I like one woman that doesn't seem to like me. Her coworker seems to like me. Ribbit.

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I can't do anything but imagine you walking in like this:

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Every weekend. I roll in just to chat and high five them sometimes. These women work like dogs, so sometimes I buy them coffee and food. Today they thanked me for the coffee and good of last time. Today I got them some Kebab. They literally work from 5pm to 6am.


Edit: they are always bored out of their minds. They love chatting with me.

I knew there was going to be something strange about this story...
 
Every weekend. I roll in just to chat and high five them sometimes. These women work like dogs, so sometimes I buy them coffee and food. Today they thanked me for the coffee and good of last time. Today I got them some Kebab. They literally work from 5pm to 6am.


Edit: they are always bored out of their minds. They love chatting with me.

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This accurate?
 
Edit: they are always bored out of their minds. They love chatting with me.

In retail sometimes talking to the weird customer kills some time and is better then being bored, so you can laugh about it afterwards.

OP, none of these women actually like you, you're just an amusement to them. Also just from your posts you think you're a lot more popular than you really are.
 
Is calling someone "autistic" for being socially awkward the new "gay" or R-word? Come on. English has thousands of words that don't offend. Use one.
 
Is calling someone "autistic" for being socially awkward the new "gay" or R-word? Come on.

Not only is that term dumb to use if we're talking minor social awkwardness, calling out this girl for being "autistic" when the OPs behavior includes weekly visits to a pizza place to ply the employees with hi-fives and kebabs while crowdsourcing advice on which of them he should attempt fucking later?

"Hey girls, up top! Awesome. Nah, no pizza for me today, I'm good. I ate already. Just thought I'd stop in, see how you're doin today. HEY, guesss whaaaaat... I got you TACOS! Yeah, just thought you guys might like a quick bite. No problem. Up top! Yeahhh, pretty awesome, right? Anyway, so, I was on the internet last night, and I was talking with some guys, and you would never guess what we were talking about. C'mon, guess. Oh, shit, before I forget, I got you guys some coffee. Nothin makes the day go by like some coffee and tacos, right? Go ahead and take a quick break, it's cool, It's not like I'm gonna tell on you, right? HAHA, up top, c'mon. So, anyway, guess what we were talking about! C'mon, you don't have to be all awkward, it's cool. Here's another taco. Speaking of tacos - guess what I was talking about online last night with the guys!"
 
I have a feeling this is going to end with neither B or C.

I'm certain this will end with neither B or C.

Not only is that term dumb to use if we're talking minor social awkwardness, calling out this girl for being "autistic" when the OPs behavior includes weekly visits to a pizza place to ply the employees with hi-fives and kebabs while crowdsourcing advice on which of them he should attempt fucking later?

Maybe it's because I'm a father now to two girls, but more than anything else, it bothers me how he said C would be "easy" (and has even made some moves) but is stuck on B because she's shy and vulnerable. Like it's some kind of challenge.
 
I'm willing to bet money that the reason he likes B better has to do with boobs. Shit like this always has to do with boobs. Those high fives are just to get up to them nice and close.
 
Is calling someone "autistic" for being socially awkward the new "gay" or R-word? Come on. English has thousands of words that don't offend. Use one.

OP seems to be the socially awkward one

I'm willing to bet money that the reason he likes B better has to do with boobs. Shit like this always has to do with boobs. Those high fives are just to get up to them nice and close.

B for boobs
 
Subscribed. Can't wait to see what happens when he heads there on Sunday lmao.

Honestly from his story sounds like he's some creepy dude hanging around their place of employment. B is scared shitless of him and C is either overly friendly with everyone or just feels sorry for the guy that spends his weekends at the restaurant trying to chat up the girls.
 
OP seems to be the socially awkward one

I'd say he lacks emotional intelligence (which goes further than just being socially awkward), people who try to solve interpersonal problems or situations as they would 'logical' problems are often hilariously clueless, at least to me.
 
