stahp
plis
It hurts to hear, damnit! It's still too damn expensive in Europe for me to buy one >_>... 1300 bucks my arse. -_-
Asus ROG Swift PG278Q monitor, 1440p/144hz/G-Sync
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stahp
plis
It hurts to hear, damnit! It's still too damn expensive in Europe for me to buy one >_>... 1300 bucks my arse. -_-
SuicideUZI
Member
Well if it helps any it might be worth waiting anyway until this tech is available on a non-TN panel. If it weren't for G-Sync and 144hz there is no way I would use this monitor even if it was a 3rd of the price because of the inherent flaws of TN panels
ULMB is only an option at 85Hz and higher because there would be annoying old-school-CRT flicker if they tried to strobe at 60. G-sync is going to be your best bet in most situations unless you're able to hit a minimum framerate of 85 or 120, which is going to be pretty hard to do at 1440p.
(Not available at 144 since I think it gets too dim at that point)
I use a different 144Hz monitor, but yeah, its SO bad. Mostly annoying with games that are locked to 60 FPS.
Smushroomed
Banned
Anyone having issues with gsync and sli? Including using dsr?
Does gsync eliminate sli microstutter?
Does gsync eliminate sli microstutter?
As of now, the combination of g-sync + dsr + sli does not work, but it will in the near future.
But of course DSR + Gsync works, right?
There are many reasons for big, sudden increases in frame times. In my experience, Vsync is often the culprit and in those scenarios G-Sync does smooth out the game. If you're getting stuttering because of other reasons (settings too high for your system, game bug, poor AFR support), then G-Sync will lessen the impact, but you'll probably still notice hitching.
DSR and supported configurations as of now.
Awesome, thanks.
Cant wait for my new gsync monitor, it will be glorious, except for the fact that i dont AOC company and its TN panel, but i'll live with that, gsync is just too good from what i read
Me too! I bought one online yesterday.
Yeah. It's a damn shame no-one's managed to squeeze good performance out of decent-looking panels.
My must-have features as of now is 120+ refresh and G-sync. But the combo isn't exactly common, especially if you'll want a higher pixel density.
... Which I do want. -_-'... Man, what I wouldn't give for an OLED or VA panel with the performance of the ROG Swift... Sigh.
Either way, I'll definitely be picking up something along the lines of a Swift... That is, whenever the price drops down to a sensible point here in Euroland. The conversion rates and price-increases are just ridiculous at the moment.
I suppose a congratulations is in order, then! What'd you end up picking? Phillips, AOC..?
Philips. It was literally the only option I had, not matter how much money I threw at it.
It will arrive next week. I'm so excited to finally see it for myself.
Chance Hale
Member
Really loving this monitor but don't go in like me thinking the 40s are going to magically feel like the 60s 
50-60 though is brilliant, and exactly what I was hoping for. Great for the small drops in more demanding titles, although with the resolution jump it's happening more often now.
144 FPS is incredible for the games I've been able to run with it, and the difference from 60 FPS is more noticeable than I was expecting. If people think 60 FPS has a "look" than I'd be interested to see what they think of 120+. It just feels and looks perfectly smooth in the same way looking around in real life does. Really neat stuff. Looking forward to replaying Crysis 3 in 10 years
50-60 though is brilliant, and exactly what I was hoping for. Great for the small drops in more demanding titles, although with the resolution jump it's happening more often now. 144 FPS is incredible for the games I've been able to run with it, and the difference from 60 FPS is more noticeable than I was expecting. If people think 60 FPS has a "look" than I'd be interested to see what they think of 120+. It just feels and looks perfectly smooth in the same way looking around in real life does. Really neat stuff. Looking forward to replaying Crysis 3 in 10 years
SliChillax
Member
I've had this weird thing that happens sometimes, very rarely like once every 2-3 days. The screen will turn of or flicker for 1 or 2 seconds and that's about it. Should I be concerned?
The short supply has had an interesting effect here - I probably would have impulse-bought the thing a long time ago if it was available, but while waiting for it to be in stock I've been looking a lot harder at the alternatives than I would have been otherwise.
"Do I *really* care about 1440p? That's only 33% more pixels on a side" (yup)
"How about 4K?" (no 120Hz yet, but that static image quality... hmm)
etc
*distracts self with Blizzcon*
"Do I *really* care about 1440p? That's only 33% more pixels on a side" (yup)
"How about 4K?" (no 120Hz yet, but that static image quality... hmm)
etc
*distracts self with Blizzcon*
Infinity
Member
I had this happen with an Asus PA248Q. It was a common problem with that monitor and DVI, so I had to return it.
For an $800 panel, I'd return it and try another one.
Best of luck.
Try an alternative DisplayPort cable. There are reports of the bundled cables being poor quality.
SliChillax
Member
It hasn't happened again since my last post.
Woohoo, finally got one.
