The Flash |OT| Gotta Go Fast - Tuesdays 8/7c
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Part of me wonders whether the Flash writers take their emotional scenes and run them through a computer programmed to output the most cheesy dialogue possible. The only thing that made that final Barry/Joe scene work was Jesse L. Martin.
The episode was okay, I guess but I was expecting a lot more from a mid-season finale. It was too loaded with Iris drama and drama in general. How many tearful scenes were in this episode, exactly? I'm also disappointed that they took the easy way out with the whole Wells/Reverse Flash reveal, even if they're complicating it with time travel.
(Fire dude was kinda cool, I'll admit.)
The episode was okay, I guess but I was expecting a lot more from a mid-season finale. It was too loaded with Iris drama and drama in general. How many tearful scenes were in this episode, exactly? I'm also disappointed that they took the easy way out with the whole Wells/Reverse Flash reveal, even if they're complicating it with time travel.
(Fire dude was kinda cool, I'll admit.)
Or present wells is also from the future... that way it makes that paradox make sense (cant require reverse flash getting his abilities with the help of the reverse flash)
So i assume he acquires his ability from barry at one point... the tachyon device is to make his abilities better than the flash
serenewarfare
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Well they have already changed that, so they will most certainly nerf him.
I don't know, Dark Archer absolutely stomped Oliver the first time they fought. And the second time. He was the first legitimate threat. But the personal element of their relationship wasn't revealed until the second to last episode of season one while the Flash had it from the pilot.
Wells = Hunter Zolomon = Reverse Flash
Eddie = Eobard Thawne = Zoom (Eventually)
Is my guess. I also figure Eddie won't take the Professor part of the name because it just wouldn't make much sense.
Well, there were two versions of the Zoom character. The second one had this obsession with making heroes "better" by making them experience tragedy and thus becoming stronger from the incident. So they could be going with that.
I could actually have still bought Wells wasn't RF if it weren't for that last line in the voice. He could have just been continuing to ensure things happen by making sure that suit is ready.
MHWilliams
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Depending on which version of Zoom they're using. Second Zoom wanted The Flash (Wally West) to be a better hero.
I'm of the mindset that Wells is trying to prevent his wife's death, but he can only go back so far without the Tachyon device and Barry's powers.
In addition, I'm still going with my original theory. Wells is Eobard Thawne, Eddie's descendant. The name "Harrison Wells" is probably taken from H.G. Wells, who wrote the Time Machine.
Discotheque
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yeah it's likely the key to the time-travelling.
Yes
fallengorn
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Awesome finale. I squealed like a girl when Wells pulled out the ring.
Yeah. It was an inside job.
Some speculation for the future
Yeah. It was an inside job.
Some speculation for the future
Once Wells is found out, if there's even a team left, Cisco and Caitlin are going to jump ship to Mercury Labs... or Mercury buys what remains of STAR Labs.
Don't need to spoiler tag predictions man. I'm not sure about that just because STAR Labs is a pretty prominent DC icon. And it looks like a pricey set.
The team could be come something very different over time. Especially with Firestorm and Caitlin's potential future. Cisco's too cheese to ever become Vibe at least.
MHWilliams
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Equal and opposite. So yes.
Discotheque
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i feel like arrow was these writers' testing ground to make flash as good as it is now.
it took arrow almost a full season to get this kind of pacing to it's episodes and they've learnt from that which is why flash started firing on all cylinders since the pilot. and honestly joe west is the best authority figure character in either show imo.
gonna be devastated if they kill him.
it took arrow almost a full season to get this kind of pacing to it's episodes and they've learnt from that which is why flash started firing on all cylinders since the pilot. and honestly joe west is the best authority figure character in either show imo.
gonna be devastated if they kill him.
WrenchNinja
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I'm betting Max Mercury is actually the owner of Mercury Labs and is a speedster too and will be Barry's next mentor figure and will eventually buy STAR labs. And we'll probably get Jay Garrick next season as well.
the_firewithin
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Reverse has to be eddie. It seemed like there was a lot emphasis on him when they had him trapped
Discotheque
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i doubt it, he probably went back home to his timeline. or maybe he's lost in time since the pilot ended with harrison looking at that newspaper saying flash is missing.
from sepinwall:
true. that scene was the best of the show for me. makes you really despise reverse flash, he's messed the Allens up.
Wow, this episode was friggin' awesome! After Reverse Flash spared Eddie, I was 100% sure that Reverse Flash was Eddie from the future, but then that last scene. Still, I do think that Eddie will become an evil speedster at some point. Wells's knowledge of the future probably knew of that so he decided to spare Eddie.
Cornballer
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Yeah, The Flash greatly benefitted from Arrow's growing pains, and even while it has some of its own... most were quickly done away with (The whole Irish serving no purpose for like first 2-3 eps for example)
I also think it helps that they havepowers... andpowers just look cool
evil solrac v3.0
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hey now, the Irish people have a long and proud tradition you know.
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That fight though.
I Thought doctor Wells was gonna be the Reversed Flash. I'm glad it wasn't him
fake edit: whelp 2 Reverse Flash so assumption was right
Who didn't see that coming? Ronnie amnesia
Here's my series prediction
Flash fight Firestorm then helps him remember. Kaitlyn helps him recover. The two falls in love. Firestorm becomes part of Team Flash.
I Thought doctor Wells was gonna be the Reversed Flash. I'm glad it wasn't him
fake edit: whelp 2 Reverse Flash so assumption was right
Who didn't see that coming? Ronnie amnesia
Here's my series prediction
Flash fight Firestorm then helps him remember. Kaitlyn helps him recover. The two falls in love. Firestorm becomes part of Team Flash.
