Every long running series gets divisive, look at Zelda. Or Street Fighter. Some people hated SF3 because Capcom dared to change most of the old cast, other loved it for the same reason. About Tekken, I think the game needs big changes in terms of mechanics, not just more manly men or more cute girls. Either of them won't change much.
Tekken 7 - Lucky Chloe revealed
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Every long running series gets divisive, look at Zelda. Or Street Fighter. Some people hated SF3 because Capcom dared to change most of the old cast, other loved it for the same reason. About Tekken, I think the game needs big changes in terms of mechanics, not just more manly men or more cute girls. Either of them won't change much.
But some are. Lili was a headline character for Dark Resurrection along with Dragunov. And she was also a wack character with a cheap and annoying moveset.
Yeah I don't know how people think new announcements that push away long standing fans of the series are a good thing. Well, I hope there are enough new fans for them that like this sort of thing to make up the difference.
Stone Ocean
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Ok, got my game face on
Mokujin might not make it in because Chloe made it in, Tekken is dead.
I just find it funny that "long standing fans of the series" are being pushed away by a mere character inclusion that isn't too far off from a style present in the past 3 or so games as opposed to any gameplay concerns they might have.
Mokujin might not make it in because Chloe made it in, Tekken is dead.
nkarafo
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Or maybe it just looks ridiculous and they can't stand it?
Stone Ocean
Member
I find Bob to be a god awful design and I would delete the Capos from the game
I act like an adult about it.
So acting like an adult is paying fifty quid for a product that no longer suits your tastes is it? Who's to say what combination of long term and short issues are resulting in fans dropping the series or what people's personal tolerance is for sh*tty character designs. The fact of the matter is that I seem to hear more and more people saying it with every new announcement that comes out about Tekken. But I'm not even sure what your post was trying to say. You find it funny yeah? Cool, I guess.
ãInaba Residentã
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Stone Ocean
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Do I have to go in circles? Dropping a game because new characters don't suit your tastes is immature to me yeah, but it's your money, do whatever you want with it. If you want Tekken 3 just go play that if fighting against lame looking characters bothers you so much.
"Who's to say", "seem to hear", blanket statements don't say anything.
Ban Puncher
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Senpai, you never go full kawaii.
Hot Coldman
Banned
NeoGAF can make positive change after all.
Opus Angelorum
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haha!
nkarafo
Member
The issue is not that it's "just some characters". It lowers the value of the whole game because it shows that devs don't take us seriously anymore. I'm not a Tekken player (so maybe i don't know better about its fans, although i remember the game being more serious) but if such character designs entered my favorite games, i would stop buying them because i don't like it when developers of the games i buy think i'm some kind of a sex thirsty 15 year old boy who only wants to fap at any given time/opportunity. I'm way past that.
Now you are going to say "as an adult you can just ignore it. You are above it, it shouldn't affect you". To which i can agree, but this is a fighting game. It means that you are going to interact with these characters more often than you can stand it. People will select them in online matches and you will have to fight them during one player mode, etc. Sure, i can ignore all this but for how long? It will annoy me at some point, i don't have that much patience.
So in a game with crazy-ass hair, robots, bears, kangaroos, and giant lizards...the stupid "kawaii uguu~" character design is the one that comes off as the most ridiculous? Really?
I mean, I think the character design is pretty stupid -the artwork at least looks much better, but just doesn't translate well to the more realistic look of the game- but the outrage coming from it is beyond ridiculous.
TomcatTheLion
Member
More likely than not Harada is trolling the people complaining hardcore especially given that muscular/skinhead character tweet. Otherwise it would really suck to lose a new character in the roster between regions.
Though based on reactions in here one would think people are going to be forced at gunpoint to play as Lucky Chloe for the life of the game.
Though based on reactions in here one would think people are going to be forced at gunpoint to play as Lucky Chloe for the life of the game.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J3tVTrcSEFo
This was fine.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-TnjO8JYJ9U
This was fine.
Jin going full edgelord was fine.
Walking bears are fine.
Cyborg ninjas were fine.
Tiny dragons and boxing kangaroos were fine.
But a capoeira girl with twintails? Can't let that slide! Crossing a line there, oh booy. You might offend someone!
Stone Ocean
Member
No, I'm gonna say you're completely paranoid. What in the moist barrels of fuck is the bolded part? Harada isn't pointing a K-ON gun to your head trying to make you buy a half nude Strike Witches figure, holy fuck.
Come on, he even admitted that he doesn't play the game. This "this isn't made for me but I don't like it so it should be changed" mindset is a staple of the modern video games fanbase.
Of course he's trolling. Would be extra work to make the game different for one region and would also mean that online play would be restricted between regions.