If anyone else in Calgary is looking, here's the place. They just got 30.
http://www.memoryexpress.com/Products/MX53503
If anyone else in Calgary is looking, here's the place. They just got 30.
http://www.memoryexpress.com/Products/MX53503
Welcome to the party ;-)
It's been great for Diablo III so far. I've been sticking with 120 and g-sync and it helps out a lot for smoothing out the stutters the engine's notorious for. I would have used ULMB, but some parts of the engine only update at 60 FPS internally so it just creates a double image.
I find the ULMB is surprisingly dim. The Lightboost hack via the strobe utility on the VG278H is a lot brighter - maybe the backlight on this one isn't as strong.
I find the ULMB is surprisingly dim. The Lightboost hack via the strobe utility on the VG278H is a lot brighter - maybe the backlight on this one isn't as strong.
nextgeneration
Member
I don't play Diablo anymore but I do recall the annoying stuttering in that game. Does gsync get rid of the stuttering completely?
Felix Lighter
Member
I have the BenQ Gsync monitor and while it does smooth things out, I still experience a slight but noticable microstutter with Diablo 3, in SLI or single GPU. I'm convinced that it's related to the always online aspect of the game. There have been nights where I've experienced full on rubberbanding, playing alone, because Battle.net is having issues.
With regard to Diablo, I think much of that is a (really crappy) netcode issue. The PS4 version is super smooth
I have my 970 on the way, but I can't decide between the ROG or the 24" Benq^^
I'm not really interested in SLI, so I'm wondering if a single 970 will be enough to get frame rates in the 50's on the ROG. Maxed with light AA.
I have my 970 on the way, but I can't decide between the ROG or the 24" Benq^^
I'm not really interested in SLI, so I'm wondering if a single 970 will be enough to get frame rates in the 50's on the ROG. Maxed with light AA.
I need to watch out for placebo effect / confirmation bias since I just got the thing. I knew to look for consistency in motion and that's what I saw. I'll try switching between the Swift and fullscreen on my VG278H to determine how much of that is due to G-sync or just due to running fullscreen on the Swift vs borderless windowed on the old one.
A few more considerations for higher framerate D3:
- try disabling sound (ctrl+S) and if it makes any improvement, try different sound settings (stereo, low channel count).
- make sure your mouse is polling at 1000Hz, not the default 125.
- 120 FPS will probably work out better than 144 since some parts of the engine seem to be based on 60.
A few more considerations for higher framerate D3:
- try disabling sound (ctrl+S) and if it makes any improvement, try different sound settings (stereo, low channel count).
- make sure your mouse is polling at 1000Hz, not the default 125.
- 120 FPS will probably work out better than 144 since some parts of the engine seem to be based on 60.
Felix Lighter
Member
Thanks for the tips. I'll check my settings. I do know I checked out the sound settings before because I've seen it mentioned as a culprit. I'll try 120 and I'll check my mouse settings. GSync definitely helps but there is still this very slight micro stutter that is most noticeable by looking at environment objects scroll by as you walk in a straight line.
SliChillax
Member
Is this normal? It only appears in black images.
Is this normal? It only appears in black images.
Looks like backlight bleeding, pretty common in general. Google it if you want to see more.
SliChillax
Member
Should I return it? It isn't gonna get worse is it?
Zeyphersan
Banned
As much as I love the idea of this monitor, I think I'm gonna go with the gsync 4k monitor instead. There are just too many games that seem to be locked at 60fps/have problems going higher that I want to play to get a LOT of use out of the higher frame rates, versus 4k which is just going to look beautiful anywhere
Maybe one day when we can have a non-TN 4k 120Hz Gsync monitor I'll be fully content, instead of having to compromise in some way
Maybe one day when we can have a non-TN 4k 120Hz Gsync monitor I'll be fully content, instead of having to compromise in some way
Personally I wouldn't bother returning it for that, too much hassle. But if it annoys you you could roll the lottery and hope for a better one if the retailer lets you return it. It's just light leaking from the backlight, afaik it's nothing that gets better or worse.
Grampa Simpson
Banned
Anyone know if any US retailers are stocking this?
I haven't touched this thread since shortly after I got mine over a month ago, but for anyone on the fence I'd definitely vote for it. I'm coming from a history of CRTs, VA and IPS panels as my first TN. The viewing angles took me a few weeks to get used to and they aren't great, but holy shit does everything look smooth. ULMB is great for general OS use, makes dragging windows around and scrolling look dreamy, but for games gsync and HFR are the ticket.
FPS at 100Hz-ish is great, and gsync's low latency makes a huge difference over vsync (which I've always disabled in FPS). I played through Shadow of Mordor on it also, which was closer to 50FPS the whole time but the gsync difference was phenomenal. All of the animations and characters all over the screen moving so fluidly.
