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[Nirolak]

I feel this is a good call.

Most consumers buy a console to play third party titles these days, since over the past eight years they've shifted to being by and far the biggest sellers across the board.

Microsoft has a problem in that their system is worse at playing third party games, so if the price is more or even equal, it's seen as the worse value.

If they can actually position themselves as ~$100 less (be it through value proposition or raw price difference) than the PS4 with holiday sales, that starts becoming a lot more attractive offer for value minded customers in the same way a lot of people still bought the iPad 2 when the iPad 4 was out to save $100.

They also have a nice value bundle in the form of the MCC that similarly would let a parent get their kid a console and 5-6 games (whatever is bundled plus MCC) for a cheap price, since the value end of the market also responds well to value adds and collections, and this is a notably impressive collection.

 

[Cole Slaw]

If at launch you'd have told me that Microsoft would drop $150 from the price before its one-year anniversary is even up, I'd have been like, "Ok, cool, let me just wait to buy one then."

If you're telling me that Microsoft's been dropping prices ever since launch, to the tune of $150 in savings, then I'm just gonna be like, "Well, this price drop might be the one to finally make the PS4 drop in price too. Let me just wait for that."

Thanks, Microsoft, you da real MVP.

 

[theviolenthero]

Man, I've never seen a Hail Mary pass like this so quickly. How long did it take for the Dreamcast price to be slashed?

What?
Damn near every single system ever released has gotten a price drop/bundle a year after release.
Even the 360, which had no next gen competition at the time got a $50 price drop in August of 2007.

 

[SmartWaffles]

The Xbox (Computer and Gaming) division made $480M profit last quarter despite all the naysaying so yeah, MS can afford this, it's not like they are bleeding that hard. Would be interesting to see Oct./Nov. NPD and Sony's response, GTAV bundle could help I guess, don't see LBP3 would help them that much.

 

[JetBlackPanda]

Xbox one will take back 1st place in NA after holiday, maybe after November!
What a come back

You realize they have to overcome close to a million unit lead?

I think they make some headway if Sony doesnt match the price cut. If they do.. Welp.

 

[squall211]

I'll never buy an XB1 but this is a sick deal for people who have been holding out.

Looking forward to see what Sony will counter with.

 

[blame space]

man so i should basically wait until Sunday to pick up the sunset overdrive bundle. cool but idk why they don't start it tomorrow.

 

[RealityPales]

They really want me to buy one of those things, don't they?

Problem is, CoD and AC are likely to perform better on PS4 - unless some parity bullshit is in place.

And as for Sunset Overdrive, I'll let GAFer opinions sway me.

If November / December NPD go to PS4, I have absolutely no idea what Microsoft can do to win a month ever again.

 

[Krakn3Dfx]

Man, I've never seen a Hail Mary pass like this so quickly. How long did it take for the Dreamcast price to be slashed?

Funny thing is, it hasn't been that hard over the summer/fall to pick up an XB1 for $350 or less, we've seen the same type of deal over and over, usually for a week or so, and it haven't really made the splash they probably wanted it to. It'll be interesting to see if pushing a $50 discount for the next 2 months will be the secret sauce.

 

[FalsettoVibe]

Xbox one will take back 1st place in NA after holiday, maybe after November!
What a come back

Slow down there buddy....

 

[Miles X]

I feel this is a good call.

Most consumers buy a console to play third party titles these days, since over the past eight years they've shifted to being by and far the biggest sellers across the board.

Microsoft has a problem in that their system is worse at playing third party games, so if the price is more or even equal, it's seen as the worse value.

If they can actually position themselves as ~$100 less than the PS4 with holiday sales, that starts becoming a lot more attractive offer for value minded customers in the same way a lot of people still bought the iPad 2 when the iPad 4 was out to save $100.

They have to have something up their sleeves for Black Friday, if this $349 is all month long, it won't be very special come Black Friday.

