Tekken 7 - Lucky Chloe revealed

nkarafo

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There are male idols too.... and I stick by the "you are sick" prognosis. Think all girl backstreet boys.
What? You really think girls don't get "excited" when they see all these perfectly fit, beautiful boys with trendy haircuts and shaved chests acting manly and cool on stage (and sometimes emotional because being manly and sensitive is also a plus)? Have you ever seen a boyband with members that aren't beautiful by the mainstream media standards?

In what world you guys live? I want to come and live there too. Is the place covered in candy and chocolate?

BTW, just because i'm not naive doesn't mean i'm "sick".

Nkarafo, how much do you know about Japanese culture? Would you say you're an expert?
I think i know and seen enough to have at least an opinion.
 

nkarafo

Member
Hahaha this thread reminds me of that South Park episode with Mickey Mouse trying to push "purity rings" to little girls so he can sell sex to them under their noses, through boybands.

It really is spot on. You should really watch the episode.
 
Then Chloe isn't supposed to be an idol since she is showing cleavage.
I know it's contradictory and doesn't make much sense, but that's just how it is. AKB48 girls do bikini shoots and stuff, but it isn't supposed to be sexual and more of a "friend" type of vibe, you want to protect her not have sex with her.

Sure it's sexual to people looking from outside, but within the people that look up to idols is different, it's really hard to explain and I'm not sure if I can. Japan works in mysterious ways.
 

IvorB

Member
I think this is a case of "forbidden fruit" kind of thing. Your idols can look as sexy as possible, showing boobs, wearing tiny skirts and doing poses to reveal their underwear. But nobody can't touch or think sexually of them, even though your nose betrayed you as it bleeds like a hose. The only one who can do dirty things to them is YOU, in your fantasies. Because if you know that your idol isn't sexually active, meaning there aren't any other males antagonizing you, it helps you think that she is completely yours in your fantasies.

See, i'm not convinced. I still think its about sex.

Okay, now this thread is going places...
 

nkarafo

Member
I know it's contradictory and doesn't make much sense, but that's just how it is. AKB48 girls do bikini shoots and stuff, but it isn't supposed to be sexual and more of a "girl next door".
Please explain this to me then. Why all girls are so beautiful? Why all of them have characteristics that push most men's "buttons"? They have perfect bodies, perfect breasts and perfect, beautiful faces. They also act sexy. They show off all these characteristics using revealing clothing, tiny skirts and sexy poses (mixed with cute, childish ones).

So if this whole "idol" thing isn't about sex then where are the ugly ones? Where are the fat ones? where are the ones wearing less revealing clothing? And if they don't want to have anything with sex then why are they doing their best to be as sexy and provocative as possible?

Yes, its contradictory alright. Very contradictory.
 

Paracelsus

Member
Idol said:
: a greatly loved or admired person

: a picture or object that is worshipped as a god

It's the kind of cult where you adore someone like a god/goddess and worship them in all of their purity (?), no way you would spend thousands of dollars on their person otherwise. That's why seeing them smoke or hang around with the opposite sex/same sex in a romantic fashion is casted under a bad light.

But this new character is not like that, it's closer to what Super Sonico is. It's an uncanny 3D rendition of a 2D-like character.
 
Late to this thread and holy shit, some people are actually crying fucking sexist because it has cleavage? Are you fucking 12? Do you think girls and their female parts still have cooties or something? Or are you so sexually immature that you can't handle the sight of breasts without popping a hard one, so you choose to instead get offended for females over a design who's LEAST of problems is that it has fucking cleavage?
I thought you had to be an adult to get on this site the hell is this?

Anyway the design is just Marie Rose except less charming and more lazy. Like, a lot more lazy. But as long as she's got a unique fighting style ah well.
 
Please explain this to me then. Why all girls are so beautiful? Why all of them have characteristics that push most men's "buttons"? They have perfect bodies, perfect breasts and perfect, beautiful faces. They also act sexy. They show off all these characteristics using revealing clothing, tiny skirts and sexy poses (mixed with cute, childish ones).

So if this whole "idol" thing isn't about sex then where are the ugly ones? Where are the fat ones? where are the ones wearing less revealing clothing? And if they don't want to have anything with sex then why are they doing their best to be as sexy and provocative as possible?

Yes, its contradictory alright. Very contradictory.
There's "imperfect" idols too. Stuff like chubby girls, heavily crooked teeth, etc.

Models of beauty aren't inherently sexual. In that sense idols aren't much different from western celebrities. You have stuff like Scarlet Johansson but you also have stuff like Natalie Dormer. But now we're entering some heavy philosophical shit that I don't know enough to talk about lol, I'm talking about videogames not writing a thesis
 

Creaking

He touched the black heart of a mod
Late to this thread and holy shit, some people are actually crying fucking sexist because it has cleavage? Are you fucking 12? Do you think girls and their female parts still have cooties or something? Or are you so sexually immature that you can't handle the sight of breasts without popping a hard one, so you choose to instead get offended for females over a design who's LEAST of problems is that it has fucking cleavage?
I thought you had to be an adult to get on this site the hell is this?

