Does America take womens NFL seriously?

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So basicly the women are the real badass players, while the pussyass men need to be covered in protective gear to not get bruises?
 
So basicly the women are the real badass players, while the pussyass men need to be covered in protective gear to not get bruises?

Honestly, the real Womens pro football players are pretty badass. They're mostly butch as shit, but they play at a pretty high level and it's fun to watch. Compared to the men I'd probably say it's equivalent to watching Division 2 college football as far as speed of the game etc....
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It is? I don't think any of my friends who also watch a lot of football can name on female player.

In the scope of Men's football, women's football is nowhere near the men's game. When it comes to female sports i say women's football is right in the top, i know in my home country (Nigeria) the sad state of affairs of the Men's game has driven A LOT of people over to the female side (it also helps that we just became African champions for the 9th time out of 11 total tournaments held, talk of complete dominance). For the first time ever i can name 7 or 8 people out of the women's Nigerian soccer team off hand, and so can other people. I think the women's world cup next year will be the most viewed in its history (coming off the success of the Olympics final), exciting times ahead for the women's game.
 
I appreciate the response. Where does it say the Men's MMA finish stats in the article?

It doesn't. Like I said I can't locate the overall Weight Class by Weight Class breakdown that I had found before. The most I can find is finish rates in the UFC in 2013 by weight class which can give you an idea of the mens stats but can't be compared accurately to the womens stats I found as that's ALL women's fights across every major promotion.

Division Finish Rate
Flyweight 59%
Bantamweight (W) 56%
Bantamweight (M) 51%
Featherweight 39%
Lightweight 48%
Welterweight 44%
Middleweight 55%
Light Heavyweight 52%
Heavyweight 79%

But even in those stats, you can see that just the UFC's Women's Bantamweight class alone, has a finish rate higher than all but the Flyweight and Heavyweight divisions.
 
The lingere league probably should be given some legit airtime. From a distance the attire isn't much different from beach volleyball. Seemingly just as competitive.
 
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Lisa [menacing]: What position have you got for me?!? That’s right, a girl wants to play football! How about that!

Ned Flanders: Well that’s super dupa Lisa! In fact we already have four girls on the team. [gestures to the four girls practicing in the background]

Apparently Simpsons was a little premature
 
No women's sports are taken seriously in America except for maybe Tennis and Skating. The only time soccer is taken seriously is when the Women's World Cup is involved.
 
Its existence is news to me. I knew about the lingerie league, but never watched any games other than maybe five minutes once.

I'm not into football, though, and think it should be renamed as well.
 
No, women's football is not taken seriously. Most people barely know of the lingerie games.

Personally, I love football and women and I've never watched a lingerie game.

Women's college basketball is about as big as women's sports are in the US.
 
From the perspective of a spectator, professional women sports make no sense at all. Why watch women play when their level of play is similar to that of the lower divisions of the men's leagues? No matter how much money you throw at it, this fact will never change. That's the reason why I stopped watching women's tennis (when I was actually still watching tennis). It was just so much slower and less exciting than men's tennis.

So you're arguing for a more inclusive league?

Because there are female athletes in multiple sports who I feel outclass and outplay a whole lot of male athletes.

But you know, we as an American society decided to separate the two.

I mean, it's not like there's bylaws preventing women from participating and entering men's professional sports.

Oh wait...
 
No one calls it gridiron. It's just "football" because it's the most dominant code of football in the US. I've heard the field called a "gridiron," much as soccer people refer the field as a "pitch."

"American football" is the term I've always heard when people are distinguishing it from other football codes (even when discussing "Canadian football,") but I tend to prefer "tackle football" because it's more descriptive of the game - successful tackles always end the run of play (whereas tackles seem to be a much more minor element in rugby and soccer.) It's also less tied to geography/politics. "Tackle football," however, is not widely used, I can only think of a handful of times that I've heard it used.

I hear 'tackle football' used most often not as a way to distinguish American Football from Soccer/Rugby/etc., but as a way to differentiate between between the well known, full-contact version and other, more street/pickup/backyard variants with less contact (flag football, two-hand-touch)

Women aren't barred from the NFL, so any woman could play if she were good enough and made a team. There is no "women's NFL", any pro or semi-pro leagues aren't affiliated with the NFL.

I'm not even gonna speculate on how long it will take to see a female NFL player, though she will almost undoubtedly be a kicker, as the first female NCAA football players have almost all been exclusively placekickers.
 
Let me answer it like this... 80% or more Americans just thought the same thing I did, which is "there's a women's NFL?"

I know that lingerie football is a thing.

I am in that 80. Would definitely watch if it was available on the regular networks, but I don't think i've ever seen it on.
 
I don't, but not because they are women. Because the skill level of it is inferior to the NFL. Same reason I do not watch college football/basketball, Minor League Baseball, etc.
 
It's a testament to the kind of sport football is that the only way women are allowed to play it and get attention is in their underwear.
 
OP says something about women's nfl, but seems to be talking about rugby. I have no clue what's going on. I'm gonna leave the thread now, wanting to have learned something, but having failed.
 
Women aren't barred from the NFL, so any woman could play if she were good enough and made a team. There is no "women's NFL", any pro or semi-pro leagues aren't affiliated with the NFL.

Well, you know...
That same sort of statement has been made about other things as well...


they care as much about women's basketball as you do about the nfl.

So people want the league to fail and shut down and the entire sport to cease to exist?

Anyway, up here in New England at least, people definitely care about women's Basketball


That's association football dude

aka "Football"
 
didn't know there was a women's NFL

Sports where women are taking seriously: AKA genuine bankable, recognizable stars are born in...