Holy shit.So I just bumped into this post on my Facebook
Bad NeoGAF
Well, it was inevitable that someone would take the obvious route sooner or later.
For once, I'm glad that GAF is seen as a solely American forum. I don't want you guys controlling what I can and can't play.
Stone Ocean
Member
It's fine if you're supposed to be a joke, but god forbid you're meant to be cute.I don't see anything wrong with her.... especially compared to fighting bears and trees and stuff.
Harada should go back in time and remove Xiaoyu from T3.
Morning Star
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Now you see what you all have done.
ManEaterBug
Banned
I really don't see what's wrong with the character except maybe the silly jacket and cat headphones. She seems to have a good moveset which is the most important for fighting games no?
ThoughtsOfSpeaking
Banned
That Harada tweet better be a joke.
My friend is already salivating at the idea of cheesing me out with a lily+christie combo.
My friend is already salivating at the idea of cheesing me out with a lily+christie combo.
Us? Speak for yourself please.
And what of idolmaster have you even consumed/watched/played to call it bullshit? It rather looks like you haven't even touched the franchise yet.
Ban Puncher
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Parakeetman
No one wants a throne you've been sitting on!
My problem is her moveset looks more like a "mokujin" sorta deal where its borrowed from other characters rather than being her own original moves.
Could care less about her design.
Oh shit :lol
Mihos
Gold Member
Xiaoyu was my favorite character... I liked her backwards stance for some reason. Knowing this new chick pisses people off just guarantees I am going to play her exclusively online.
nkarafo
Member
Like i said, i'm not a Tekken fan, i only saw it in arcades a few times back in mid 90's and i played Tekken 3 a bit on the PS1. I don't know how the game looks now. I also know that in most fighting games, there's always the big breasted girls with jiggling boobs.
But this character feels like it aims at very specific sexual preferences. It looks like a mix of lolicon and furry. Not much loli though as the girl looks tall and developed but she does act like a little child. I don't know. its not like the usual big boob fighters who are generic enough to not care. This looks like a lot of thought and work has been done in order to make the character cater at a very specific crowd. Its weird enough to make many people uncomfortable playing/interacting with them. Unless Tekken does, so i shouldn't even have an opinion.
Now, i don't have anything against furries or lolicon. Everyone has hes own "perverted" fantasies. Its perfectly normal in this day and age and there are much worse things to worry about really. But i don't like it when they push it to my face, in a videogame that shouldn't have anything to do with this stuff.
DryEyeRelief
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I think Lars is just as stupid looking as Chloe so can you remove him from the US version too Harada
I don't know where you're getting the giant lizard thing from, but I personally do find combat robots, very large bears, genetically engineered kangaroos, and grotesquely muscled people with silly hair to be more credible fighters than a kawaii uguu pop-star who seems more focused on looking cute for the camera than actual fighting.
I mean, sure, we had Miharu, but she was a palette swap, and then a bonus character who was two steps above a palette swap. I feel like we've got enough perpetually teenaged girls confirmed for the roster (Xiaoyu, Lili, Asuka, and Alisa have already all been confirmed), and no, Harada, that doesn't mean I want a "muscly skinhead man". What about more older women? Jun was nice. Michelle was... uh, well, she got ahold of Heihachi's youth elixir somehow and ended up looking younger than Julia. Kunimitsu was cool, I played her for a while. Catalina looks all right, though she reminds me greatly of Christie, and falls into that same early-mid twenties age range that Christie, Julia, and (I think) Zafina already occupy.
I really do think the female cast could use a little more diversity. I've kind of gone off on a tangent now, but I think it's something else I don't like about Chloe's inclusion. She doesn't represent very much that's new at all. She's like a Xiaoyu-Alisa combination with the kawaii factors turned up to eleven. Even her moves, as others have said, seem derivative of the capos and Lili. So I guess it's more than me simply disliking her design. Her inclusion strikes me as being, on the whole, worthless.
Mihos
Gold Member
I am more concerned with you and that the first thing you went to was this is some kind of sexual thing.
Flying Wonkey
Member
So I just bumped into this post on my Facebook
Bad NeoGAF
Why is Neogaf solely responsible for the Harada tweets? Tekken Zaibatsu, Avoidingthepuddle/Eventhubs comments and some other places also complained about the character design too lol.
nkarafo
Member
I wish i was as innocent and naive as you but i'm not. This character is about a sexual thing. Now, we can always ignore it and enjoy the game. That's also an option.
Stone Ocean
Member
Almost every fighting game character is about a sexual thing. You're just being biased because it's not your sexual thing.
This is a series with Anna in it. I repeat, Anna is a thing.
Misterinenja
Member
U dun did it now guys.
Death Metalist
Member
I don't see a problem with her, she's just another character with a unique personality like every other character in the game with their unique styles and personalities. Whiny much?