I imagine in a vanilla XB1 at $299, or if they really want to win, for one day only they'll drop all the bundles to $299.

 

[BronsonLee]

man so i should basically wait until Sunday to pick up the sunset overdrive bundle.l. cool but idk why they don't start it tomorrow.

Probably to catch out the people who pre-ordered

 

[TheSlySoul]

man so i should basically wait until Sunday to pick up the sunset overdrive bundle.l. cool but idk why they don't start it tomorrow.

Check to see if where you pre-order has a price match policy. Wal-Mart, Target, and Best Buy (maybe Amazon) will refund the price drop. I plan to use this to get Smash Wii U free.

 

[Nirolak]

They have to have something up their sleeves for Black Friday, if this $349 is all month long, it won't be very special come Black Friday.

I imagine in a vanilla XB1 at $299, or if they really want to win, for one day only they'll drop all the bundles to $299.

I could also see them doing something where they bundle in extra software for that time period worth the rest of the difference.

If you take whatever the regular bundle is (Sunset Overdrive plus Forza maybe? Not sure what they were planning for Black Friday specifically.) and at that point either hand out $50 gift cards or even MCC, suddenly you have a nice value proposition for a full setup in comparison.

 

[wapplew]

You realize they have to overcome close to a million unit lead?

I think they make some headway if Sony doesnt match the price cut. If they do.. Welp.

What's the biggest sale record per month? If Xbox one hit 1.5m and PS4 do 500k, they will regain the lead.

 

[SomethingInTheSea]

MS doesn't need to win to be successful. They need to grow the install base to be successful. And this will help.

You can't grow the install base (relative to last gen) if your competitor is eating up your customers (which is what's been happening all this year). MS need to start taking customers back from Sony if they want to stand a chance of ending this gen in a good position.

With the worldwide sales situation the way it is, at this point its only a question of how much weaker they're going to end this gen than when they started it. They need to do everything in their power to make the gap as small as possible.

 

[Joeki11a]

Xbox one will take back 1st place in NA after holiday, maybe after November!
What a come back

Thats the expectations, lets see if it becomes fact, its all a waiting game of desperation at this point.

 

[The Abominable Snowman]

I love competition.

 

[LegendofDragoonLives]

In one year. A 150$ price drop with a game on top of it. Really curious to see if Sony even has a 400$ with game bundle.

 

[BronsonLee]

I could also see them doing something where they bundle in extra software for that time period worth the rest of the difference.

If you take whatever the regular bundle is (Sunset Overdrive plus Forza maybe? Not sure what they were planning for Black Friday specifically.) and at that point either hand out $50 gift cards or even MCC, suddenly you have a nice value proposition for a full setup in comparison.

Aye. We saw that they can literally just hurl codes out with the 'Surprise! Everything's a Titanfall Bundle' stuff, so I could see that.

That being said, it'll probably just be a copy of Forza 5, maybe Forza Horizon 2 if they're feeling froggy.

What's the biggest sale record per month? If Xbox one hit 1.5m and PS4 do 500k, they will regain the lead.

wapplew pls

I love competition.

It's just the best, isn't it

 

[Joeki11a]

What?
Damn near every single system ever released has gotten a price drop/bundle a year after release.
Even the 360, which had no next gen competition at the time got a $50 price drop in August of 2007.

Where is the PS4 price drop?

Or are you saying desperate business moves
are made by desperate companies in the Holidays?

 

[Putty]

What's the biggest sale record per month? If Xbox one hit 1.5m and PS4 do 500k, they will regain the lead.

Lost for words.

 

[Miles X]

I could also see them doing something where they bundle in extra software for that time period worth the rest of the difference.

If you take whatever the regular bundle is (Sunset Overdrive plus Forza maybe? Not sure what they were planning for Black Friday specifically.) and at that point either hand out $50 gift cards or even MCC, suddenly you have a nice value proposition for a full setup in comparison.

