ThreePiMatt
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Nkarafo, how much do you know about Japanese culture? Would you say you're an expert?
What? You really think girls don't get "excited" when they see all these perfectly fit, beautiful boys with trendy haircuts and shaved chests acting manly and cool on stage (and sometimes emotional because being manly and sensitive is also a plus)? Have you ever seen a boyband with members that aren't beautiful by the mainstream media standards?There are male idols too.... and I stick by the "you are sick" prognosis. Think all girl backstreet boys.
I think i know and seen enough to have at least an opinion.Nkarafo, how much do you know about Japanese culture? Would you say you're an expert?
I know it's contradictory and doesn't make much sense, but that's just how it is. AKB48 girls do bikini shoots and stuff, but it isn't supposed to be sexual and more of a "friend" type of vibe, you want to protect her not have sex with her.Then Chloe isn't supposed to be an idol since she is showing cleavage.
I think this is a case of "forbidden fruit" kind of thing. Your idols can look as sexy as possible, showing boobs, wearing tiny skirts and doing poses to reveal their underwear. But nobody can't touch or think sexually of them, even though your nose betrayed you as it bleeds like a hose. The only one who can do dirty things to them is YOU, in your fantasies. Because if you know that your idol isn't sexually active, meaning there aren't any other males antagonizing you, it helps you think that she is completely yours in your fantasies.
See, i'm not convinced. I still think its about sex.
Please explain this to me then. Why all girls are so beautiful? Why all of them have characteristics that push most men's "buttons"? They have perfect bodies, perfect breasts and perfect, beautiful faces. They also act sexy. They show off all these characteristics using revealing clothing, tiny skirts and sexy poses (mixed with cute, childish ones).I know it's contradictory and doesn't make much sense, but that's just how it is. AKB48 girls do bikini shoots and stuff, but it isn't supposed to be sexual and more of a "girl next door".
Idol said:: a greatly loved or admired person
: a picture or object that is worshipped as a god
There's "imperfect" idols too. Stuff like chubby girls, heavily crooked teeth, etc.Please explain this to me then. Why all girls are so beautiful? Why all of them have characteristics that push most men's "buttons"? They have perfect bodies, perfect breasts and perfect, beautiful faces. They also act sexy. They show off all these characteristics using revealing clothing, tiny skirts and sexy poses (mixed with cute, childish ones).
So if this whole "idol" thing isn't about sex then where are the ugly ones? Where are the fat ones? where are the ones wearing less revealing clothing? And if they don't want to have anything with sex then why are they doing their best to be as sexy and provocative as possible?
Yes, its contradictory alright. Very contradictory.
Late to this thread and holy shit, some people are actually crying fucking sexist because it has cleavage? Are you fucking 12? Do you think girls and their female parts still have cooties or something? Or are you so sexually immature that you can't handle the sight of breasts without popping a hard one, so you choose to instead get offended for females over a design who's LEAST of problems is that it has fucking cleavage?
I thought you had to be an adult to get on this site the hell is this?
I'm going to completely going to ignore the discussion at hand and go off on a random tangent.
They should give her heart and cat shaped particle effects when she hits people for maximum moe.
There's "imperfect" idols too. Stuff like chubby girls, heavily crooked teeth, etc.
But models of beauty aren't inherently sexual. In that sense idols aren't much different from western celebrities.
I'm going to completely going to ignore the discussion at hand and go off on a random tangent.
They should give her heart and cat shaped particle effects when she hits people for maximum moe.
I'm sure we'll have some form of heart particle customization like older games.I'm going to completely going to ignore the discussion at hand and go off on a random tangent.
They should give her heart and cat shaped particle effects when she hits people for maximum moe.
also sorry for double posting but this post really bothers me.Please explain this to me then. Why all girls are so beautiful? Why all of them have characteristics that push most men's "buttons"? They have perfect bodies, perfect breasts and perfect, beautiful faces. They also act sexy. They show off all these characteristics using revealing clothing, tiny skirts and sexy poses (mixed with cute, childish ones).
So if this whole "idol" thing isn't about sex then where are the ugly ones? Where are the fat ones? where are the ones wearing less revealing clothing? And if they don't want to have anything with sex then why are they doing their best to be as sexy and provocative as possible?
Yes, its contradictory alright. Very contradictory.
I'm sure we'll have some form of heart particle customization like older games.
I wish i was as innocent and naive as you but i'm not. This character is about a sexual thing. Now, we can always ignore it and enjoy the game. That's also an option.
I never, ever, said in any of my posts that we should not be allowed to sex related things. Please read a few older posts in the discussion to have some context.also sorry for double posting but this post really bothers me.
You do know the real world has shit like strip clubs and hookers right? America has Idoling jobs too who's jobs are to be attractive in outfits for magezine covers and such.
