Dying Light system requirements [Updated]
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ClaptoVaughn
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Then you should teach AnandTech some tricks since to run ~45 they needed at least a 970.
Their test system is an i7 4770k overclocked at 4.1 Ghz.
Also: consoles in Unity runs some settings higher than "High" on PC.
I've spent hours running around and doing a few side activities with Afterburner osd on the whole time. Aside from that rare bug that sticks me into the 30s temporarily, my fps range is pretty accurate. Maybe it dips to the low 40's if I spin the camera to a huge crowd. I've only played a bit past the first "time paradox" or whatever they call it, so maybe it becomes more demanding later on.
And the console framerate is abysmal. If I was willing to play at that framerate, I could crank a few settings to the highest.
A pc with the minimum requirements IS capable of running better than the console settings and framerate.
True, but not with 2gb. A 4gb 680 paired with the minimum CPU can achieve higher settings and fps than any console in Unity.
It remains to be seen how a 4gb 670 fares in DL against a PS4.
EDIT : a 7970 (minimum GPU listed for Unity) can do the same, certainly more than 20-30fps at console like settings.
Hopefully so the game can use 8+GB of my system RAM for the game.exe. I want a game that will use up to 10-12GB of my 16GB for the game alone, fuck streaming in anything from the HDD.
Yet the 970 performs much better at compute than a 770 (or even a 780), there are some DCU benches as well and guess where does the 770 stack up.
http://www.anandtech.com/show/8568/the-geforce-gtx-970-review-feat-evga/14
http://www.videocardbenchmark.net/directCompute.html
http://www.sweclockers.com/recension/19332-nvidia-geforce-gtx-980-och-gtx-970/16
Tflops numbers make sense when comparing similar architectures.
A 970 is rated at 3.4tflops yet does as well or outperform a 780 (4tflops).
Same goes for the 980 vs 780ti.
Yup, it's the same reason a 7870 sometimes matches and mostly exceeds a 6970. The 7870 may have some worst specs on paper but GCN 1.0 wrecks the weak VLIW4 architecture.
Its that. Or the developers are trying to encourage people to buy on console, because of higher profit margins? Or console manufacturers influencing things to ward off the PC threat, seeing how it doesn't take much of a PC to equal the consoles.
Its fucking fishy, whatever it is. And I'm *not* one to jump to the 'its fishy' idea lightly.
This isn't about on-paper specs. I don't know what you're talking about.
I thought they made bigger margins on PC copies (reseller cut but no royalties). I don't think this is the best way to push people to buy on consoles instead, if this was their goal then delaying PC skus would be far more effective.
Frankly I don't think (but I do not have any empirical data to back that up) PC is much of a "threat" to consoles when it comes to profit. Therefore I have a hard time believing they would be behind those specs inflations.
As I said I can see Nvidia or AMD pushing them to up PC specs in order to drive hardware sales at the risk of burning/scaring off potential customers.
Or perhaps this is simply because publishers are not willing to support a wide range of PC hardware to save QA costs.
It has been proven that AssCreed Unity does not need a 680 class GPU to run at minimum specs at 1080p.
It's also possible developpers have higher targets for their requirements (40+fps, medium/high settings) instead of the bare minimum.
OnionPowder
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Did you want to officially put the $10 on the table or are you just making conversation?
Need to know if I'm gonna be pressed for the money if I'm wrong or if I can press you if not!
Oh I'm totally down. I already set an email reminder for myself on release.
Riiiiight... 'Literally', 16 GB just means that on the highest settings, it'll use higher than 8... I mean seriously, do you know how long ago it's been since Intel made tri-channels? It's been a loooong time since, so it makes more sense saying '16GB' than the specific number that the game uses at it's peak.
10-12 gigs is probably more representative than 16.
I think console manufacturers might still want people to disregard PC gaming as 'too expensive' or whatever if they can, though. A little subversive marketing can help in the long run.
Right on.
Modest Mauser
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So do I. It was the card to get a few months ago. I can't tell if PC requirements are moving faster or if I'm just noticing it more now that I've been gaming on PC for so long.
But they said my non-k i5 3570 was fine for this generation
And it will be.
Yawning at the recommended specs. Come harder.
Still ridiculous and probably an exaggeration.
You serious?
Still ridiculous and probably an exaggeration.