Yeah they seem to like doing that, I just don't think it'll have the same effect as breaking that $300 barrier (which is huge and puts it at mass market price).

I also like they start this Nov 2nd, the first day of the November NPD period, they really wanan come out on top that month.

In one year. A 150$ price drop with a game on top of it. Really curious to see if Sony even has a 400$ with game bundle.

lol that aint happening, at most MS could get like a 200k lead. I think this is more about MS cementing themselves getting ahead and staying ahead going into 2015. Or at the least becoming more competitive.

 

[Jaxx]

They have to have something up their sleeves for Black Friday, if this $349 is all month long, it won't be very special come Black Friday.

I imagine in a vanilla XB1 at $299, or if they really want to win, for one day only they'll drop all the bundles to $299.

Doubt it. It will be this new deal plus a game of your choosing. Same thing they did in September. Just a guess.

 

[theviolenthero]

In one year. A 150$ price drop with a game on top of it. Really curious to see if Sony even has a 400$ with game bundle.

Remember, the $350 version does NOT come with Kinect.

 

[Tengrave]

That Sunset bundle plus if you pick up Halo, you have a solid deal. Very interested to see NPDs for November and December

 

[Nirolak]

Yeah they seem to like doing that, I just don't think it'll have the same effect as breaking that $300 barrier (which is huge and puts it at mass market price).

I also like they start this Nov 2nd, the first day of the November NPD period, they really wanan come out on top that month.

I do think getting the actual price down would be more effective, but the reason they like doing it the other way is that in theory giving out a copy of Halo is free in that while it's a lost revenue opportunity, it's not actually a lost monetary amount like something sold significantly below cost.

 

[RebornYeti]

Damn early adopters got fucked so hard its not even funny.

Yeah, looking back on the year, I definitely could have waited until now to get a One, but the hype last year was too real.

Still, I bought it full price and have enjoyed it pretty fairly thus far. Now it's hitting it's stride and I'm pretty stoked.

 

[PerezDeCorcho]

Yup.

I'm getting an Xbox.

Phil Spencer is playing Sony like a damn fiddle this holiday.

 

[NavyPharaoh]

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[JayhawkerStL]

I'd be all over this if there were some exclusives coming out in the first half of 2015 but it's really sparse. I was close to choosing the sunset bundle but I'm gonna wait till next fall to grab a bone.

I decided on the wii u this fall since there's a nice backlog of things I want to play for it plus exclusives are looking better than ms in the first half of next year.

Microsoft should have delayed more games to 2015, I guess.

 

[Con_Smith]

As vocal as I've been against MS I might just bite for the holidays. If only because I can switch consoles with my cousin once bloodbourne hits since he never even plays with his console. Like it's caked in dust and looks white he barely plays it.

 

[JetBlackPanda]

Yup.

I'm getting an Xbox.

Phil Spencer is playing Sony like a damn fiddle this holiday.

hmmmmmm.

 

[JimmyBoy]

Well done, Microsoft.

You finally hit the sweet spot for me.
Going to pick up one finally.

 

[mangochutney]

The salt in this thread is hilarious.

Desperate would imply the console isn't selling very well, which it is. MS is doing whatever it can to help close the gap with PS4 in the US, why wouldn't they lol.

Your short-sightedness is also hilarious.

The whole 'Xbox One is selling well, it is beating the 360 at the same point in it's lifetime, it just so happens that it is behind the PS4' is a nonsense argument and ignores a great number of things.

Indeed I would also say what you said is the description of desperation. You say they're doing whatever they can to close the gap. That is desperation. They want to close the gap be in the lead at all costs you're essentially saying.

With all that said, you are correct though to point out "why wouldn't they", and that's right. They're doing exactly what should be done.

 

[kazinova]

I'll never buy an XB1 but this is a sick deal for people who have been holding out.

Looking forward to see what Sony will counter with.

Never? I'm curious, are you unable to drum up the cash or do you hate fun games?

 

[Future PhaZe]

They really want me to buy one of those things, don't they?