Calm down and actually read the context of the posts that you're flipping out over.
 
I woke up, kinda skimmed through thread and see some other advancements in Harada's apparent "joking" hopefully. Also this casual vs hardcore discussion, what?

Also Stone Ocean your new avatar, haha.

I'm going to completely going to ignore the discussion at hand and go off on a random tangent.

They should give her heart and cat shaped particle effects when she hits people for maximum moe.

Like the Tekken spark effects? Yeah sure.
 

Hexa

Member
I'm going to completely going to ignore the discussion at hand and go off on a random tangent.

They should give her heart and cat shaped particle effects when she hits people (in place of the firey thing) for maximum moe.
 

Parakeetman

No one wants a throne you've been sitting on!
There's "imperfect" idols too. Stuff like chubby girls, heavily crooked teeth, etc.

But models of beauty aren't inherently sexual. In that sense idols aren't much different from western celebrities.

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Tekken 8 characters confirmed!
 

Blobbers

Member
I'm going to completely going to ignore the discussion at hand and go off on a random tangent.

They should give her heart and cat shaped particle effects when she hits people for maximum moe.

Her English is already maximum moe. Heart and cat shaped particle effects would be Overmoe.
 
I'm going to completely going to ignore the discussion at hand and go off on a random tangent.

They should give her heart and cat shaped particle effects when she hits people for maximum moe.
I'm sure we'll have some form of heart particle customization like older games.
 
Please explain this to me then. Why all girls are so beautiful? Why all of them have characteristics that push most men's "buttons"? They have perfect bodies, perfect breasts and perfect, beautiful faces. They also act sexy. They show off all these characteristics using revealing clothing, tiny skirts and sexy poses (mixed with cute, childish ones).

So if this whole "idol" thing isn't about sex then where are the ugly ones? Where are the fat ones? where are the ones wearing less revealing clothing? And if they don't want to have anything with sex then why are they doing their best to be as sexy and provocative as possible?

Yes, its contradictory alright. Very contradictory.
also sorry for double posting but this post really bothers me.

You do know the real world has shit like strip clubs and hookers right? America has Idoling jobs too who's jobs are to be attractive in outfits for magezine covers and such.

Even if it IS about sex, so? People aren't allowed to be into sex related things now? It's called being a human man. No, I don't find fat or ugly people physically attractive, like myself (which is why I'm trying to loose that weight to be, ya know, healthy looking) am I satan now? No, cause that doesn't mean I hate all fat people or some shit. I AM fat, so of course I know that doesn't dictate their persona.
 
I wish i was as innocent and naive as you but i'm not. This character is about a sexual thing. Now, we can always ignore it and enjoy the game. That's also an option.

This is something I've noticed recently, especially with the whole Acquire mascot thing. When something comes from Japan, the people who immediately bring sex into the conversation aren't the people who like it, it's always the people who don't like it and try to brush it off as just something made to appeal to pedophiles, even when there's no sexualization or the character is an adult. As someone who likes cute characters like this, shit ain't sexual for me and everyone I see that likes this just says "How cute!" Cute does not automatically make something sexual, I personally don't want to stick my dick in Pikachu.

If you see everything cute or any child characters immediately as sexual objects, regardless of whether you're into that or not, you should probably spend less time on the internet and think some things through, because that's not a healthy mindset to have.
 

nkarafo

Member
also sorry for double posting but this post really bothers me.

You do know the real world has shit like strip clubs and hookers right? America has Idoling jobs too who's jobs are to be attractive in outfits for magezine covers and such.

Even if it IS about sex, so? People aren't allowed to be into sex related things now? It's called being a human man. No, I don't find fat or ugly people physically attractive, like myself (which is why I'm trying to loose that weight to be, ya know, healthy looking) am I satan now? No, cause that doesn't mean I hate all fat people or some shit. I AM fat, so of course I know that doesn't dictate their persona.
I never, ever, said in any of my posts that we should not be allowed to sex related things. Please read a few older posts in the discussion to have some context.
 
The issue is not that it's "just some characters". It lowers the value of the whole game because it shows that devs don't take us seriously anymore. I'm not a Tekken player (so maybe i don't know better about its fans, although i remember the game being more serious) but if such character designs entered my favorite games, i would stop buying them because i don't like it when developers of the games i buy think i'm some kind of a sex thirsty 15 year old boy who only wants to fap at any given time/opportunity. I'm way past that.

Now you are going to say "as an adult you can just ignore it. You are above it, it shouldn't affect you". To which i can agree, but this is a fighting game. It means that you are going to interact with these characters more often than you can stand it. People will select them in online matches and you will have to fight them during one player mode, etc. Sure, i can ignore all this but for how long? It will annoy me at some point, i don't have that much patience.

Tekken has never been a "serious" franchise

Adults don't get triggered by cute anime girls
 

nkarafo

Member
If you see everything cute or any child characters immediately as sexual objects, regardless of whether you're into that or not, you should probably spend less time on the internet and think some things through, because that's not a healthy mindset to have.
Except that i never said that cute things are sexual. Another person putting things i never said into my mouth.