Not going to lie, sounds like B likes you. C specifially said that B was in there, indicating that B and C might have had a conversation about you and the C is aware you are interested in B. Then B seems to act shy around you. In all my experiences, it was the shy ones who actually liked me. The girls who approach me are the ones who don't have any interest, rather the ones who play hard to get are the ones who like me.

Either way, god speed OP. Remember to not be wierd about it.
 
Yes. It's... small... but it's open so... First... she came...while B was... behind.

B is 20 years old with no sequel experience, I'm not sure I like that. They work Sunday too. Maybe I should go there and finally set things straight.

The problem is, they are like 5 women working in there, so everyone can hear me.

Just go for it, OP!
 
Maybe it's because I'm a father now to two girls, but more than anything else, it bothers me how he said C would be "easy" (and has even made some moves) but is stuck on B because she's shy and vulnerable. Like it's some kind of challenge.

I'm sure it's scary as a dad to realize he's willing to go with C ONLY because she's a possible conquest and not because he has any actual interest in her, too. Like as a dad that level of objectification has to be terrifying.

I've been that guy before too but in retrospect I realize what an asshole move that is. :(
 
OP sounds hilariously clueless. Why would you even tell us you drunkenly asked one of the girls out and she ran away to laugh at you with one of her friends? That doesn't seem like she's in to you and why would you say the other girl acts autistic because she acts shy/creeped out around you?

Very confused.
 
Yes. It's a small "fast food" pizza place. They work in the kitchen, but it's open so you can see them and they can see outside. First time I met C she came to shake my hand, while B was staring from behind the wall lol.

I don't know. Maybe B is 20 years old with no sequel experience, I'm not sure I like that. They work Sunday too. Maybe I should go there and finally set things straight.

The problem is, they are like 5 women working in there, so everyone can hear me.

Maybe you should stop hitting on employees at a pizza place?

And what is sequel experience?
 
It kind of bothers me how cynical most of this thread is. Like, of course there is a chance that OP is creepy, that neither girl likes him at all. But is it the most likely chance? Does the weight of evidence outweigh all other hypotheses? Of course not, we don't have nearly enough information. The only things we have to go off are a handful of paragraphs from the OP himself. No objective testimony and limited information. In such a situation it is always wisest to adopt a cautious stance towards possible outcomes - just think about how many threads posters rush in to denounce information in an OP, only to look like fools within a short period of time when more information is revealed.

What do we know:
- Op has an interest in two girls.
-Both are employees at a pizza restaurant with 3 other girls which the OP also knows
-Girl C is apparently friendly whilst B seems withdrawn
-OP implicitly states a desire for a long term relationship
-OP drunkenly asked out girl C and received no response
-The girls are not waitresses, they work in the kitchen. Thus one can presume they do not have a motive to act friendly for tips
-OP talks with them regularly and has purchased them coffee and food before

And from these 7 pieces of information people are rushing to make big judgements on the OP's character. Is there anything in there so vitally important as to instantly swing all probabilities to one outcome? The only really relevant piece of information is the napkin date, from which one might conclude that the OP has misjudged the situation. But again, one should consider there are a host of possible hypotheses to explain the response received. So why rush in?

What particularly gets me is the reaction to the purchase of food for them. Suddenly it was all "Oh, I see how this is..". What? How does this tell you anything? Do you scream "Rape!" when someone pays down the line at Starbucks?
 
It kind of bothers me how cynical most of this thread is. Like, of course there is a chance that OP is creepy, that neither girl likes him at all. But is it the most likely chance? Does the weight of evidence outweigh all other hypotheses? Of course not, we don't have nearly enough information. The only things we have to go off are a handful of paragraphs from the OP himself. No objective testimony and limited information. In such a situation it is always wisest to adopt a cautious stance towards possible outcomes - just think about how many threads posters rush in to denounce information in an OP, only to look like fools within a short period of time when more information is revealed.

