Face it Tiger..
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Sounds like a depth of issues that could have been solved with an open beta.
Halo: MCC might not use dedicated servers (update: p2p only as fallback, post #278)
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Sounds like a depth of issues that could have been solved with an open beta.
Because it is? I could not get into games reliable on Tuesday.
I can get into games reliably (MM times vary 1-3/4 minutes). Now those games are not evenly matched and most crash after they are finished, but it's more than I had Tuesday.
Same. I was at least able to get some matches yesterday.
Foolishfellow
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The alternative is making it transparent. Providing text that notifies user when dedicated servers are unavailable... but FUCK transparency, right guys! We can totally trust 343 and Microsoft to take care of us!
i'm not saying they weren't pushed. i'm not even saying they didn't know there were issues. i'm saying you've no real evidence that they knowingly released a broken game for the sake of a few days sales
for example they could easily have released it ~early~ because of the shit storm / expense of moving the release date at such a late hour.
they could've massively underestimated a bug, or overestimated their ability to fix it on the fly. it may have nothing to do with a few extra days before christmas.
Or even ten minutes of caring. Seriously.
Lactose_Intolerant
Member
..what do you want, exactly? If dedicated servers aren't available, would you rather sit there in loading limbo or play your goddamn game? If transparency is your bugaboo, I'm sure 343 can patch in some Price is Right flashing lights for you whenever the cloud goes down if that will make you feel better :\
THIS WAY TO P2P MULTISHIZZLE
Finally, some next gen innovation
backflip10019
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Thanks for jumping in, Frankie.
Exactly what I had suspected -- that P2P is being used as a fallback.
..what do you want, exactly? If dedicated servers aren't available, would you rather sit there in loading limbo or play your goddamn game? If transparency is your bugaboo, I'm sure 343 can patch in some Price is Right flashing lights for you whenever the cloud goes down if that will make you feel better :\
THIS WAY TO P2P MULTISHIZZLE
Seriously, nothing wrong with having contingency plans. This is a good thing.
Reality requires these things, stop believing that dedicated servers or even Azure is this unlimited pool of resources that everyone can pull from forever and for free.
..what do you want, exactly? If dedicated servers aren't available, would you rather sit there in loading limbo or play your goddamn game? If transparency is your bugaboo, I'm sure 343 can patch in some Price is Right flashing lights for you whenever the cloud goes down if that will make you feel better :\
THIS WAY TO P2P MULTISHIZZLE
Lol
Deadly Cyclone
Pride of Iowa State
For free? I could've sworn I paid for Live the past 11+ years straight, as well as this game.
Blue Ninja
Member
Game just hard-locked on me while switching between old and new on Delta Halo.
The issue could be solved with 10 minutes of caring....
It sure as hell would've been noticed by anybody given a copy of the game within ten minutes. How was it released like this? How do they attend launch parties for this game when they know it's absolutely busted? It wasn't even working in the days leading up to the official launch.
Miles Quaritch
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In terms of marketing push? I'd say so.
It's marketing campaign was on the same level as The Last of Us. Sony clearly had high expectations for this to be their new racing IP to compliment GT...
If there's a quality difference worth being concerned about, it should be self evident. The alternative is not having access to the game you want to play.
ETA to fix?
I'm pretty sure it says"waiting for space to clear" as in for spawns no?
This. The 343 did good, MS' 'unlimited cloud' fell flat.
akidnamededdy
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Miles Quaritch
Member
..what do you want, exactly? If dedicated servers aren't available, would you rather sit there in loading limbo or play your goddamn game? If transparency is your bugaboo, I'm sure 343 can patch in some Price is Right flashing lights for you whenever the cloud goes down if that will make you feel better :\
THIS WAY TO P2P MULTISHIZZLE
For there to be no redundancy so when there's problems with dedi's and the game doesn't work, the desperate attempts to compare it to DC will begin to gain more traction.
Shogun_of_Truth
Member
I know this is another issue, but any idea what's going to happen to our achievements that are stuck unlocking?
