do in the game as AC:Unity. Surely that game can push 60fps on next-gen right? How about Dragon Age? Why is that game (which isn't open-world) only pushing 30fps too? How about Shadow of Mordor? Alien? Witcher 3? None of those games are pushing 60fps! Are all the developers idiots and just don't know how to program?

I'm not defending Ubisoft for their stupid remarks, but the game is highly prestigious in the rendering 1,000s of characters with AI, etc.. just knowing that alone would make me doubt PS4/X1 could achieve it 1080p/60fps.

We're in the first year, going into the second year of the development life of the next-gen consoles. What part about "leaning how to optimize the tech" do you not understand?

 

[VFX_Veteran]

And what if ND can achieve 1080p/60 FPS with even better graphics than the E3 reveal (like they promised). Will you eat your own words?

Yeap.. as long as they give a talk (which I'll attend) on how their graphics engine does more than all the others out today.

 

[Buckethead]

I think the formula will be changed up a bit. We'll still get the high octane moments of Uncharted but we'll likely get stealth added and more interesting layers of characterisation, story telling and social commentary.

I'm sure the story will be on point, my concern is gameplay.

That's what I found so compelling about TLOU. The gameplay drove the story and was a hell of a lot of fun to play to boot. You could play it a bunch of different ways and had a good amount of depth.

So either they duplicate certain things from TLOU and degrade both experiences, try to do something Uncharted-specific, or keep it relatively the same. I guess the other option is dramatically change it but I doubt that's the case.

 

[DOWN]

I was referring to the WTF twist this thread went through going from showing Nathan Drake model to this useless almost bellicose discussion !

Ah, I guess I fall in the useless category on that one. I think Drake looks rad now instead of his semi-cartoon CGI look. I was amused by how much his looks left an impression on the thread.

Drake looks hot as hell though.

That's all I meant basically

 

[xxracerxx]

Yeap.. as long as they give a talk (which I'll attend) on how their graphics engine does more than all the others out today.

 

[VFX_Veteran]

We're in the first year, going into the second year of the development life of the next-gen consoles. What part about "leaning how to optimize the tech" do you not understand?

Let's just keep count on how many games are 1080p/60fps for the year 2015.. ok?

I'll leave you with one of the greatest minds in gaming concerning next-gen:

http://www.tomshardware.com/news/30fps-John-Carmack-Next-Generation-Console-Framerate,19864.html

 

[GribbleGrunger]

I'm sure the story will be on point, my concern is gameplay.

That's what I found so compelling about TLOU. The gameplay drove the story and was a hell of a lot of fun to play to boot. You could play it a bunch of different ways and had a good amount of depth.

So either they duplicate certain things from TLOU and degrade both experiences, try to do something Uncharted-specific, or keep it relatively the same. I guess the other option is dramatically change it but I doubt that's the case.

I can see many scenarios in 1/2/3 that would lend themselves to a more TLOU approach. I tried to stealth all three games but failed. I trust this ND team to make the right compromises while maintaining what makes Uncharted unique. The main thing for me is they concentrate on the game in this order (this won't be popular): Character, story, gameplay. That's the order of construction, not an order of preference. Get the first two right and the gameplay is improved because it has context and meaning.

 

[PLASTICA-MAN]

I think Drake looks rad now instead of his semi-cartoon CGI look. I was amused by how much his looks left an impression on the thread.

Yep I do agree. he looks more human and natural now. Call it TLOU effect (ditching cartoony kiddy like looks from the old Uncharted games).

 

[orthodoxy1095]

Let's just keep count on how many games are 1080p/60fps for the year 2015.. ok?

I'll leave you with one of the greatest minds in gaming concerning next-gen:

http://www.tomshardware.com/news/30fps-John-Carmack-Next-Generation-Console-Framerate,19864.html

I guess I'm confused. Why the hell do I care what John Carmack said about next-gen consoles in 2012? You know, before the console was even out?

 

[PLASTICA-MAN]

Let's just keep count on how many games are 1080p/60fps for the year 2015.. ok?

I'll leave you with one of the greatest minds in gaming concerning next-gen:

http://www.tomshardware.com/news/30fps-John-Carmack-Next-Generation-Console-Framerate,19864.html

Wasn't Carmack also the one who said at the start of the last-gen that PS3 architecture is horrible compared to xbox 360 and that it will never beat the 360 in terms of graphics?

Look what happened after...

 

[DemonCleaner]

I'll do one better. Looking forward to Evil Within? It's nowhere near an open-world experience and definitely doesn'' have as much to do in the game as AC:Unity. Surely that game can push 60fps on next-gen right? How about Dragon Age? Why is that game (which isn't open-world) only pushing 30fps too? How about Shadow of Mordor? Alien? Witcher 3? None of those games are pushing 60fps! Are all the developers idiots and just don't know how to program?

with exception of W3 and AC all of the mentioned use non-inhouse middleware to realize their games. so they basically have not much to do with feature implementation and optimization. even if they were not (like w3), in multiplatform development they still had to subject to the rules of economics while developing, what makes highly specialized and optimized features not feasible.

 

[shinobi602]

Let's just keep count on how many games are 1080p/60fps for the year 2015.. ok?

I'll leave you with one of the greatest minds in gaming concerning next-gen:

http://www.tomshardware.com/news/30fps-John-Carmack-Next-Generation-Console-Framerate,19864.html

Who the hell cares how many are 60fps? Games will continue to look better from here on out. It doesn't take rocket science, just at every previous generation, regardless of how "streamlined" and simple the architectures are in these machines. It's so outlandish to think they're 'maxed out' already. Every developer I talk to that's working on a game for these systems has told me they learn something new almost every week.

