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Dark Souls 2: Scholar of the First Sin announced for PS4/XBO/PC - April 2015
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Is it that different than Artorias of the Abyss or Dark Arisen? Similar time frame. About a year.
Maybe From should have held back the dlc for this release and than no one would complain.
SirRyanOfSmeg
Member
AFTER Bloodborne? I was actually excited until I seen the date.
Seriously?! Fuck sake. I'd hope they at least provide an upgrade route for previous PC owners that is very reasonably priced considering the differences. I suppose there needs to be more PC shots for me to determine what's going on, but I don't like splitting the player base for what is currently looking like next to nothing as far as changes go
Exactly, I'll probably also wait how this release shakes out and pick it up later when it's cheaper.
I think what some PC users are afraid of is that the original PC release got the downgraded lighting that was necessary for the 360/PS3 versions, all while we knew damn well the PC could handle the better lighting no problem. It was somewhat understandable in that the lighting changes had gameplay implications and FROM 'couldn't' do two different games at the time.
So if this new version is bringing back that lighting and all the gameplay changes that came along with it, its basically a fundamentally changed game that they said they couldn't do before. So instead of just waiting on the PC version til they could do it right, we might be asked to buy the game twice for the version that we arguably should have had in the first place.
Basically, they should have waited on the PC version(if this is the case). Well, its probably good for their business, but for the customers, it kind of sucks.
We'll see.
Just double checked Bloodborne's release date and it was the same as what I remembered: March 24th.
This releases on April 7th. Who thought this was a good idea lol...
It's 4k. Runs at 60 FPS too.
Duxxy3
Member
Playing through the first game is completely unnecessary.
Why does it matter? You'll have beaten that by the time this comes out.
Prime crotch
Banned
They aren't going to bring back the old lighting system, that would imply a much bigger overhaul, and from the looks of this it's simply improving whats there already. I bet the lighting will be improved, but not substantially different.
Masquerader
Member
Yes, but an entire different game didn't come out before Artorias of the Abyss. Also, Artorias of the Abyss didn't cost up to thirty freaking dollars. From knows that fans of the series will spend a LOT of money on it, and are getting greedier. You'll see, if you can't already.
Dylan Sexbang
Banned
This is why I skipped DS2 on 360, I knew this was coming from a mile away. I will gladly pick this up on my Xbone and grab Bloodborne on my PS4.
Going in fresh as a whole new experience is gonna be great. Until I get invaded.
Going in fresh as a whole new experience is gonna be great. Until I get invaded.
checkeredknight
Member
I dunno. Looking at the trailer for the new version, the lighting still looks nothing like the original promo footage for Dark 2.
Also, really hoping you can copy across your save from 360 > PS4. The return of SIR NIGEL in glorious HD resolution is probably my most excited aspect of this remaster so far. BLARGHGHAGH
Except that the removed lightining system doesn't seem to exist even on the remaster.
Fried Food
Banned
wait so this is after bloodborne? That's too late on their part.
My PC runs the DS2 like a boss, and I've got all DLC. Maybe I'll start over again for the new story junk.
My PC runs the DS2 like a boss, and I've got all DLC. Maybe I'll start over again for the new story junk.
BigTnaples
Todd Howard's Secret GAF Account
May hop into this. Never played this series (Though I own PtDE on Steam).
Depends on how much they upgrade the graphics honestly.
Depends on how much they upgrade the graphics honestly.
There are no "lighting system" changes at all visible in any of the released media. It looks a lot more flat than a modded PC version.
Of course, it has long been my belief that there never was a "lighting system" change at all, but rather a simple asset difference (in the number of active lights) between the vertical slice and release version.
MatrixMan.EXE
Member
I bought Dark Souls II at launch and played for all of 4 hours before selling it as it didn't seem to match up to the quality of Demon's and Dark Souls, both of which I loved. I also expected this announcement to be made, so thought I'd hold off until it came to PS4.
Looks as though I made the right decision. Issue is that I don't understand why Bamco are choosing to release this so close to Bloodborne. I'm almost certain it'll be overshadowed, at least on PS4.
Good news either way. The news of this version having graphical enhancements makes me hopeful that the old lighting will make a return. Visually, Dark Souls II looked incredibly bland without it.
Looks as though I made the right decision. Issue is that I don't understand why Bamco are choosing to release this so close to Bloodborne. I'm almost certain it'll be overshadowed, at least on PS4.
Good news either way. The news of this version having graphical enhancements makes me hopeful that the old lighting will make a return. Visually, Dark Souls II looked incredibly bland without it.
Really hard to tell with those screenshots. They take some god awful shots that don't show off the graphics of the game whatsoever.
Tomb Raider, GTA V, Dark Souls II, Journey
All those bets worked out. Skipped 'em all, and now I'll reap those sweet rewards. Only one I wanted to hold out on but didn't was The Last of Us, because story spoilers were a serious consideration there. That one was worth it.
I haven't heard great things about Dark Souls II, though. The interesting question is whether those of us who are going to get this on current-gen will hold off on Bloodborne until after this comes out. I imagine going from Bloodborne back to this will be a poor experience.
All those bets worked out. Skipped 'em all, and now I'll reap those sweet rewards. Only one I wanted to hold out on but didn't was The Last of Us, because story spoilers were a serious consideration there. That one was worth it.
I haven't heard great things about Dark Souls II, though. The interesting question is whether those of us who are going to get this on current-gen will hold off on Bloodborne until after this comes out. I imagine going from Bloodborne back to this will be a poor experience.
Even worse then.
This I'll never understand. All the other criticisms about gameplay in DSII, ok, I'm not going to say much. I still liked it a lot, but I know the more hardcore players are more picky about things than I am.