Even if it IS about sex, so? People aren't allowed to be into sex related things now? It's called being a human man. No, I don't find fat or ugly people physically attractive, like myself (which is why I'm trying to loose that weight to be, ya know, healthy looking) am I satan now? No, cause that doesn't mean I hate all fat people or some shit. I AM fat, so of course I know that doesn't dictate their persona.
Not changing but for example in T6 or TT2 you could add japanese kana SFX to your moves and I think there were some heart stuff but I'm not sure anymore.Dunno if I ever seen anything that changed hit effects though. Some heart aura thing might exist though I can see.
The issue is not that it's "just some characters". It lowers the value of the whole game because it shows that devs don't take us seriously anymore. I'm not a Tekken player (so maybe i don't know better about its fans, although i remember the game being more serious) but if such character designs entered my favorite games, i would stop buying them because i don't like it when developers of the games i buy think i'm some kind of a sex thirsty 15 year old boy who only wants to fap at any given time/opportunity. I'm way past that.
Now you are going to say "as an adult you can just ignore it. You are above it, it shouldn't affect you". To which i can agree, but this is a fighting game. It means that you are going to interact with these characters more often than you can stand it. People will select them in online matches and you will have to fight them during one player mode, etc. Sure, i can ignore all this but for how long? It will annoy me at some point, i don't have that much patience.
Dunno if I ever seen anything that changed hit effects though. Some heart aura thing might exist though I can see.
Except that i never said that cute things are sexual. Another person putting things i never said into my mouth.If you see everything cute or any child characters immediately as sexual objects, regardless of whether you're into that or not, you should probably spend less time on the internet and think some things through, because that's not a healthy mindset to have.
Not changing but for example in T6 or TT2 you could add japanese kana SFX to your moves and I think there were some heart stuff but I'm not sure anymore.
Nah I know, but I meant specifically Hearts.That's been a thing since 6.
Except that i never said that cute things are sexual. Another person putting things i never said into my mouth.
I don't have a problem with cute, little girls in my games. I have a problem with cute little girls with skimpy skirts acting like grown up women in strip clubs. In my games. Because otherwise, i wouldn't care about them.
I only answered to your particular argument about cute girls since you quoted me.And that doesn't even apply here, since she appears to be as grown up as every other Tekken girl.
Except that i never said that cute things are sexual. Another person putting things i never said into my mouth.
I don't have a problem with cute, little girls in my games (although they tend to be somewhat annoying most of the time). I have a problem with cute little girls with skimpy skirts acting like grown up women in strip clubs. In my games. Because otherwise, i wouldn't care about them.
No but i used to somewhat like JRPGs. You know, before the whole moe, waifu, lolicon, kawai shit got mainstream.I thought you didn't play Tekken?
also sorry for double posting but this post really bothers me.
You do know the real world has shit like strip clubs and hookers right? America has Idoling jobs too who's jobs are to be attractive in outfits for magezine covers and such.
Even if it IS about sex, so? People aren't allowed to be into sex related things now? It's called being a human man. No, I don't find fat or ugly people physically attractive, like myself (which is why I'm trying to loose that weight to be, ya know, healthy looking) am I satan now? No, cause that doesn't mean I hate all fat people or some shit. I AM fat, so of course I know that doesn't dictate their persona.
"Diversity is only good when it caters to my taste"
No but i used to somewhat like JRPGs. You know, before the whole moe, wifu, lolicon, kawai shit got mainstream.
"Diversity is only good when it caters to my taste"
Yeah, whatever it's calledWifu?
No but i used to somewhat like JRPGs. You know, before the whole moe, wifu, lolicon, kawai shit got mainstream.
"Diversity is only good when it caters to my taste"
Yeah, whatever it's called
Son? What are you, 60?Waifu, son. And that stuff has always been there. Just that now days there is better graphics.
Ι don't remember that on the NES. All i remember was an epic adventure with a warrior, a wizard a red mage, a black belt and some others.That's shit's been there since the beginning. I guess I'm just not understanding why you care so much about this if you don't care about playing these games.
Son? What are you, 60?
Those are different because reasons.People that can grow bat wings and shoot lasers out of their eyes are okay...
And a robot girl with chainsaw arms and wings is okay...
And a fat acrobatic martial artist guy is okay...
And an ancient alien bio-weapon worshiped by an old society as a war god is okay...
And two bears who were taught martial arts by their owners are okay...
And a cyborg ninja is okay...
And a family of boxing kangaroos is okay...
But not an Japanese idol.
Tekken is very serious.
Of course he's trolling. Would be extra work to make the game different for one region and would also mean that online play would be restricted between regions.
Oh no doubt he's trolling.
It would be ridiculous to remove one character out of a possibly 40+ roster just because a few players are moaning. Fighting game rosters would constantly be neutered if that were the case.