……forgetit
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Cause I played the game and someone on there side tried to kill him first in every game.
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Cause I played the game and someone on there side tried to kill him first in every game.
ToyMachine228
Member
His bulbous nose is all I can focus on.
I just laughed really loud. Completely unexpected lol.
……forgetit
Member
Walk into a military base with a weapon. Oh my gosh, the soldiers may actually shoot first as well, because you shouldn't be there in the first place.
Try to put your weapon away. What? You can't? Well that's the issue then I guess.
The original Tomb Raider has just a few human people in it. Even better - in Anniversary Lara kills 1? person in total?! And it actually has an impact on her. That's how it should be done.
Forget about the shoot-bang Unchartedraider from Crystal Mass-Murder Dynamics.
Red Chocobo
Banned
Military base? Have you ever played any Uncharted games?
Most of the enemies are Mercs. Hired guns.
I thought we were having a discussion about the genocidal sociopath Nathan Drake, not my game tastes.
……forgetit
Member
Dude, come on. First of all you're in the flipping jungle in the first one, second did everyone forget that he tried to do the heist without killing in Uncharted 2 and got pissed when the other guy had a gun?
They were taking things in a darker direction in part 3 where they covering his origins and upbringing but I think it conflicted too much with the matinee, popcorn vibe. So I don't think it worked too well. It thought the story in part 3 was easily the weakest thing. They need to chose which way they want to go and stick with it. They either tell a dark, brooding story or they keep things a light-hearted romp. They would have to be very skilful to weave the two. But in either of these scenarios I don't think we need to see the big: "Nathan Drake, you are a mass-murderer. You should be ashamed!" *audience gasps*
It's an example that people may shoot you in case you are where you shouldn't and you are carrying a weapon. Just look at US for christ's sake. In US it's even enough to get shot when carrying a toy gun in a toy store.
Also let's just assume that for example the first "enemies" in Uncharted 1 just attacked, because they assumed that Drake was a bad guy. Or even let's assume those few were actual bad guys. The remaining 1500 people may have actually seen this and are in fact defending themselves from the mass murdering American psychopath that is Drake.
SirMossyBloke
Member
Its because when you walk up to them they always shoot first.
Edit: beaten like an innocent enemy in uncharted.
Normally I don't even bother replying to people who use semi-derogatory terms like "shootbang" or "dudebro" or "brown and grey", but I'll ask you this. If these games bother you so much, then why waste your time on them, or did you not play them?
I have no problem with this. You folks take video games stories far too seriously. Perhaps you should read a decent book or watch a movie. Yes Uncharted is quite focuses with its cinematic style but all in all its still a game. Next thing I'm going to hear is Mario is such a douchbag for stomping on innocent turtles walking around minding their own business.
……forgetit
Member
The fuck does that have to do with Uncharted?
Have you posted similar arguments in Ass Creed / GTA / etc threads, or do you just focus on Uncharted, like everyone?
Red Chocobo
Banned
You are comparing a videogame to real life. This is your problem.
It's a fictional shooting game with magic, monsters, and action-movie tropes. Not a social commentary.
Acquiescence
Member
Run around unarmed in an Uncharted game and see how far you get.
That wasn't a serious post, someone brought up Mario and I thought I'd join in on the fun. My reply to you earlier using Indiana Jones as an example was serious though.
It's not even a debate for me, and this excellent post that mirrors my exact thoughts says it better than I could...
Uncharted knows what it is, a light-hearted adventure romp influenced by Saturday morning serials, and it doesn't really aspire to be much else, nor should it.
Maybe Drake should call the local authorities when he hears shots and let them settle the matter. Of course, they might arrest him too for outstanding murder warrants.
……forgetit
Member
Hey, you're the one who admitted that you don't have a problem, you just dislike uncharted.
Maybe some of the guys in Uncharted have toy guns. Too bad you'll never know because you just brutally murder them instead of opening a dialogue.
I actually played some of them. It started to really bother me when Drake was actually making fun of breaking necks in Uncharted 2. The more you think about it, the more you notice how fucked up Drake actually is.