But bland graphics? Naw. The graphics and art style and locations were superb for the most part. There were some areas that weren't very inspired, but you could say the same about Dark Souls 1 and Demons Souls as well, but people are always reluctant to criticize those games nowadays, acting as if they are flawless or something. Overall, I think I was far more impressed with the visual design and variety in DSII than in either of the previous games.
I suppose playing it at 1440p on PC helped, and I know the console versions didn't look half as good, but still, saying the DSII was visually bland is too much.
Fallout-NL
Member
Yeah, it's a shame, because even with the downgrade, Dark souls II was a pretty incredible looking game at times.
Canis lupus
Member
Just after Bloodborne? Wut, is they serious. I'll likely pass and get a cheap steam key during the winter sale for the double dipping.
No way I could go back to last gen Souls after Bloodborne, and the weakest at that.
No way I could go back to last gen Souls after Bloodborne, and the weakest at that.
PeptoandWhiskey
Member
As someone who has never played any of the Souls games and an owner of a PS4, I welcome this news.
Personally, I was hoping for a triple pack including Dark Souls I and II as well as Demon but I'll take what I can get.
Personally, I was hoping for a triple pack including Dark Souls I and II as well as Demon but I'll take what I can get.
I think they will eventually port Dark Souls as well.
AcePartyN7
Member
Wow
just when I bought the game for Christmas on X360 because I was thinking they will not do it on next gen after more than 1 year after the rumor of the next gen version... really thank you from Software, I will not buy this version and Dark souls 2 will be the last game from your company that I will buy/play.
Also for this price they could put Dark Souls 1 in this next gen version at this point and (why not even Demon's Souls).
This generation is really getting ridiculous, port of old games all the time and this does not stop and mostly of the time they are even broken or lazy port full of bugs with huge patches.
Anyway its nice to see that From Software also care of their Xbox players by giving them the same game as before for the full price meanwhile PS4 players will have a true new game.
I hope this next gen version will be a failure.
Also for this price they could put Dark Souls 1 in this next gen version at this point and (why not even Demon's Souls).
This generation is really getting ridiculous, port of old games all the time and this does not stop and mostly of the time they are even broken or lazy port full of bugs with huge patches.
Anyway its nice to see that From Software also care of their Xbox players by giving them the same game as before for the full price meanwhile PS4 players will have a true new game.
I hope this next gen version will be a failure.
Chance Hale
Member
Mirror Knight still doesn't have the original reflections among many other things still lacking going by the video *shrug*
Windom Earle
Member
I will probably pick this up after having my fill with Bloodborne. Already played DS2 in 60fps on PC, so not too much in a hurry.
Dark Souls 2 was the worst in the Souls series by a fair bit, so it's hard to be too enthused here. Are they going to charge full price for this? What am I saying... of course they are
I'll likely still be balls deep in Bloodborne at the time anyways tbh. Give me an updated Demon's Souls and you might get my attention though.
I'll likely still be balls deep in Bloodborne at the time anyways tbh. Give me an updated Demon's Souls and you might get my attention though.
Inkvoterad
Member
Nah idunno, the only thing that is even remotely interesting designwise is Amana, whole world design was MEH as hell up until that point.
Not thinking the same with the armor designs though, its pretty fashion.
Marvel
could never
I read this a lot.
As a person who has played only Dark Souls and not the sequel yet, can you explain this to me? curious about it.
(I haven't watched a review of DS2 or much footage)
Of course they won't. Its already down nearly 3000 yen. Probably be around $30 or $40. I can see $35 for the download version which is not bad if you haven't bought the dlc. If you have on PC than...yeah that sucks. So just wait 6 months and get it for under $10 on sale like most people...Dark Souls 2 was the worst in the Souls series by a fair bit, so it's hard to be too enthused here. Are they going to charge full price for this? What am I saying... of course they are
I'll likely still be balls deep in Bloodborne at the time anyways tbh. Give me an updated Demon's Souls and you might get my attention though.
CybernatonEvolution
Member
They had the source code for the original graphics effect; modders already replicated them (lighting) to some extent--I have a SweetFX/Gedosato setup that uses HDR/bloom/liftGammaGain shenanigans to do that.
They could have at least reworked the textures (skyboxes particularly) for the PC release; I doubt that they could have achieved the same polygon count from the E3 footage.
Seriously, it is painfully obvious that it is a mediocre port, even though they stated that they are porting the PC version as it is a priority.
How does the original Mirror knight showcase compare to what I can record now in 720HD60??? I never really saw it???????
Really want to get a look at the graphics enhancements.
Also, hopefully its 60fps on consoles. Should be, seeing how easy it is on PC. Some of you have no idea how much better Souls is at 60fps guys.
I do! the mirror knight fight is particularly good I think. make sure to watch in chrome to see the 60 FPS. This is only 720P, think about how much better it is on my 1440P Korean monitors.
If they get that lightning even more black and white between flashes how good would that be? I'll wait to see it first before paying though.
Inkvoterad
Member
PVP is absolute bonkers broken, and the hitbox in both pvp AND pve is very buggy.
World design is bland as fuck.
Bosses are bland as fuck.
World size is about the same as dks1, except they have like 15 more areas or something WHICH MEANS THERE ARE SO MANY AREAS THAT ARE SO SMALL THAT YOU WONDER WHY THEY ARE EVEN THEIR OWN AREA.
Kickass armor designs though.
Did i say the bosses are bland? Cause they are soooooooooo fucking bland.
These are the main reasons for me thinking its nowhere near dks or DeS, ayway.
Edit: The dlcs are pretty great though, so i guess there's that.