I don't have a problem with cute, little girls in my games (although they tend to be somewhat annoying most of the time). I have a problem with cute little girls with skimpy skirts acting like grown up women in strip clubs. In my games. Because otherwise, i wouldn't care about them.
 
Not changing but for example in T6 or TT2 you could add japanese kana SFX to your moves and I think there were some heart stuff but I'm not sure anymore.

I haven't played TTT2 (never got it for some reason but maybe ill get it just a time killer) in T6 I remember that stuff in there. There might have been some heart stuff but yeah I don't remember either.

That's been a thing since 6.
Nah I know, but I meant specifically Hearts.
 
Except that i never said that cute things are sexual. Another person putting things i never said into my mouth.

I don't have a problem with cute, little girls in my games. I have a problem with cute little girls with skimpy skirts acting like grown up women in strip clubs. In my games. Because otherwise, i wouldn't care about them.

That last bit was a general response to everyone who does this, you just happened to be one of them.

And that doesn't even apply here, since she appears to be as grown up as every other Tekken girl.
 

Lyte Edge

All I got for the Vernal Equinox was this stupid tag
Except that i never said that cute things are sexual. Another person putting things i never said into my mouth.

I don't have a problem with cute, little girls in my games (although they tend to be somewhat annoying most of the time). I have a problem with cute little girls with skimpy skirts acting like grown up women in strip clubs. In my games. Because otherwise, i wouldn't care about them.

I thought you didn't play Tekken?
 

Toparaman

Banned
also sorry for double posting but this post really bothers me.

You do know the real world has shit like strip clubs and hookers right? America has Idoling jobs too who's jobs are to be attractive in outfits for magezine covers and such.

Even if it IS about sex, so? People aren't allowed to be into sex related things now? It's called being a human man. No, I don't find fat or ugly people physically attractive, like myself (which is why I'm trying to loose that weight to be, ya know, healthy looking) am I satan now? No, cause that doesn't mean I hate all fat people or some shit. I AM fat, so of course I know that doesn't dictate their persona.

And no one said otherwise. Learn to read before getting mad over nothing.
 

Qvoth

Member
i think harada's probably just trolling, hard to believe they will lock her out for any particular region considering they spent money creating her
 

Lyte Edge

All I got for the Vernal Equinox was this stupid tag
No but i used to somewhat like JRPGs. You know, before the whole moe, wifu, lolicon, kawai shit got mainstream.

That's shit's been there since the beginning. I guess I'm just not understanding why you care so much about this if you don't care about playing these games.
 
"Diversity is only good when it caters to my taste"

People that can grow bat wings and shoot lasers out of their eyes are okay...
And a robot girl with chainsaw arms and wings is okay...
And a fat acrobatic martial artist guy is okay...
And an ancient alien bio-weapon worshiped by an old society as a war god is okay...
And two bears who were taught martial arts by their owners are okay...
And a cyborg ninja is okay...
And a family of boxing kangaroos is okay...
But not an Japanese idol.

Tekken is very serious.
 

nkarafo

Member
Waifu, son. And that stuff has always been there. Just that now days there is better graphics.
Son? What are you, 60?
That's shit's been there since the beginning. I guess I'm just not understanding why you care so much about this if you don't care about playing these games.
Ι don't remember that on the NES. All i remember was an epic adventure with a warrior, a wizard a red mage, a black belt and some others.
 

RM8

Member
People that can grow bat wings and shoot lasers out of their eyes are okay...
And a robot girl with chainsaw arms and wings is okay...
And a fat acrobatic martial artist guy is okay...
And an ancient alien bio-weapon worshiped by an old society as a war god is okay...
And two bears who were taught martial arts by their owners are okay...
And a cyborg ninja is okay...
And a family of boxing kangaroos is okay...
But not an Japanese idol.

Tekken is very serious.
Those are different because reasons.

Also, Tekken has always had serious, un-sexy female designs like a woman who shakes her boobs / butt while laughing, and a painfully anime schoolgirl who even had an ending sequence in anime style.
 

Nymphae

Banned
I really don't see how this character is any worse than Anna or Nina, or the other women they've added over the years that I can't remember the names of.
 
Of course he's trolling. Would be extra work to make the game different for one region and would also mean that online play would be restricted between regions.

Oh no doubt he's trolling.

It would be ridiculous to remove one character out of a possibly 40+ roster just because a few players are moaning. Fighting game rosters would constantly be neutered if that were the case.
 
IMO, the fact that she is a grown up woman removes many of the controversy. Nothing uncomfortable here.

It’s a woman in a pink outfit with a cleavage.
If you have no problem with the color pink or seeing a cleavage, you should be OK.
 
Oh no doubt he's trolling.

It would be ridiculous to remove one character out of a possibly 40+ roster just because a few players are moaning. Fighting game rosters would constantly be neutered if that were the case.

600 people down voted the video on YouTube. Everyone that watched the video doesn't vote. I for one didn't vote. I'm torn on the character.
 
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