Will they pop this weekend with the patch? Or will they be stuck forever?
It may seem silly to some, but achievements are tied to avatar rewards in MCC, and I really want my Halo CE Master Chief avatar that I was supposed to get when I completed Pillar of Autumn.
The idea of having a game I can never unlock everything in horrifies the completionist in me.
Deadly Cyclone
Pride of Iowa State
There's your answer, they didn't know. Hard to see a lot of things until a few hundred thousand people rampage your servers.
I mean, I guess they could have known something was up, but I really don't think this is some huge tinfoil hat (ubisoft) cover up to ship a broken game.
thanks!
Kssio_Aug
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CloudyTuba
Member
Aw come on dude, don't keep telling us how much better and better it's getting while we all still can hardly get a game. That hurts. Please be aware that 343's "fixes" so far have modified the player experience very little. People are not all too busy playing the game to tell you about how great things are.
I mean, I guess if by "better" you mean "I only had enough time to take one shower inbetween matches" then I guess you could say it's better.
I'm going to try again a bit later and I will give you very specific updates if you'd like them.
Illusive_Juan
Member
They aren't a government agency, they don't have to be transparent just like you don't have to buy the game. Sure it sucks that it doesn't work, but it's getting resolved, 343 is communicating updates to us daily. Just be patient about it. Flipping out wont fix the servers.
There are more than 4000 gamerscore available to unlock,so play some campaign and get it done while you wait! And before you say that achievements are unlocking, they will. You won't lose your progress. It happened to other games too like Watch Dogs.
If it still bothers you, get over it and move on. Not just you, but everyone else that informed about the situation and still upset.
Btw, thanks for the update, Frankie.
..what do you want, exactly? If dedicated servers aren't available, would you rather sit there in loading limbo or play your goddamn game? If transparency is your bugaboo, I'm sure 343 can patch in some Price is Right flashing lights for you whenever the cloud goes down if that will make you feel better :\
THIS WAY TO P2P MULTISHIZZLE
Not feasible until MS copies Sony's flashing controller light.
It doesn't sound like that at all. If I'm reading Stinkle's post correctly, this is a coding fail, not a server fail.
They've known at least since the day one patch with the multiplayer went up and people with early copies couldn't play, but at that point I imagine it was much too late to fix it in time.
...this is a brilliant idea. multicolor flashing for P2P!!!
Thanks for your response, its been slowly getting better for me. Said so, Why not beta a for this? such a big launch...
Opus Angelorum
Member
Stinkles and Bishoptl with the ownage.
Tidus_Great
Banned
except whereas driveclub is just a racing game with no history. MCC is from MS's flagship series.
this gen is pretty awful so far. unfinished glitchy games and half assed launches.
CassidyIzABeast
Member
He's a janitor at 343. He hears stuff sometimes.
I hear Bish is Bias, though.
I swear, someone should ban the "D" word from this thread. It's serving no purpose other than to muddy the thread with people reacting to it!
this message is AAA class, kudos
also, having p2p as a fallback mode for when system is broken, thats pretty fine.
after all is said and done and game plays perfectly, I am looking forward to the interesting story you just promised to tell us
improvements yes, like frequency of finding games, a little bit, but still very far from fixed.
also, my rockets seem to launch later than I launch them.
one thing that I liked, is that when playing online coop campaign, even when connection shits itself at points and maybe it even freezes for a second or two, the party never looses connection.
I guess that makes the thing ..bearable? even when it manifests at its worst.
another thing that I liked is that in every case I got a nice match (connection-wise) going, the amount of fun I had is huge. thats why the anger
Sounds similar to what Epic Games had with Gears of War 3.
Opus Angelorum
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Night Angel
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Good news on the dedicated servers. I'll wait until it's all fixed before buying.
Thanks for the update Frankie. Really curious as to what the unexpected factors were that have caused all the issues, especially those that never showed up in testing.
Any chance you can give us a rough, ball-park timeframe when you guys expect to be ontop of the majority if the issues? I appreciate your not in the mosh pit with the dev team, but any idea would be great.