WrenchNinja
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I don't think it's actually amnesia.
the_firewithin
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Wasn't expecting firestorm to fly already
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He chose not to remember
fallengorn
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Being a hobo gives him a lot of time to figure out his powers.
WrenchNinja
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No, I mean Firestorm''s whole deal is two minds in one body. It might have been someone else in the cockpit. But I don't know, they could be doing it differently cause Ronnie is a dumbass in the comics.
Karak
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Jesse L. Martin makes every episode good. That dude is a damn good actor. The rest was sort of boring to me but had some good moments. Still had too many people randomly becoming superheroes, already superheroes, once superheroes, or blah blah blah. It leaves so little time to develop a real character other than. Acronyms and funny names. However that does leave it open for fun shallow action and it excels at the braindead stuff.
Or he has...let's just call it multiple personality disorder.
I don't know. Show isn't called Flash and his Super Friends or Flash and Firestorm. I don't think he'll be a regular on the show.
Flash might have been my favorite comic from when I was a kid. I think I had an almost complete run of them from Flash #1 post-crisis to when I stopped reading comics.
From what I remember from flash comics as a kid:
From what I remember from flash comics as a kid:
Eddie Thawn is a timetraveler that beceomes the reverse flash. He kills Iris and Barry kills him, leaves the Justice League because he commited murder and shortly there after dies in Crisis being replaced by Wally West, kid flash.
Why not? Flash can still be the center of attention. Arrow isn't called "The Green Arrow, Black Canary & Arsenal feat. The Black Driver and Introducing Emily Bett Rickards as Felicity 'Oracle' Smoak Smile Time Variety Hour", but they still manage to make it work. They're already mined three other Firestorm characters within 9 episodes too.
It's gonna suck when they kill him off at the end of the season to really drive home the emotional punch...
I thought Wells' cadence was very obvious in Reverse-Flash's dialogue to Barry so I'm glad they didn't drag that out. Really good ep.
Now the true mystery remains: what did Eddie actually get Iris for Christmas? I know that guy did not get his one-year girlfriend a key he had copied in a basement shop for four dollars.
Now the true mystery remains: what did Eddie actually get Iris for Christmas? I know that guy did not get his one-year girlfriend a key he had copied in a basement shop for four dollars.
calling it, the next thing that Eddie gives Iris in a little box isn't a engagement ring, it'll be a
Reverse Flash ring
the_firewithin
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That will be the animated show title
PHOENIXZERO
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Motherf...
They did a decent job with the fake out those sumbitches or maybe I should say we did a good job faking ourselves out with all that time we spent speculating that Wells wasn't Zoom and then they tease and then surprise! Do wonder where they'll take Ronnie/Firestorm. When Barry confessed to Iris I was half hoping he'd drop the other bomb on her but that might've been too much and caused her head to explode. Awkwaaaaard.
So, Iris's mom is dead, we don't know how yet though but what if her death was RF/Zoom related too and prevented Iris's brother and in turn Barry from being born? Granted the brother ought to be older than Iris, hmm... I still think this season or somewhere next season is going to have some major time travel fuckery. Regardless of Arrow or if Supergirl gets included in this universe.
42 days (or 41 depending on time zone) until another new episode. After Arrow tomorrow it might be time to try and see if I can freeze myself until January 20th... If it goes wrong and I don't get thawed out until decades later well I'm cool with that, just means I won't have to wait for new episodes.
They did a decent job with the fake out those sumbitches or maybe I should say we did a good job faking ourselves out with all that time we spent speculating that Wells wasn't Zoom and then they tease and then surprise! Do wonder where they'll take Ronnie/Firestorm. When Barry confessed to Iris I was half hoping he'd drop the other bomb on her but that might've been too much and caused her head to explode. Awkwaaaaard.
So, Iris's mom is dead, we don't know how yet though but what if her death was RF/Zoom related too and prevented Iris's brother and in turn Barry from being born? Granted the brother ought to be older than Iris, hmm... I still think this season or somewhere next season is going to have some major time travel fuckery. Regardless of Arrow or if Supergirl gets included in this universe.
42 days (or 41 depending on time zone) until another new episode. After Arrow tomorrow it might be time to try and see if I can freeze myself until January 20th... If it goes wrong and I don't get thawed out until decades later well I'm cool with that, just means I won't have to wait for new episodes.
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Wiktor
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God..those superpowered duels...
Altougj it's funny, because they looked so cool, but from their perspective they propably spend hour jogging through a city
And Wells..you damn evil bastard. Loved how scary the Reverse Flash was.
Also...all the confessions, to Iris and Eddie. Good to see writers getting this out so early instead of prolinging it.
Altougj it's funny, because they looked so cool, but from their perspective they propably spend hour jogging through a city
And Wells..you damn evil bastard. Loved how scary the Reverse Flash was.
Also...all the confessions, to Iris and Eddie. Good to see writers getting this out so early instead of prolinging it.
NotTheGuyYouKill
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The Flash': Andy Mientus Says Gay Villain Pied Piper is a Huge Step Forward
The first gay AND deaf supervillain. CW breaking barriers errywhere.
The first gay AND deaf supervillain. CW breaking barriers errywhere.
Who said Reverse-Flash was moving at peak speed? He just has to move faster than Barry.
Plus wasn't the whole point of the tachyons in this ep to help him surpass the speed of light?
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