ProfessorMoran
Member
The military base shouldn't be there in the first place, it's not Drake's fault they decided to camp there, if they were camping somewhere else, Drake wouldn't be forced to kill them all in self defence.
Acquiescence
Member
Sounds like a fun game that would sell 8+ millions of copies.
You never know. Gone Home was a popular game where you wander around your house and peek into your family's personal life like a weirdo.
Acquiescence
Member
Gone Home was worked on by four people and had a smidgen of the budget that your average Uncharted does. A ridiculous comparison.
shinra-bansho
Member
I thought this thread was supposed to be about Drake's smouldering eyes.
Sounds like these types of games just really aren't your thing. If you look around, you'll notice this is prevalent is the majority of action games and movies. Maybe if you check out some other examples or games that you do like that you didn't notice this in, then Uncharted will bother you less.
The response is also assuming I'm being 100% serious and sincere in my responses. Which I am. Of course. I really want Nathan Drake to call the cops in a video game.
They receive a stipend for making a innocent person murder simulator? Sony should be brought to court.
Omnipunctual Godot
Member
It's especially silly since he is always defending himself against others who are firing upon him.
I'd imagine that is the case with a lot of (not all) people who bring up this complaint. Weirdly it generally centres around Uncharted instead of so many other games and characters which would be equally complicit. In fact, it could also be aimed at countless action movies too, though I appreciate the latter has been discussed in the relevant circles without bias towards a particular franchise or movie, rather the genre as a whole.
Beauty is always in the eye of the beholder, but he's not nearly as handsome as he was in UC2 and UC3
15 years and a couple of more broken noses will do that.
I think he looks pretty awesome for his age.
I dont know but when I see this: (not the best example I know)
I see a murdering individual regardless of the situation. Lara Croft gets a pass because she is a "survivor" and the player must "protect her" so its ok. Plus she is a girl so its cool and killing with females is > killing as a dude.
This whole "Nate is a murderer" thing falls apart if only Uncharted/Drake is called out about it. You have to acknowledge all the games in the industry who do this to have a valid argument else it just falls into "I dont like this game so why are people having fun playing this game" drivel.
I dont have a problem with the violence in Tomb Raider reboot because at the end of the day its a fictional piece of work with fictional characters. I do have a problem if only Uncharted gets labeled as some horrible piece of media if there are countless things doing the same and have released in the past as well. (ie nothing new)
……forgetit
Member
I've been contributing, but the poster made it very clear that they don't really have anything constructive to say. They just dislike uncharted. I typically dislike that meme when used incorrectly, but this was 100% called for.
To be fair, trolling is getting harder to tell apart from a lot of the idiocy these days.
*sigh* dude, you're like TOTALLY missing the point here. she HAD TO kill those dudes, so she can craft herself a bigger purse. duh!
do people even pay attention to the games anymore? D:<
sorry, I thought if we compare game characters with celebrities it's always Tobey, my bad. :B
show me the polygons!
That's Naughty Dogs problem. They wanted to have pseudo-realistic graphics and even want to get more "realistic" on current gen. It was also their decision to make him a "nice guy" in cutscenes and a psychopath in gameplay (including making fun of mass slaughtering foreigners).
Replace those enemies with aliens and make Drake some robot or something like that and I wouldn't complain about it.
I would also be okay with it in case Drake was actually a psychopath in cutscenes as well. Then at least it would fit together and make sense.
ViewtifulJC
Banned
Really? I thought you of all people would relish playing as a mass murderer
……forgetit
Member
Lol, been guilty of doing that before, it's cool bro.
I knew this was a Shinobi thread before even clicking on it...
Is that because it says his name to the right of the link?
oh snap
He's safe from Drake's unjustified murderous rampage as he's not the guy you kill.
When did Lara actually get a pass? I remember plenty of people calling it out on this discrepancy.I dont know but when I see this: (not the best example I know)
I see a murdering individual regardless of the situation. Lara Croft gets a pass because she is a "survivor" and the player must "protect her" so its ok. Plus she is a girl so its cool and killing with females is > killing as a dude.
Google tomb raider and ludonarrative dissonance and you'll find plenty of articles.