What do we know:
- Op has an interest in two girls.
-Both are employees at a pizza restaurant with 3 other girls which the OP also knows
-Girl C is apparently friendly whilst B seems withdrawn
-OP implicitly states a desire for a long term relationship
-OP drunkenly asked out girl C and received no response
-The girls are not waitresses, they work in the kitchen. Thus one can presume they do not have a motive to act friendly for tips
-OP talks with them regularly and has purchased them coffee and food before

And from these 7 pieces of information people are rushing to make big judgements on the OP's character. Is there anything in there so vitally important as to instantly swing all probabilities to one outcome? The only really relevant piece of information is the napkin date, from which one might conclude that the OP has misjudged the situation. But again, one should consider there are a host of possible hypotheses to explain the response received. So why rush in?

What particularly gets me is the reaction to the purchase of food for them. Suddenly it was all "Oh, I see how this is..". What? How does this tell you anything? Do you scream "Rape!" when someone pays down the line at Starbucks?


You left out the part where the girl attempts to avoid him but he writes it off as her being autistic for not responding to his creepy advances.
 
It kind of bothers me how cynical most of this thread is. Like, of course there is a chance that OP is creepy, that neither girl likes him at all. But is it the most likely chance?

it's pretty probable, yeah. Granted, the narrative is enticing. I'll admit it's why I asked how often he visits, why he visits, and what they talk about when he visits, which led to the hi-fiving and buying them kebabs bit of info, which didn't do anything but steer directly into that narrative, true.

But on the other hand - why withhold that information in the first place. Why obfuscate what kind of place it is, and what he does when he goes in there in the OP itself? Why wait for me to ask for the specifics of it? I'd suggest it's because he likely knows it's not what he hopes it is, it's not the romantic comedy meet-cute he would like it to be, and spelling that out openly, voluntarily, up-front, might make that a little bit more clear to himself. It might also be what prompted the percieved defensiveness when he explains his motivations for doing so, and other examples of his magnanimous nature, i.e. picking up the check for strangers, etc.

it also sets off alarm bells when a guy who is so strident about KNOWING people's true natures and intentions when interacting with him would need to ask advice of a gaming forum when it comes to which one of these three prospective conquests he should pursue. If he's that good at reading people, and discerning their true intentions in entertaining his company, then what's he even doing drunkenly posing the question to a messageboard?

What particularly gets me is the reaction to the purchase of food for them. Suddenly it was all "Oh, I see how this is..". What? How does this tell you anything? Do you scream "Rape!" when someone pays down the line at Starbucks?

Who's accusing this guy of rape? What the hell are you doing there?
 
You left out the part where the girl attempts to avoid him but he writes it off as her being autistic for not responding to his creepy advances.

No I didn't. What part is this? How do you know this? You're making an assumption

it's pretty probable, yeah. Granted, the narrative is enticing. I'll admit it's why I asked how often he visits, why he visits, and what they talk about when he visits, which led to the hi-fiving and buying them kebabs bit of info, which didn't do anything but steer directly into that narrative, true.

But on the other hand - why withhold that information in the first place. Why obfuscate what kind of place it is, and what he does when he goes in there in the OP itself? Why wait for me to ask for the specifics of it? I'd suggest it's because he likely knows it's not what he hopes it is, it's not the romantic comedy meet-cute he would like it to be, and spelling that out openly, voluntarily, up-front, might make that a little bit more clear to himself. It might also be what prompted the percieved defensiveness when he explains his motivations for doing so, and other examples of his magnanimous nature, i.e. picking up the check for strangers, etc.

it also sets off alarm bells when a guy who is so strident about KNOWING people's true natures and intentions when interacting with him would need to ask advice of a gaming forum when it comes to which one of these three prospective conquests he should pursue. If he's that good at reading people, and discerning their true intentions in entertaining his company, then what's he even doing drunkenly posing the question to a messageboard?

There are a host of reasons for not revealing information. Again, why let one hypothesis: that the lack of information shows the OP hiding things that would reveal his 'creepiness' dominate your thinking?

The OPs question was seeking out whether he should opt for girl he likes, but isn't sure of her feelings towards him, or go for girl who seems to like him, but he does not like as much. It was not a question of "Should I make a move?"