Problem is, CoD and AC are likely to perform better on PS4 - unless some parity bullshit is in place.

And as for Sunset Overdrive, I'll let GAFer opinions sway me.

If November / December NPD go to PS4, I have absolutely no idea what Microsoft can do to win a month ever again.

and who gives a shit

as long as they are profitable

 

[NFreak]

I'm most likely going to jump on this, but I feel like there might be some additional deals come black friday time. I really wish these Xbox One bundles came with physical copies of games though. I know I could just sell the codes but that's kind of a hassle. Oh well.

 

[TheChewyWaffles]

Competition? they been far from that
if Sony doesnt respond how is this helping consumers???

This is all desperation by MS, sony doesnt have to do anything and its selling?

that new lady boss doesnt want to see all year long losing NPDs its that simple.

If MS doesnt win Nov & Dec its over

Wow, ok.

 

[SDCowboy]

What's the biggest sale record per month? If Xbox one hit 1.5m and PS4 do 500k, they will regain the lead.

lol WTF?

 

[jacobeid]

This will get one or two of my friends to buy an Xbox which is always a good thing.

 

[BronsonLee]

I'm most likely going to jump on this, but I feel like there might be some additional deals come black friday time. I really wish these Xbox One bundles came with physical copies of games though. I know I could just sell the codes but that's kind of a hassle. Oh well.

If you can wait until like mid November, we'll have an idea of what the Black Friday bundles are

 

[theviolenthero]

Where is the PS4 price drop?

Or are you saying desperate business moves
are made by desperate companies in the Holidays?

Did you even read my post?
I said price drop or bundle.
Sony will at least have a official $399 PS4 bundled with a game this holiday just like they have for every single holiday since they've been in the industry.

If i had to take a guess we'll see the White Destiny Bundle and a black GTA5 bundle for $399. The system and brand are so strong right now, so i don't think they'll drop $50 off to match MS.

 

[LegendofDragoonLives]

Yeah they seem to like doing that, I just don't think it'll have the same effect as breaking that $300 barrier (which is huge and puts it at mass market price).

I also like they start this Nov 2nd, the first day of the November NPD period, they really wanan come out on top that month.



lol that aint happening, at most MS could get like a 200k lead. I think this is more about MS cementing themselves getting ahead and staying ahead going into 2015. Or at the least becoming more competitive.

I wouldn't mind MS kicking Sony ass for one month in November, since that's the only way I see Sony dropping the price as well. Then my friend might pull the trigger and buy a PS4 so we can all play together.. once his girlfriend finally agrees. :| /facepalm

 

[Joeki11a]

That Sunset bundle plus if you pick up Halo, you have a solid deal. Very interested to see NPDs for November and December

Impress me by beating Sony in March April
and consecutive months, all of the people here are desperate to see MS win a month Come on man.

where was this desperation for the previous months where MS had all the games
Mega exclusives Titanfall, Dead Rising, Ryse ect while PS4 had nada.

Thats what I always found soo odd PS4 has had zero mega exclusives for the longest yet it has been outselling xbox since Nov 2013 launch.

 

[vpance]

Only in US is kind of surprising. Maybe MS funds aren't completely unlimited?

 

[BFIB]

Welp, I think I'm in now. I was thinking of doing the Microsoft Store deal, but I might just sell my PS3 now in a bundle, and put that $ towards the One.

Didn't think I'd be jumping in this early on all 3 (told myself I wouldn't), but that SO bundle looks too good.

 

[Crackbone]

Well at least the holiday NPD threads will be more interesting. I'm interested to see if Sony responds or lets it ride.

 

[10k]

Can't you order it from Amazon.com?

Nope. It either directs me to Amazon.ca or says It can't ship to this address when I put my canadian one in.

 

[serversurfer]

From $500 to $350 within a year. Damn. Wish I'd waited.

Pro Tip: Keep waiting; it'll get even cheaper.