You serious?
cartoon_soldier
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Basically an ad for "we don't know how to optimize our games"
No, I thought I was clear enough in stating that I can and do exceed 8GB of memory used on my system when playing games like Dragon Age: Inquisition, I don't think I was trying to suggest anywhere that the game can use 8GB of RAM all by itself. We're talking about total system memory, because you know, this topic is about the system requirements of a game. I'm not running photoshop or any video editing applications, or anything individually that heavy, I'm just running a reasonable amount of smaller peripheral apps, including Chrome which does eat up a decent amount of memory.
Developers understand that on PC, not everyone will shut down absolutely everything, some people may not understand what is running in the background on their PC, so their minimum requirements of 8GB is likely taking into account any reasonable background processes too that they may have running. With browsers like Chrome running in the background when closed by default, game clients like Steam, Origin, other peripheral software like chat clients, Dropbox/Google drive/OneDrive, skype/mumble/teamspeak, etc - it can all add up and it isn't that far fetched to surpass that 8GB.
My memory usage is a little different, as of course, game engines will use more available memory if you have more, so Dragon Age: Inquisition, for example will use more memory on a system with 16GB of RAM than a system with 8GB of RAM, but I don't think that changes my point.
SargerusBR
I love Pokken!
Not everyone has a baller rig like you
Is it a recent trend? I remember publishers playing it loose in past. Like minimum specs meant 24 fps at 600 * 800. Inflating the specs benefit Nvidia (maybe AMD) more than anyone else.
heres what i wanna know, i know very little about PC gaming and requirements, i run a R7 260x with 2gb gddr5 and PC has 8gb ram. so correct me any way necessary.
What i wanna know is, why 16gb? have any developer even fully optimized a game with 8gb? i dont mean games that use it... but games that NEED to use it? i mean for example, if a developer made a game like TLoU for PS3 (great looking game on PS3 with only 512mb memory, obviously hardcore optimized)
Whats stopping any other PC developer from squeezing that power from 8gb or less and having it still be mind blowing?
What i wanna know is, why 16gb? have any developer even fully optimized a game with 8gb? i dont mean games that use it... but games that NEED to use it? i mean for example, if a developer made a game like TLoU for PS3 (great looking game on PS3 with only 512mb memory, obviously hardcore optimized)
Whats stopping any other PC developer from squeezing that power from 8gb or less and having it still be mind blowing?
Melchiah
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Exceeding 8GB (out of 16GB) in Dragon Age: Inquisition. I don't close regular applications down when I'm playing games, because there's no need to (e.g. Chrome, Origin, Steam, Mumble, Afterburner, IRC, various sync clients, etc).
They're not putting 8GB minimum required because they think their game requires all 8GB of memory in your system, but they can't predict how much of your memory is already taken up.
I didn't know you could have so many abilities bound to hotkeys on the PC. That definitely makes the combat better and more varied on the PC side, as on the consoles the limit is four.
vakarian32
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I'm calling bullshit but it would be nice to finally have an excuse to upgrade my old 2500k and 680.
derExperte
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NEVER!
"Optimization is hard."
What? Hold left trigger to switch over to your other 4 slots. You can use 8 abilities on consoles as well
"so many" amused me, considering one of the primary UI complaints of most people I've talked to is that there aren't enough ability slots.
I used 35 slots in Divinity: Original Sin.
Prophet Steve
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But they said my non-k i5 3570 was fine for this generation
Seeing that it performs way better than the AMD CPU recommended in games, it will.
Well Unity requirements were accurate at least the minimum one.
Umm no? Pad controls also give 8 hotkeys.
I always knew we were going to end up needing more RAM than what the consoles have at some point. Games like Shattered Horizon were requiring 4x the amount of RAM in 2009 relative to consoles.
But recommending 16 gigs for a Techland multiplatform release is motha. fuckin. lol.
But recommending 16 gigs for a Techland multiplatform release is motha. fuckin. lol.
Melchiah
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Heh. I've never really played RPGs on PC, so that's news to me as well.
Burgess_101
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I am really starting to worry about my 780, if I gamed at 1080p it would be fine but 1440p and a solid 60 is quickly becoming a thing of the past.
Yes, IE in Crysis 3 an i7 can have up to a 25-30% advantage over a similar i5 due to hyperthreading.
Probably, as Damian said HT make a difference in Crysis 3 and other games.
Mister0079
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Previously posted requirements were placeholders, these are the new requirements.
Much more reasonable now.
Much more reasonable now.
ashecitism
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updated OP