 

[DemonCleaner]

Let's just keep count on how many games are 1080p/60fps for the year 2015.. ok?

I'll leave you with one of the greatest minds in gaming concerning next-gen:

http://www.tomshardware.com/news/30fps-John-Carmack-Next-Generation-Console-Framerate,19864.html

let me remind you, that this great man also said, that you can squeeze out twice the equivalent perfomance of pc development when you code to the metal on consoles.

 

[DOWN]

Who the hell cares how many are 60fps? Games will continue to look better from here on out. It doesn't take rocket science, just at every previous generation, regardless of how "streamlined" and simple the architectures are in these machines. It's so outlandish to think they're 'maxed out' already. Every developer I talk to that's working on a game for these systems has told me they learn something new almost every week.

Yep. There's a good reason The Last of Us looks so great as a 2013 PS3 game compared to golden child Uncharted 2. They get more out of these systems over time, not less.

let me remind you, that this great man also said, that you can squeeze out twice the equivalent perfomance of pc development when you code to the metal on consoles.

The head of 4A behind the Metro games said that too.

 

[GravityInsanity]

Anyway.. UC4 will use TLOU graphics engine (which is dated btw) so I don't expect mind-boggling technology. ND has always had talented artists though -- able to make low-end tech look really good. But that doesn't mean they are the leaders in graphics technology.

Hasn't this been debunked months ago already.
http://forum.beyond3d.com/showpost.php?p=1854335&postcount=265

 

[dreamfall]

He looks older, and more weary.

I love it.

 

[Korezo]

Here I thought Polyphony Digital were the miracle working god devs when it came to graphics tech. But Naughty Dog is good to, I can see that lvl of quality being ingame and 60fps when its a game from them.

 

[Hedge]

He looks sort of waxy, I guess. Impressive model, but he isn't exactly a looker by any standard.
I never played an uncharted game, so I can't comment on how true to form the new model is.

Is the purpose of the model education only?

 

[dex3108]

Honestly i don't like it, also i don't like dark atmosphere they are pushing. I loved Uncharted because it is colorful game with cartoonish look and interesting characters with great sense of humor.

 

[DOWN]

Honestly i don't like it, also i don't like dark atmosphere they are pushing. I loved Uncharted because it is colorful game with cartoonish look and interesting characters with great sense of humor.

They already said they aren't going dark like TLOU and want the lightness of Uncharted to remain intact and distinct from the darker tone of TLOU. http://www.ign.com/articles/2014/08/04/naughty-dog-uncharted-4-will-be-a-light-hearted-romp

 

[bigboss370]

stop entertaining the troll guys. its not his first rodeo

 

[dex3108]

They already said they aren't going dark like TLOU and want the lightness of Uncharted to remain intact and distinct from the darker tone of TLOU. http://www.ign.com/articles/2014/08/04/naughty-dog-uncharted-4-will-be-a-light-hearted-romp

We will see but every image from U4 had way darker look than before. I also think that U4 doesn't need hyperrealistic characters.

 

[A-V-B]

another gif just because.

From the side, he's part Liam Neeson.

So our formula is

Nathan Fillion + Pedro Pascal + Liam Neeson + Nolan North = Nathan Drake

 

[TrumanBurbank]

Really hope Drake dies so that we actually get a proper ending and some closure. Because if he lives, some studio(maybe even ND) will make Uncharted 5,6,7,8,9 etc. down the line.

 

[RiverBed]

No show till E3 2015?

 

[stryke]

I also think that U4 doesn't need hyperelastic characters.

I don't know, I prefer my characters to be pretty stretchy.

 

[bigboss370]

Really hope Drake dies so that we actually get a proper ending and some closure. Because if he lives, some studio(maybe even ND) will make Uncharted 5,6,7,8,9 etc. down the line.

he doesn't need to die to get a proper ending/closure.

 

[televator]

From the side, he's part Liam Neeson.

So our formula is

Nathan Fillion + Pedro Pascal + Liam Neeson + Nolan North = Nathan Drake

= Too much man

 

[foxbeldin]

From the side, he's part Liam Neeson.

So our formula is

Nathan Fillion + Pedro Pascal + Liam Neeson + Nolan North = Nathan Drake

Don't forget Jean Dujardin.

 

[dex3108]

I don't know, I prefer my characters to be pretty stretchy.

Damn you autocorrect

 

[bigboss370]

i just want to say

Elena > Chloe

/truthbomb

 

[DOWN]

From the side, he's part Liam Neeson.

So our formula is

Nathan Fillion + Pedro Pascal + Liam Neeson + Nolan North = Nathan Drake

Don't forget Jean Dujardin.

A dash of Gerard Butler too

Always remind me to Gerard Butler

We will see but every image from U4 had way darker look than before. I also think that U4 doesn't need hyperrealistic characters.

The U2 and U3 teasers were also very grim. Plus, this one is the last act potentially. Doesn't mean there can't be a lot of humor, but I'm sure this is one that is important and heartfelt.

 

[UrbanRats]

Looks great.
Put me in the camp of those that would like an HD collection at 1080p/60fps of Uncharted 1, 2 and 3.

 

[Replicant]

What's the male version of milf?

DILF

 

[LegendofDragoonLives]

No fucking way it looks this good and will be 60fps. It can't. It looks too good.

 

[bigboss370]

Uncharted 1-3 remasters would take away resources from ND. I'm not sure how cost effective it would be for them to do that.

It also might fatigue people on the brand just before U4 drops. Whereas otherwise Uncharted 4 will fill the void of not having an uncharted game for 4 whole years, making its impact all the more robust.