1- Tennis
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2- Basketball
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3- Soccer/Football
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4- MMA
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5- Track n Field
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The one with barely covered asses and boobs? It's boring, but that's the nature of american football, right? Sometimes I'd catch a game on the gym. No one takes it seriously, I guess
 
didn't know there was a women's NFL

Sports where women are taking seriously: AKA genuine bankable, recognizable stars are born in...

1- Tennis
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2- Basketball
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3- Soccer/Football
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4- MMA
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5- Track n Field
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Where do you live that women's basketball is taken seriously? I rarely hear about college basketball, and the WNBA isn't remotely taken seriously.
 
This, depending on your convictions, could be one of the most masterful troll posts ever! It's like an onion with so many layers.
 
So you're arguing for a more inclusive league?

Because there are female athletes in multiple sports who I feel outclass and outplay a whole lot of male athletes.

But you know, we as an American society decided to separate the two.

I mean, it's not like there's bylaws preventing women from participating and entering men's professional sports.

Oh wait...

No rules against women in the NFL
 
...there are female athletes in multiple sports who I feel outclass and outplay a whole lot of male athletes.

But you know, we as an American society decided to separate the two.
Thank goodness America is the back-to-back World Champs and forced those dirty Yuro-pee-ins to segregate their sports leagues. Oh wait...

I hear 'tackle football' used most often not as a way to distinguish American Football from Soccer/Rugby/etc., but as a way to differentiate between between the well known, full-contact version and other, more street/pickup/backyard variants with less contact (flag football, two-hand-touch)
That makes a lot of sense and now that I think about it, that's likely the context I heard it in too. Regardless, I think I'm going to use it more because "gridiron football" sounds stupid and "American football" doesn't include the Canadian variant (which is close enough that I'm usually including it and "America" seems to be a trigger word for an annoying subset of NeoGAF's audience.

Really? Didn't know that. Do women try out often?
Not really.
 
I knew about the disgusting lingerie leagues, and never took those seriously. But I didn't know there were actually 3 leagues at the moment playing full contact football.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-NGn-XC9HwM

There's a whole game, all 2 hours of one. From a handful of plays I watched it feels very amateurish, so I can see why it hasn't caught on. Honestly feels like a bunch of women who wanted to play football on a team, got some gear and started playing.
It probably feels that way because it is just a bunch of women who wanted to play football on a team, got some gear and started playing. Looks like any number of other post-collegiate amateur men's football leagues.

It's a testament to the kind of sport football is that the only way women are allowed to play it and get attention is in their underwear.
You could say the same thing about any sport. No one watches any lower level sports league unless there's some sort of connection or gimmick. Two women's pro softball leagues died on the vine, two women's pro soccer leagues died, a women's pro basketball league failed, and I could reach the character limit of this post with the initials of all the men's low/developmental level pro leagues that have failed. The Legends Football League has two choices if it wants to succeed, develop a connection with a large enough fanbase to keep it going, or develop a gimmick. They went with gimmick. There's plenty of other women's football leagues that didn't.

Personally, after watching a bit of the championship game, I kinda liked combining Arena Football with smaller players, it reminded me of what I imagine sprint football (tackle football with a weight limit) would be like if I could ever find a game of that. Arena football has always struck me as too claustrophobic, and LFL seems to solve that issue. That said, I'd appreciate if the uniforms weren't as exploitative (I liked that the Atlanta QB pulled down her jersey enough to cover the boob window) and protective (I can't imagine the turf burns they must get.)
 
Where do you live that women's basketball is taken seriously? I rarely hear about college basketball, and the WNBA isn't remotely taken seriously.

It is taken more seriously than most. At least you occasionally do hear of or see a wnba star. Shit like that women's nfl no one even knows about.

When I think of women respected sports I think of

Tennis
Volleyball
Skating
Gymnastics
Soccer

All activities where being tall and huge isn't that important of a factor.
 
We need a shorthand for American Football, because that "womens NFL" in the title was really confusing.

I'm thinking afootball. Or perhaps football0-10, where football0 is american football, football10 is soccer, and rugby's something like football3.

EDIT: Made a thread. Super good idea, especially the scale.
 
In the US from an early age football is seen as a girls sport, it's opposite in England.

Secondly the Premierleague is the biggest league in the world, it's kind of hard for women's football to get any attention.

Saying this though women's football is growing here a lot. Just recently this made the news.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/29789889

These are good points, I enjoy Women's Football, although the quality isn't as high as the men's they don't dive and flop about much the men.

Though I do find perplexing that Americans view Football as a women's sport
 
Only reason I even know women's pro football exists is because there's a team in my city. Even then the only time I've ever heard them mentioned locally was when they first came into existence..13 years ago. Never heard them mentioned since but they still exist.
 
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Wow... SMH

We've failed as a human race.
 
Where do you live that women's basketball is taken seriously? I rarely hear about college basketball, and the WNBA isn't remotely taken seriously.

men's basketball(and the sports I listed) produces recognizable superstars and great memorable moments in American sports history.

just cuz its not as big as some male sports organizations don't mean enough people don't care
 
People in CT care about women's college basketball, but only if the men aren't doing well.

Couple of other enclaves as well. It's likely the biggest women's amateur sport in America.

WNBA is one of the highest profile women's professional leagues in the world for any sport. Still a loss leader with only half of the teams being profitable right now and the first profitable team didn't show up until 3 years ago. It had a lot of promise and has carved out a small niche but seems to be stuck.

Women's professional soccer should work in the US and Canada but they keep fucking it up. Especially right at the turn of the century when they had their biggest run of starpower and success.
 
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