Once the stutter is gone it's really hard to get used to seeing console games or games without perfect frame pacing. I'll never buy a PC display without some form of gsync again, though I'll definitely upgrade once a high quality OLED version releases.
FPS at 100Hz-ish is great, and gsync's low latency makes a huge difference over vsync (which I've always disabled in FPS). I played through Shadow of Mordor on it also, which was closer to 50FPS the whole time but the gsync difference was phenomenal. All of the animations and characters all over the screen moving so fluidly.
Once the stutter is gone it's really hard to get used to seeing console games or games without perfect frame pacing. I'll never buy a PC display without some form of gsync again, though I'll definitely upgrade once a high quality OLED version releases.
Dick Justice
Banned
I'm looking into buying a new monitor, non-Gsync until it becomes more widespread and cheaper. I want a 27 inch 1080p IPS, what are the best brands available?
Also, do 120hz IPS monitors exist? If so, are there any cons compared to a 60hz monitor with regards to things like vsync and such?
Also, do 120hz IPS monitors exist? If so, are there any cons compared to a 60hz monitor with regards to things like vsync and such?
BebopMcJigglypuff
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http://www.nowinstock.net/computers/monitors/asus/
I got one today from newegg... well they shipped it anyhow I don't have it just yet.
Yeah, that's certainly an appealing option and a better fit for games where you don't care about going over 60 anyway, but could enjoy higher resolution.
I almost went with a 4K HDTV but nothing had displayport, and apparently the workaround for GTX Titan running 4k60 over HDMI uses compression so I would probably have wanted to get a newer card too. Good thing I waited, anyway - I can see G-sync would be pretty important for 4K. I'm fine with the 4K being 60 Hz, I'm just hoping to see displayport and G-sync on a bigger display. Maybe next year.
Zeyphersan
Banned
I would love for all my games to run at high framerates, but it seems like a lot of the ones I want to play either don't go above 60 or get broken above 60
So I'll accept defeat and just go 4k
vakarian32
Member
I just splurged and bought one of these. my old 60hz 1080p monitor keeps stuffing up, power button is broken and yeah just got sick of it. Picking this up on Wednesday, pretty damn excited 
nextgeneration
Member
I finally got my hands on this monitor and I have mixed feelings about it so far. Is there a workaround in getting gsync to work with Crysis 1 and Crysis Warhead at full frame rates? When gsync is enabled from the Nvidia control panel, it locks both Crysis and Warhead at 23 fps, thus rendering the games unplayable. Can others try this and lemme know if they see the same thing?
Also, for some unknown reason, with gsync enabled/disabled, it doesn't matter, but when I try to play Duke Nukem 3d Megaton edition on this monitor, it's super choppy. On my old Asus 120 hz monitor, it's smooth as butter, but on the Swift, it's horribly choppy. Anyone able to try this on theirs and see if they get the same results?
Other than these titles, gsync appears to be working fine on my other games.
Also, for some unknown reason, with gsync enabled/disabled, it doesn't matter, but when I try to play Duke Nukem 3d Megaton edition on this monitor, it's super choppy. On my old Asus 120 hz monitor, it's smooth as butter, but on the Swift, it's horribly choppy. Anyone able to try this on theirs and see if they get the same results?
Other than these titles, gsync appears to be working fine on my other games.
Drama Zed Nod
Member
Been happily using this for a few months but all of a sudden my screen is flickering and there are shadowed horizontal lines running across the screen.
I've tried rolling back the GPU driver and it made no difference.
I thought it was a one off as it happened previously but then disappeared after a reset. Is my monitor basically broken and i need to return it?
I've tried rolling back the GPU driver and it made no difference.
I thought it was a one off as it happened previously but then disappeared after a reset. Is my monitor basically broken and i need to return it?
I'm kind of having the same problem and have disconnected the monitor. One day out of the blue the fonts looked all screwed up. It's hard to explain. Then I tried to put the monitor into ULMB mode and it was constantly pulsing. I am now using my Samsung 4k monitor and it looks normal. I tried different driver sets, different cables, it doesn't matter.
So I am going to have to take it back to Frys and see what they can do since I bought the 2 year plan. They don't even carry it on their website anymore...
Drama Zed Nod
Member
Yup, this sounds exactly like what i have. Holy shit can a monitor this expensive be fundamentally flawed??
ThoseDeafMutes
Member
Having no problems on my el cheapo AOC G-sync set.
[trollface]
[trollface]
Drama Zed Nod
Member
low blow mutes, low blow.
1080pls
Felix Lighter
Member
Dammmn.
ThoseDeafMutes
Member
That was a conscious choice actually; I spend hundreds of hours a year playing Paradox games that look horrific on anything higher than 1080 because of nonexistent UI scaling. When 4k ~144hz G-sync stuff starts coming out I might upgrade and pray that for nearest neighbour scaling when I'm rendering at 1080.