Who's accusing this guy of rape? What the hell are you doing there?

That was a strawman, a poor one perhaps but my basic point is why on earth does this random act of kindness seem to alarm people when you know so little about it.
 
There are a host of reasons for not revealing information.

I'm sure there are. And the fact is that he revealed those details when I asked, so he wasn't THAT worried about the info getting out, I guess. But still - he held it back until directly pressed. There's gotta be a reason for that, and I gotta imagine, considering how astute he believes himself at reading people, that reason is that he knows it would put a dent in the romantic-comedy meet-cute scenario he really wants this to be.

That was a strawman, a poor one perhaps but my basic point is why on earth does this random act of kindness seem to alarm people when you know so little about it.

You're asking questions you know the answer to, though. It's not a "random" act of kindness, according to the OP. It's a specific act, apparently based on his own experience working a shitty kitchen job. It's a sustained series of acts that he insists aren't being done with some sort of agenda, but has led him to asking a group of strangers which of two (maybe three) women he should sexually pursue - which can (and does) read as if these "random" acts of kindness were in fact, transactional.

Are you really curious/unsure as to why people are inclined to see the particular narrative I think I might be seeing?

And if I'm wrong - I'm wrong. It's not the first time I've been wrong on the internet, and if it leads to a happy result, I'm happy to be wrong.
 
However, B, even though my type, didn't showed any interest in me. She is a little bit odd. She behaves a little bit autistic. She doesn't establish eye contact for more than seconds (more out of shyness than rudeness) and her words are short. She always hide behind something when talking with me and lowers her head. Like I make her feel uncomfortable, but I sense it's more her being socially awkward then thinking me as a burden.

Huh.
 
I'm sure there are. And the fact is that he revealed those details when I asked, so he wasn't THAT worried about the info getting out, I guess. But still - he held it back until directly pressed. There's gotta be a reason for that, and I gotta imagine, considering how astute he believes himself at reading people, that reason is that he knows it would put a dent in the romantic-comedy meet-cute scenario he really wants this to be.

reasons could also be:
Because he was drunk and forgetful
Because he simply didn't realise the relevance
Because he is somewhat reserved and not eager to share personal information
Because he typed up his opening quickly without thinking through everything that might be important
Because some quirk of his memory meant the info was not available.

You're asking questions you know the answer to, though. It's not a "random" act of kindness, according to the OP. It's a specific act, apparently based on his own experience working a shitty kitchen job. It's a sustained series of acts that he insists aren't being done with some sort of agenda, but has led him to asking a group of strangers which of two (maybe three) women he should sexually pursue - which can (and does) read as if these "random" acts of kindness were in fact, transactional.

Are you really curious/unsure as to why people are inclined to see the particular narrative I think I might be seeing?

And if I'm wrong - I'm wrong. It's not the first time I've been wrong on the internet, and if it leads to a happy result, I'm happy to be wrong.

I can certainly see the line of thinking that leads to the conclusion, and I wouldn't deny it's plausibility. However it is one of a number of potential scenarios and by no means the most likely.
 
I can certainly see the line of thinking that leads to the conclusion, and I wouldn't deny it's plausibility.

But you're kinda trying to tut-tut at people who entertain that plausibility for... what reason? Because it is plausible. It's pretty likely, even. You haven't really taken anything from his posts that points to a solid alternative, you're just kinda scattershoting "what ifs". It's closer to Devil's Advocating. And you should have a pretty good reason to do that, otherwise it's just more obfuscation. What's your reason?
 
OP sounds hilariously clueless. Why would you even tell us you drunkenly asked one of the girls out and she ran away to laugh at you with one of her friends? That doesn't seem like she's in to you and why would you say the other girl acts autistic because she acts shy/creeped out around you?

Very confused.

Yeah the autistic comment was a low blow, OP.

I don't think you should see her as an "autist" just because she wasn't listening to you...if that's what I got from what you said.
 
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